The Commons approach isn’t likely to work. Besides sharing several PMC members, 
it already deprecated Commons Logging in favor of Log4j2 as a logging API.

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Matt Sicker

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 12:59, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Have the initial committers for this effort been identified?
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Vladimir Sitnikov 
>> <sitnikov.vladi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Matt>Attaching patches to Jira is exactly how v1 was developed back in the
>> day. V2 did it for some time as well before migrating to git
>> 
>> Matt, let us please refrain from off-topic discussions here? (at the end of
>> the day, this is "Looking for a champion" thread)
> 
> IMO - this effort would not benefit from Incubation. Incubation will slow 
> down this effort as graduation requirements won’t fit a small and compact 
> community that has in mind a singular effort.
> 
> Alternatives ways to organize this:
> 
> (1) Get at least 3 Apache Members together (IPMC members are almost all 
> Apache Members) and make a Board Resolution to form a new PMC. Fork the 
> resources, or Logging turns them over.
> 
> (2) Work within the Logging PMC
> 
> (3) Ask the Commons PMC if they would take back Log4J 1.x.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> If you have objections or comments regarding LOG4J2-3272, would you please
>> comment there?
>> (I truly do not understand why is it important to know how v1 or v2
>> accepted fixes back in the days)
>> 
>> Vladimir
> 
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