On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:44 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> d) What you can;t do is have it both ways. Traditional double entry > >> bookkeeping allows only one tree structure for the CoA. To get it > >> different in different reports you would have to BOTH set up the CoA > >> correctly AND select just certain accounts for the report. > > Of course you can by running the report filtered for transactions with or > > without tag(s). (It is an unfortunate term because most searches will > find > > the term used in the context of computer code rather than filtering > > transactions for reports.) > > I don't think you are picturing what I meant by both ways. > > Say doing organizational reporting, and this organization (among its > other activities) conducts several "events" every year. naturally the > BoD will want to see accounting by event (what were the expenses and > revenues for THIS event; how much did it cost us to put on the event or > how much did we make, compare the separate event report with those of > prior years, how about all events together (will come back to that). > > One of the expenses associated with each event would be for printing > fliers, postage for mailing, etc. (things that can be considered > "printing and postage") so under each event, such an account. BUT > "printing and postage" is a line item on the 990/990EZ and also going to > have to report the total for this activity sort WITHOUT printing and > postage since that's a separate line item. > > So -- if the CoA structured correctly will be able to produce reports. > > a) For each event, P&L (select just the accounts of that event) > > b) The totals for all events NOT including the "printing and postage" > expense (again, by selecting the accounts to include) > > c) Printing and postage total for the organization (again selecting all > the "printing and postage" accounts -- note that some of these will be > other than as an expense of some event) > > You aren't thinking of all the things the Treasurer of an org is going > to be wanting from the books. ONE set of books, able to produce reports > for various purposes, at different levels of detail. For example, the > BoD might want to see the total for "independent contractors" but not > how much paid to each let alone how much of what was paid to each was > "compensation" and how much "reimbursement of expenses" (so whether a > 1099-MISC will be needed to be filed to whom and if so, for how much) > > That's why I am stressing "get the CoA" right so you can get all that > you need out of it. You can always reduce the amount of detail in > reports, specialize reports, etc. later but only if captured in the > first place. And keep in mind that you do not necessarily have to do all > the reduction of detail, specialization, etc. INSIDE gnucash. You can > also export reports and then do the rest of it using your favorite > editor << that's how I was told to do it by a lawyer/accountant on one > of the BODs -- he said that's how any of us accountants would do it -- > and mind, as a "pro" I could have coded custom reports ->> > > Michael D Novack > If the events are fixed, such as "Memorial Day Celebration" and "Independence Celebration", you could make an expense category and then have sub-categories for it. I assume that you can run P&L on one set of categories. Would that work? You'd have similar sub-categories. I'm pretty sure you could get a breakdown for the events, but if you also want a total (for example) "postage" from each category, I'm not sure how to do that, especially if you want all the sub-categories summarized. Perhaps exporting to a spreadsheet and creating a pivot table? (or something along those lines?) -- _________________________________ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.