Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [X] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) Better late than never... (Me, I mean!) -- Martin Cooper We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all, there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why I think this is a beta release. Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples work, and you could start using it in a development environment without problems. That is exactly my definition of beta as well. -- Martin Cooper Don Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/28/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all, there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why I think this is a beta release. I added a Struts Action 1 filter to list all the open bugs against SAF1, which comes up with thirty issues. I agree that not all of these need to be handled by the 1.3.2 release plan, but it would be help to itemize the open tickets, so that we know what is not being handled and why. Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples work, and you could start using it in a development environment without problems. To me, a Beta means that if it works for more people, we could upgrade it to GA. No, that is a release candidate. Our Test Build is always a release candidate, in effect, because since we don't vote until after it's built, there is always a possibility that it could become GA. (Not counting the cases where we know up front that it's not good enough, of course.) -- Martin Cooper The JIRA issues aside, I could never vote this release to GA since some of the documentation is already obsolete. But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto a release :) Don Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
+1 Beta -- Me too! -- James Mitchell On May 3, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [X] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) Better late than never... (Me, I mean!) -- Martin Cooper We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Just downloaded, unpacked and started: 1. I wanted to report an issue, but Bugzilla does not have 1.3.2 in the Version listbox, so this will be the first issue :-) 2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the Java source code of examples. The links refer to source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java subdirectory. This results in exception like this: javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: No resource /WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/SimpleActionForm.java available in this application I would file issue (2) directly to Bugzilla, if version 1.3.2 was available to select. Oops, actually I would not. Cannot find Struts under product names when creating a new bug. Is it just me, or am I supposed to use JIRA for SAF1 as well? Could not find the link to JIRA on wiki page. Michael. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I supposed to use JIRA for SAF1 as well? Could not find the link to JIRA on wiki page. Oops, should have clicked the link for outstanding bugs :-) Still, not very clear how to get to JIRA. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the Java source code of examples. The links refer to source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java subdirectory. I see you've found JIRA already, but it's here: http://issues.apache.org/struts Where were you looking, so we can add/fix the links to JIRA for 1.3.3? In addition to fixing the problem you reported, that example app needs to be repackaged. It looks strange in the (as yet unpublished) aggregated Javadoc to have an 'examples' package above all the org.apache.struts code. Thanks, -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the Java source code of examples. The links refer to source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java subdirectory. I see you've found JIRA already, but it's here: http://issues.apache.org/struts Where were you looking, so we can add/fix the links to JIRA for 1.3.3? http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/STR-2855 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the Java source code of examples. The links refer to source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java subdirectory. I see you've found JIRA already, but it's here: http://issues.apache.org/struts Where were you looking, so we can add/fix the links to JIRA for 1.3.3? http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/STR-2855 My issue is titled: struts-cookbook-1.3.2: invalid path to source Java files in samples. Tried to search for cookbook in summary and description, nothing found. Tried to search for struts-cookbook-1.3.2, found my issue. The Text Search section does not contain a checkbox to search for either entire word or for any substring, but apparently it looks for entire words. Michael. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My issue is titled: struts-cookbook-1.3.2: invalid path to source Java files in samples. Tried to search for cookbook in summary and description, nothing found. Tried to search for struts-cookbook-1.3.2, found my issue. The Text Search section does not contain a checkbox to search for either entire word or for any substring, but apparently it looks for entire words. Strike that. JIRA search works fine. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strike that. JIRA search works fine. Before or after I changed the summary text on your issue? :) There's a new snapshot available if you want to get a head start on issues for 1.3.3 this weekend: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/struts/maven/trunk/nightly/struts-action/ (Ignore the struts-faces examples, I have one of them fixed here but it's not committed yet.) -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strike that. JIRA search works fine. Before or after I changed the summary text on your issue? :) After. Aha! I noticed that something was different ;-) Then maybe the search did not work properly indeed? I don't know, I guess I was tired and entered something incorrectly. There's a new snapshot available if you want to get a head start on issues for 1.3.3 this weekend: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/struts/maven/trunk/nightly/struts-action/ Ok, thanks! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
Sorry for the delay. I finally got 1.3.2 into test today. +1 Beta -- Wendy On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/28/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things like references to Bugzilla. Do you remember where? I searched across struts-action and only found bugzilla links on the old release notes pages. The Struts Faces index page had a typo and wasn't building, so the old version (which did have a bugzilla link) was online. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I removed the Core link, though it was the only way to get to its reports: http://struts.apache.org/struts-action/struts-core/maven-reports.html Eventually I think Maven 2 will be able to aggregate all of the reports. Until then, we can keep a placeholder page for each report, with links to the components, such as: http://struts.apache.org/struts-action/checkstyle.html I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. Help with the site and with the JIRA issues is appreciated, if anyone has extra time. Thanks, Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
Should we move the ToDo items from the bottom of StrutsMavenMaintenance wiki page to subtasks of a JIRA ticket? If so, we could also add the tasks you mentioned below. I'd like to help, but I'm not 100% sure about what all we want done, in what order, and by whom. Having things spread out between the wiki, jira, and the mailing list only seems to compound the problem. I am encouraged though, as activity has really picked up lately. Let's keep this ball rolling! -- James Mitchell On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all, there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why I think this is a beta release. Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples work, and you could start using it in a development environment without problems. Don Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
James Mitchell wrote: Should we move the ToDo items from the bottom of StrutsMavenMaintenance wiki page to subtasks of a JIRA ticket? Absolutely! We have an infrastructure component in the Action 1 project just for these types of issues. JIRA helps by collecting what needs to be done, any comments on it, and who is working on it. WebWork used it a lot to even when the solution is being actively developed, which I think is a great idea for those longer tasks. Don If so, we could also add the tasks you mentioned below. I'd like to help, but I'm not 100% sure about what all we want done, in what order, and by whom. Having things spread out between the wiki, jira, and the mailing list only seems to compound the problem. I am encouraged though, as activity has really picked up lately. Let's keep this ball rolling! -- James Mitchell On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all, there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why I think this is a beta release. I added a Struts Action 1 filter to list all the open bugs against SAF1, which comes up with thirty issues. I agree that not all of these need to be handled by the 1.3.2 release plan, but it would be help to itemize the open tickets, so that we know what is not being handled and why. Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples work, and you could start using it in a development environment without problems. To me, a Beta means that if it works for more people, we could upgrade it to GA. The JIRA issues aside, I could never vote this release to GA since some of the documentation is already obsolete. But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto a release :) Don Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
Ted Husted wrote: On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all, there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why I think this is a beta release. I added a Struts Action 1 filter to list all the open bugs against SAF1, which comes up with thirty issues. I agree that not all of these need to be handled by the 1.3.2 release plan, but it would be help to itemize the open tickets, so that we know what is not being handled and why. Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples work, and you could start using it in a development environment without problems. To me, a Beta means that if it works for more people, we could upgrade it to GA. The JIRA issues aside, I could never vote this release to GA since some of the documentation is already obsolete. That makes sense, especially since we don't have an RC quality option. I wonder if we should add it, because there should be a way to indicate the code is pretty complete, stable, and free of major bugs, but at the same time, it isn't GA and is missing key ingredients like documentation and minor bug fixings. Don But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto a release :) Don Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Ted. ** http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That makes sense, especially since we don't have an RC quality option. I wonder if we should add it, because there should be a way to indicate the code is pretty complete, stable, and free of major bugs, but at the same time, it isn't GA and is missing key ingredients like documentation and minor bug fixings. Again, to me, a Release Candidate is a distribution that we think we could vote onto GA without change, if wider testing does not uncover any showstoppers. It's a candidate for a GA release. Sure, the binary might be code complete and production ready (or not I haven't sorted through the thirty open issues), but that doesn't make the distribution ready for prime time. Of course, the binaries in our builds are usually production ready. Many people have been using the nightly build in production for six months or a year. The difference between a build and release is that we've included all the other key ingredients we need to turn an entree into a meal. :) -Ted. Don But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto a release :) Don Ted Husted wrote: +1 Alpha As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we need some introductory text for Taglibs. I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one beats me to it. There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything except an Alpha :) -Ted. On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
Stupid HTML email editor... ignore that shale stuff :) Don Brown wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stupid HTML email editor... ignore that shale stuff :) Rats ... thought that was a very enjoyable Freudian slip :-). Craig /me is downloading the 1.3.2 build ... Don Brown wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality
See? The projects are working together already! :) Don Craig McClanahan wrote: On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stupid HTML email editor... ignore that shale stuff :) Rats ... thought that was a very enjoyable Freudian slip :-). Craig /me is downloading the 1.3.2 build ... Don Brown wrote: The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and deployed to http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/ In my testing, I found the following issues: 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work 2. Taglib integration tests don't work Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly. Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond with a vote on its quality: [ ] Alpha [ ] Beta [ ] General Availability (GA) We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes of Struts PMC members are binding. My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems. Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]