Patrick: I've run the Umtanum (650x55) in endurance casing, and have pals I
ride with regularly on the full range basically - 650x42, 650x48, and
700x38 but all on the endurance casing. I plan to try the Extralight
version next, but honestly the Endurance doesn't feel stiff nor heavy.
Every one of my riding pals who've taken the plunge have been singing their
praises loud and far, and seemingly everyone I ride with is going to them
now as a result.

I will agree that they are not particularly quiet on the road, even the
claimed noise-cancelling models. They're not nearly as quiet as a Gravel
King SK. I will say though that they have a pleasant enough tone, and that
noise doesn't translate to slowness at all - coming to realize this is
critical to enjoying them fully. Much like we're sort of pre-programmed to
believe that the feedback of skinny tires translates to speed, even though
we know better now, the same is true of the buzz from knobby tires. Thanks
to Strava I can confidently say that I'm not appreciably slower on the RH
knobbies, though if I don't need them I'd prefer the silence of the slicks.


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 7:46 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jason: Which RH knobbies, pray? I just scored a near-new, Normal Casing
> pair of 622X48 (will be at least 50 on my rims) Oracle Ridges for $100
> shipped, and Fat Tire Cycles will set them up tubeless on the new Velocity
> Blunt SS wheelset for a dirt-biased wheelset for the dirt road Matthews.
> The Soma Supple Vitesse SLs will remain on the original wheelset, for
> pavement-biased riding but capable of shallower sand. But if Oracle Ridges
> roll as well as RH claims for their knobbies, I may not have needed a
> second wheelset ...
>
> Since my Kelpie fenders (a) were sized and sited for 60s, and so have at
> least an inch of clearance over 50s, and (b) are, sheet metal and stays, at
> least 50% thicker than your puny Honjos and Berthouds and VOs, I am going
> to risk Oracles and fenders.
>
> Patrick Moore, who sped home from church just now on the very fast and
> lively Nachess Pass EL wheelset on the other Matthews.
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:32 PM Jason Fuller <jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ... I am going to sow the seed now that the gravel & travel platy should
>> run RH knobbies if no fenders - they are remarkably quick on pavement and a
>> lifesaver on gravel and dirt. I run them on my Wombat which I ride on some
>> challenging terrain and I've never felt the tires were a limiting factor
>> yet!
>>
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