Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
we don't really want to ship all of zope.app with Zope 2. zope.app is
supposed to be the Zope 3 application server. It shouldn't be included
in Zope 2, especially since it requires twisted and such.
I'm worried about this approach, as it stops the Five project from
exposing more Zope 3 functionality into Zope 2 directly, instead having
to wait for a new release of Zope 2 that includes the missing bits.
That's why I want to make sure that we include as much of zope.app in
Zope 2. But I'm just one man so I tried to focus on current usage. I'm
sure we all want to use as much as possible from Zope 3 in our Zope 2
projects in the future, but we have to draw the line for this release.
The freeze is 3 weeks away.
I'm aware that we might not get it all done for Zope 2.10. That's ok, we
can phase out Zope 2's zope.app usage over a longer time.
Okay, that's fine, as long as we're clear that zope.app will still be
part of Zope 2.10.
I'd therefore recommend an approach that includes as much of zope.app
into Zope 2 as is possible, while leaving out the obvious bits that
shouldn't be there, like Twisted.
Then what's the point of zope.app at all? You're almost sounding like
you want to move everything in zope.* to zope.app.
Sorry, I was unclear. zope.app getting smaller good. Leaving zope.app
out of Zope 2 in the next Zope 2 release, bad. There's a lot of stuff in
zope.app that a lot of projects are using, and we may break stuff
significantly if code is suddenly not there anymore.
[snip arguing against putting lots of stuff in zope.app]
I'm not arguing in favor of zope.app, I'm just arguing in favor of
keeping zope.app included into Zope 2 releases for the time being, until
we're a lot further with this process of moving things out of zope.app.
Regards,
Martijn
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