Hi, For dialer was no issue with Actcom. I have been their faithful customer for many years now, until I wanted to switch from cables to ADSL. When I called I have been told it requires cancellation of current program and sighing up to other. That's ok, but since I use p2p and d/l at least 20gb/month I have to pay 120 nis/month. That was not ok, and Netvision got me a nice deal of 35nis/month and no ridiculous demands on bandwidth.
Actcom has lost customer and I have lost faith in the company I used to appreciate so much for their service and support. Be aware. Alon. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of ik > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 6:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Linux-IL > Subject: Re: Actcom without a dailer costs more > > Hi, > > I myself uses cables, but dialers are a hoax (at least for customers). In > ADSL > instead of making the modem/router of ADSL to speak ADSL and Ethernet, it > speaks only ADSL, and the dialer make the talking of ADSL and Ethernet for > you. > > In cables, it seems that without a dialer, the cables company controls > your > connection, and with one, the ISP control it. > > I myself can not see or understand any reason why as a customer I need to > be > interested that the ISP have any issues with the cables companies. He > chooses > to support this technology, and it's the ISP problem only. I do not need > any > dialer and I do not need to control this type of thing. ADSL and cables > can > be 100% LAN for customers if they do not need any dialer. Just think about > all the lack of disconnections that users will "experience" without any > dialer for example. > > So again, as a customer, for me a dialer is a hoax that only make things > complicated without any real need, and if I need to use a dialer, I do not > think that I'll use Actcom anymore specially after reading other comments > here. > > Ido > > On Wednesday 21 September 2005 23:30, Aaron wrote: > > Hi, > > I had this happen as far as price was concerned. I just compared the > > price others were getting for the same or more service and threatened to > > switch to the other company and I got a better price. > > > > The dialer issue I never even fought though, and you are right the > > dailer is a pain, I had no idea there was a choice to connect without a > > dialer. Are you talking adsl or cable? > > > > Aaron > > On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:07 +0300, Ido Kanner wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > Recently I updated my 4 years old account in Actcom (this is my 4th > year). > > > After watching the price of the account in my office, I found out that > I > pay a > > > lot more for a lot less. That is I pay 760 NIS for 750 without a > dialer, > while > > > at work we pay a lot less for a faster connection. > > > > > > BTW I was told that if I'll move to a dialer, it will cost me 200 NIS > less !!! > > > > > > After a long talk with the finance, I found out that the reason for > that > is > > > that I do not use a dailer, and the CO of Actcom decided that users > without a > > > dialer should pay more, alto as most of you know, the infurstracture > and > the > > > technical stuff for Radius and other servers that are working in the > background > > > requires a lot more work (not to mention the support team that need to > handle > > > very stupid issues such as passowrd lost, incurrect login issues etc) > ... > > > > > > The finance person also mentioned that I need to pay more, because a > dialer > > > gives them (Actcom) the ability to monitor connections. But on LAN > (you > all know > > > that cables connection is a LAN) you can monitor activities as well, > and > not to > > > mention that a dialer and the rest of the servers that you pass along > the > way > > > makes the connection slower. > > > > > > Now don't get me wrong, I really like Actcom, and the fact that they > support our > > > community is a hugh Plus for me, and thats even before I mention their > very good > > > tech and Linux support etc.. > > > > > > But I do not wish to have a dialer, And I do not like the fact that > the > user > > > should handle PPP connections for such thing. ADSL btw also does not > really > > > requires user intervention (L2TP is the protocol that ADSL talks, and > > > theoretically the ADSL router should make the converting between > Ethernet > and > > > ADSL on it's own). > > > > > > BTW If they will not give a better price, I don't think that I will > continue > > > working with them next year ... > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > Ido > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================= > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -- > Artificial Intelligence: Making computers behave like they do in the > movies. > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
