On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 8:13 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 11:43:07 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On 20 February 2024 17:28:31 GMT, Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 1:43:27 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >The number of dependencies has grown to the point it has gotten too hard > to > >maintain, > > > >No. It's easier than it has ever been in the past because of our improved > >tooling. > > You keep adding more dependencies to justify ever growing tooling, it > seems. > > > No, Dima, that's absurd. > > I have been doing the vast majority of this maintenance work in the past 4 > years, and I have been improving the tooling to reduce the workload > associated with it -- and to make it more accessible to other contributors. > testing and reviewing this endless stream of updates and new packages, etc. is also work, a lot. And you also are not shy in outsourcing your "vast majority" either. E.g. I got totally fed up with this at this point: https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36777 - where you kindly invited me to add few hundred text files by hand, copy-pasting from the repology repo - all thanks to your truly wonderful labour-reducing tooling... Wondeful tooling - homo sapience with vi and mouse - very flexible, reliable. I repeat: we don't need the guts of Jupyterlab etc in Sage repo, full stop - in fact in this case just mentioned #36777 would be not needed. > Source: > echo " commit | date | author | subject"; echo " -- | -- | -- | --"; git > --no-pager log --since 2020 --no-merges --format=" %h | %as | %<(24)%aN | > %s" build/pkgs/*/{package-version.txt,spkg-*.in,patches} > > Only you know what it does and how to use it. > > > It's well-documented in our Developer Guide ( > https://deploy-livedoc--sagemath.netlify.app/html/en/developer/packaging > ). > > I strongly encourage others to read it -- and welcome requests for > improvements and PRs -- but I certainly can't force anyone to read it. > > What if we just don't want it? > > > Who is "we"? > You'll know when we announce a fork. :-) > > I certainly don't care about the guts of Jupyterlab and Sphinx, I just > want to use them. > > > That's OK. That's what most users and developers do. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3cf3e70e-91c6-43f0-bc2a-bb633acc9b55n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3cf3e70e-91c6-43f0-bc2a-bb633acc9b55n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq2i0HjgLfGt4qbuC7N-ayUkMJO0KSLOU-mbG0xWr0%3D2Eg%40mail.gmail.com.
