> YOU MUST NOT reach out to ANYONE on behalf of the Apache Software > Foundation without coordinating with M&P. Without their approval, you > are NOT authorized to speak on behalf of the ASF, or put yourself in a > position where it appears that you are doing so.
For those of us who don’t have access to the internal deliberations on this topic can you offer any update? Is outreach something membership or M&P is still interested in pursuing with regards to understanding the impact of their brand? If so, what kind of outreach are they envisioning? Gunalchéesh, Walter On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 4:36 AM <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 14:56 -0400, me wrote: > > This is more or less in line with what I think we’ve anticipated. I > > really appreciate you providing the info. > > > > That said… to outreach or not to outreach… that is the question. > > So ... I have been staying out of this conversation rather > intentionally for a number of reasons, but I feel I must speak up here. > > YOU MUST NOT reach out to ANYONE on behalf of the Apache Software > Foundation without coordinating with M&P. Without their approval, you > are NOT authorized to speak on behalf of the ASF, or put yourself in a > position where it appears that you are doing so. > > > Please forgive if I am coming across stronger than warranted here, but > this is a line that you MUST NOT cross without the approval of M&P. > > Thanks. > > --Rich, with Board of Directors hat on. > > > > > > I’m going to try to remain impartial in order to facilitate. (i.e. > > this isn’t my opinion, I’m just trying to help move things forward). > > > > The scenario w/ Jeep is the most synonymous to Apache. (We are named > > for a tribe, rather than a synonymous term or epithet). I’m side > > stepping the logo for the moment. > > > > The last words I could find on the subject (w/ a brief scan) were > > March of 2021 > > > > - Chief Hoskins of the Cherokee Nation did request a name change from > > Jeep. > > - Jeep opened up talks, but they didn’t comply. > > > > > > > > > > From: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > Reply: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47 > > To: me <m...@emangini.com> > > Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: A way to keep the name > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me <m...@emangini.com> wrote: > > > > > > Roman, welcome to the party! > > > > LOL! Thanks ;-) > > > > > I think the scope of the risk (in terms of “what”) is fairly well > > > understood. Did you also estimate the probability of the risks? > > > (i.e. likelihood?) > > > > IIRC mostly the likelihood. > > > > > Do you mind sharing what the results were of the previous > > > assessment? > > > > It was deemed to be low: primarily based on our historic use of the > > name (we have been pretty respectful with it) and the fact that > > whoever brings the lawsuit will have to have a standing. > > > > Thanks, > > Roman. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
