I can agree "that God is "subject to 'natural law", but only in the sense that He has created those laws and needs to maintain the integrity to obey the same rules that He has created. If He did not honor His word or His law He would cease to be God.
George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Subject to natural law Stephen Beecroft wrote: > -John- > > It is my understanding of Mormon doctrine that the laws by which > > Heavenly Father became and exalted being are coeternal with him. > > They are uncreate. And it was by obedience to these laws that > > he because God. > > My understanding follows Jim's quotation of Joseph Smith's teachings and > of the scriptures; that God *instituted laws* among us. Whether those > laws were pre-existent or not seems of little import. Remember, Marc's > comment was that God is "subject to 'natural law'". This is demonstrably > untrue; God is above nature, has created nature, and has instituted her > laws. > It's not demonstrably untrue; I went on to explain that the term had two meanings, and quoted James E. Talmage and Joseph Fielding Smith to illustrate. > > He could, for example, "travel faster than > light", an event that doesn't even have a well-defined meaning to us. > That's my point about telestial law. As Pres. Smith said, he has access to laws we don't understand. But that doesn't make them any less laws. -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland "Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lustre, and many more people see than weigh." - Lord Chesterfield Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the author's employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================
