I often help out at en-help. Often, people who are new at IRC need to be
told where to type. I would think this would qualify as "failing hard".

From,
Emily


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That proposal could be considered in the long term, but right now we have
> plenty of people who seek and get help on IRC, and we can make incremental
> improvements to their experience faster than we can build a new tool from
> scratch. Few newbies fail hard at IRC. The basics are similar to texting
> and private instant messaging software. Let's improve the newbie user
> experience.
>
> Pine
> On Aug 11, 2014 1:48 PM, "Nathan" <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Newbies are going to fail hard at IRC. Pretty much all of the questions
>> Seb
>> poses for a built-in newbie chat still exist with a built-in Freenode
>> interface, with the addition of a complicated and often difficult (not to
>> mention culturally... unique) environment. Much better to think along the
>> lines of the Teahouse, but live. You can jump into a chat queue, and
>> people
>> who want to help chat with you, and you can close the chat whenever you
>> want, and you can't contact people outside of the queue using chat.
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