On 8/2/2012 4:16 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
You seem to have omitted the bit about how he was subject to a relentless
campaign of vicious homophobic abuse.
Or, indeed, ArbCom's complete failure to understand the importance of how such abuse
and bullying occurs. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SilkTork&diff=498427414&oldid=498418358
Given the numerous instance of female editors I've spoken to who have been the
subject of painful stalking incidents, and the ongoing risk to women and other
minority groups on-wiki, I'd suggest ArbCom's failure to understand the nature
of such harassment ought to be rather concerning...
This is not to excuse what Fae has done. Two wrongs don't make a right. But
let's not pretend that there's not another side to this sad tale.
Your link did not include examples of actual harassment, though I'm sure
they exist. It also still is not clear to me if he ONLY post gay
bondage photos. And if went beyond being educational and usable for
articles to just being prurient.
Obviously, if every time he lashed out it was in response to harassment,
that would be understandable - On the other hand, it also would show
that wikipedia's ways of dealing with harassment were not too good.
Now in the case I cited where I got blocked my asking an untoward
question came after I was harassed as an "antisemite" for a couple weeks
for trying to uphold policy on an Israel-Palestine related article. (A
couple of obvious males who actually used bigoted sounding language were
ignored!) So I lashed out inappropriately for asking about an
individual's sexual attitudes towards women (I also linked my question
to a women's group on offsite wikia which I naively thought was part of
Wikipedia, but that was only a minor reason for the block).
The important thing was that the initial block also was six months and
the BrouHaHa was that I was unfairly harassed on the article leading to
my losing it. After the protests, the block was reduced to a week.
After there was such a long thread about it at ANI, the individuals who
had been harassing me largely DID stop using those kinds of attacks and
stuck to policy issues in future debates on that and other articles. So
I do think a good airing of harassment issues on WP:Wikiquette or WP:ANI
with the relevant parties can help. Of course, blocking harassers until
they stop would help too.
Anyway, always looking for double standards, I suspect that if I had
reacted snottily to people every time I was harassed and hounded (more
than a hundred death threats, FYI), I'd have been blocked for six months
way before whatever it was that got User:Fae blocked. This of course
probably related to the fact that he is a powerful male and (in the deep
recesses of the minds of too many but *not* all males) I'm just some
erzatz female... So to me that's the relevance to this list.
Frankly I don't feel like reading the whole case right now, but here it
is and porn only mentioned once, bondage not at all; civility and other
rules the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/F%C3%A6
CM in DC
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