Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Cooper

On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

In my testing, I found the following issues:
1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[X] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)



Better late than never... (Me, I mean!)

--
Martin Cooper


We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes

of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.  Only
Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in
JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Cooper

On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all,
there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why
I think this is a beta release.

Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta
means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples
work, and you could start using it in a development environment without
problems.



That is exactly my definition of beta as well.

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Don


Ted Husted wrote:
 +1 Alpha

 As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
 like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
 Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
 need some introductory text for Taglibs.

 I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
 beats me to it.

 There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in
 the next release.

 Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
 known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
 reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
 except an Alpha :)

 -Ted.

 On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
 Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
 The release plan is available on the wiki:

 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
 deployed to

  http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

 In my testing, I found the following issues:
  1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
  2. Taglib integration tests don't work

 Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

 Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
 with a vote on its quality:

 [ ] Alpha
 [ ] Beta
 [ ] General Availability (GA)

 We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
 of Struts PMC members are binding.

 My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
 all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any
problems.  Only
 Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in
 JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Cooper

On 4/28/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all,
 there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why
 I think this is a beta release.

I added a Struts Action 1 filter to list all the open bugs against
SAF1, which comes up with thirty issues. I agree that not all of these
need to be handled by the 1.3.2 release plan, but it would be help to
itemize the open tickets, so that we know what is not being handled
and why.


 Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta
 means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples
 work, and you could start using it in a development environment without
 problems.

To me, a Beta means that if it works for more people, we could upgrade
it to GA.



No, that is a release candidate. Our Test Build is always a release
candidate, in effect, because since we don't vote until after it's built,
there is always a possibility that it could become GA. (Not counting the
cases where we know up front that it's not good enough, of course.)

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The JIRA issues aside, I could never vote this release to GA since

some of the documentation is already obsolete.

But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto
a release :)


 Don

 Ted Husted wrote:
  +1 Alpha
 
  As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
  like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
  Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
  need some introductory text for Taglibs.
 
  I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
  beats me to it.
 
  There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in
  the next release.
 
  Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
  known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
  28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
  reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
  except an Alpha :)
 
  -Ted.
 
  On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
  Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
  The release plan is available on the wiki:
 
  http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
  http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102
 
  the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
  deployed to
 
   http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
  http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/
 
  In my testing, I found the following issues:
   1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
   2. Taglib integration tests don't work
 
  Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.
 
  Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
  with a vote on its quality:
 
  [ ] Alpha
  [ ] Beta
  [ ] General Availability (GA)
 
  We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
  of Struts PMC members are binding.
 
  My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
  all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
  1.3.x code in production for over six months without any
problems.  Only
  Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs
in
  JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread James Mitchell

+1 Beta -- Me too!

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On May 3, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:


On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

In my testing, I found the following issues:
1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[X] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)



Better late than never... (Me, I mean!)

--
Martin Cooper


We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes

of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any  
problems.  Only
Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding  
bugs in

JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev

On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2

In my testing, I found the following issues:
 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
 2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.


Just downloaded, unpacked and started:

1. I wanted to report an issue, but Bugzilla does not have 1.3.2 in
the Version listbox, so this will be the first issue :-)

2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the
Java source code of examples. The links refer to
source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the
actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java
subdirectory.

This results in exception like this:

javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: No resource
/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/SimpleActionForm.java
available in this application

I would file issue (2) directly to Bugzilla, if version 1.3.2 was
available to select. Oops, actually I would not. Cannot find Struts
under product names when creating a new bug. Is it just me, or am I
supposed to use JIRA for SAF1 as well? Could not find the link to JIRA
on wiki page.

Michael.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev

On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am I supposed to use JIRA for SAF1 as well? Could not find
the link to JIRA on wiki page.


Oops, should have clicked the link for outstanding bugs :-) Still, not
very clear how to get to JIRA.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Wendy Smoak

On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the
Java source code of examples. The links refer to
source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the
actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java
subdirectory.


I see you've found JIRA already, but it's here: http://issues.apache.org/struts

Where were you looking, so we can add/fix the links to JIRA for 1.3.3?

In addition to fixing the problem you reported, that example app needs
to be repackaged.  It  looks strange in the (as yet unpublished)
aggregated Javadoc to have an 'examples' package above all the
org.apache.struts code.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev

On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the
 Java source code of examples. The links refer to
 source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the
 actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java
 subdirectory.

I see you've found JIRA already, but it's here: http://issues.apache.org/struts

Where were you looking, so we can add/fix the links to JIRA for 1.3.3?


http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/STR-2855

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev

On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the
  Java source code of examples. The links refer to
  source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/simple/xxx.java, while the
  actual source code is located under /WEB-INF/src/examples/ , no java
  subdirectory.

 I see you've found JIRA already, but it's here: 
http://issues.apache.org/struts

 Where were you looking, so we can add/fix the links to JIRA for 1.3.3?

http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/STR-2855


My issue is titled: struts-cookbook-1.3.2: invalid path to source
Java files in samples. Tried to search for cookbook in summary and
description, nothing found. Tried to search for
struts-cookbook-1.3.2, found my issue. The Text Search section
does not contain a checkbox to search for either entire word or for
any substring, but apparently it looks for entire words.

Michael.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev

On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My issue is titled: struts-cookbook-1.3.2: invalid path to source
Java files in samples. Tried to search for cookbook in summary and
description, nothing found. Tried to search for
struts-cookbook-1.3.2, found my issue. The Text Search section
does not contain a checkbox to search for either entire word or for
any substring, but apparently it looks for entire words.


Strike that. JIRA search works fine.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Wendy Smoak

On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Strike that. JIRA search works fine.


Before or after I changed the summary text on your issue? :)

There's a new snapshot available if you want to get a head start on
issues for 1.3.3 this weekend:
  http://cvs.apache.org/builds/struts/maven/trunk/nightly/struts-action/

(Ignore the struts-faces examples, I have one of them fixed here but
it's not committed yet.)

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev

On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Strike that. JIRA search works fine.

Before or after I changed the summary text on your issue? :)


After. Aha! I noticed that something was different ;-)

Then maybe the search did not work properly indeed? I don't know, I
guess I was tired and entered something incorrectly.


There's a new snapshot available if you want to get a head start on
issues for 1.3.3 this weekend:
   http://cvs.apache.org/builds/struts/maven/trunk/nightly/struts-action/


Ok, thanks!

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-02 Thread Wendy Smoak

Sorry for the delay.  I finally got 1.3.2 into test today.

+1 Beta

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On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2

In my testing, I found the following issues:
 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
 2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)

We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.  Only
Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in
JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-02 Thread Wendy Smoak

On 4/28/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There are things like references to Bugzilla.


Do you remember where?  I searched across struts-action and only found
bugzilla links on the old release notes pages.  The Struts Faces index
page had a typo and wasn't building, so the old version (which did
have a bugzilla link) was online.


The links to the Components, like
Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
need some introductory text for Taglibs.


I removed the Core link, though it was the only way to get to its reports:
  http://struts.apache.org/struts-action/struts-core/maven-reports.html

Eventually I think Maven 2 will be able to aggregate all of the
reports.  Until then, we can keep a placeholder page for each report,
with links to the components, such as:
  http://struts.apache.org/struts-action/checkstyle.html


I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
beats me to it.


Help with the site and with the JIRA issues is appreciated, if anyone
has extra time.

Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-28 Thread James Mitchell
Should we move the ToDo items from the bottom of  
StrutsMavenMaintenance wiki page to subtasks of a JIRA ticket?


If so, we could also add the tasks you mentioned below.

I'd like to help, but I'm not 100% sure about what all we want done,  
in what order, and by whom.  Having things spread out between the  
wiki, jira, and the mailing list only seems to compound the problem.


I am encouraged though, as activity has really picked up lately.   
Let's keep this ball rolling!



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On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Ted Husted wrote:


+1 Alpha

As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
need some introductory text for Taglibs.

I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
beats me to it.

There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed  
in the next release.


Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
except an Alpha :)

-Ted.

On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

In my testing, I found the following issues:
 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
 2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)

We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any  
problems.  Only
Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding  
bugs in

JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-28 Thread Don Brown
I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all, 
there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why 
I think this is a beta release.


Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta 
means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples 
work, and you could start using it in a development environment without 
problems.


Don

Ted Husted wrote:

+1 Alpha

As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
need some introductory text for Taglibs.

I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
beats me to it.

There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in 
the next release.


Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
except an Alpha :)

-Ted.

On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

In my testing, I found the following issues:
 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
 2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)

We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.  Only
Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in
JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-28 Thread Don Brown

James Mitchell wrote:
Should we move the ToDo items from the bottom of StrutsMavenMaintenance 
wiki page to subtasks of a JIRA ticket?


Absolutely!  We have an infrastructure component in the Action 1 project 
just for these types of issues.  JIRA helps by collecting what needs to 
be done, any comments on it, and who is working on it.  WebWork used it 
a lot to even when the solution is being actively developed, which I 
think is a great idea for those longer tasks.


Don



If so, we could also add the tasks you mentioned below.

I'd like to help, but I'm not 100% sure about what all we want done, in 
what order, and by whom.  Having things spread out between the wiki, 
jira, and the mailing list only seems to compound the problem.


I am encouraged though, as activity has really picked up lately.  Let's 
keep this ball rolling!



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On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Ted Husted wrote:


+1 Alpha

As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
need some introductory text for Taglibs.

I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
beats me to it.

There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in 
the next release.


Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
except an Alpha :)

-Ted.

On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

In my testing, I found the following issues:
 1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
 2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)

We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.  Only
Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in
JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-28 Thread Ted Husted

On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all,
there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why
I think this is a beta release.


I added a Struts Action 1 filter to list all the open bugs against
SAF1, which comes up with thirty issues. I agree that not all of these
need to be handled by the 1.3.2 release plan, but it would be help to
itemize the open tickets, so that we know what is not being handled
and why.



Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta
means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples
work, and you could start using it in a development environment without
problems.


To me, a Beta means that if it works for more people, we could upgrade
it to GA.

The JIRA issues aside, I could never vote this release to GA since
some of the documentation is already obsolete.

But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto
a release :)



Don

Ted Husted wrote:
 +1 Alpha

 As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
 like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
 Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
 need some introductory text for Taglibs.

 I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
 beats me to it.

 There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in
 the next release.

 Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
 known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
 reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
 except an Alpha :)

 -Ted.

 On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
 Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
 The release plan is available on the wiki:

 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
 deployed to

  http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

 In my testing, I found the following issues:
  1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
  2. Taglib integration tests don't work

 Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

 Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
 with a vote on its quality:

 [ ] Alpha
 [ ] Beta
 [ ] General Availability (GA)

 We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
 of Struts PMC members are binding.

 My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
 all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.  Only
 Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding bugs in
 JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-28 Thread Don Brown

Ted Husted wrote:

On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I went through every open bug ticket last night, and out of them all,
there only a handful outstanding, and none that are serious; again, why
I think this is a beta release.


I added a Struts Action 1 filter to list all the open bugs against
SAF1, which comes up with thirty issues. I agree that not all of these
need to be handled by the 1.3.2 release plan, but it would be help to
itemize the open tickets, so that we know what is not being handled
and why.



Perhaps we need a better definition of quality, because to me, beta
means there are some minor issues, but the code works, the examples
work, and you could start using it in a development environment without
problems.


To me, a Beta means that if it works for more people, we could upgrade
it to GA.

The JIRA issues aside, I could never vote this release to GA since
some of the documentation is already obsolete.
That makes sense, especially since we don't have an RC quality option.  
I wonder if we should add it, because there should be a way to indicate 
the code is pretty complete, stable, and free of major bugs, but at the 
same time, it isn't GA and is missing key ingredients like documentation 
and minor bug fixings.


Don



But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto
a release :)



Don

Ted Husted wrote:
 +1 Alpha

 As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
 like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
 Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
 need some introductory text for Taglibs.

 I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
 beats me to it.

 There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in
 the next release.

 Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
 known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
 28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
 reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
 except an Alpha :)

 -Ted.

 On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
 Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
 The release plan is available on the wiki:

 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
 http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

 the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
 deployed to

  http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
 http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

 In my testing, I found the following issues:
  1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
  2. Taglib integration tests don't work

 Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

 Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
 with a vote on its quality:

 [ ] Alpha
 [ ] Beta
 [ ] General Availability (GA)

 We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
 of Struts PMC members are binding.

 My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
 all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
 1.3.x code in production for over six months without any 
problems.  Only
 Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding 
bugs in

 JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-28 Thread Ted Husted

On 4/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That makes sense, especially since we don't have an RC quality option.
I wonder if we should add it, because there should be a way to indicate
the code is pretty complete, stable, and free of major bugs, but at the
same time, it isn't GA and is missing key ingredients like documentation
and minor bug fixings.


Again, to me, a Release Candidate is a distribution that we think we
could vote onto GA without change, if wider testing does not uncover
any showstoppers. It's a candidate for a GA release.

Sure, the binary might be code complete and production ready (or
not I haven't sorted through the thirty open issues), but that doesn't
make the distribution ready for prime time.

Of course, the binaries in our builds are usually production ready.
Many people have been using the nightly build in production for six
months or a year. The difference between a build and release is that
we've included all the other key ingredients we need to turn an
entree into a meal. :)

-Ted.



Don


 But, that's OK. I'm not the only one with a vote, and no one can veto
 a release :)


 Don

 Ted Husted wrote:
  +1 Alpha
 
  As Don mentioned, some of the documenation is patchy. There are things
  like references to Bugzilla. The links to the Components, like
  Extras, need to be fleshed out, the Core link is useless, and we
  need some introductory text for Taglibs.
 
  I might have some time to work on this Monday afternoon, if no one
  beats me to it.
 
  There are a few outstanding bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in
  the next release.
 
  Could you add the bugs you have in mind to the 1.3.2 release plan as
  known issues? Or, start a 1.3.3 plan that itemizes these. There are
  28 open bugs in JIRA now, though I think some of these could be
  reclassified. But at first glance, 28 is 28 too many for anything
  except an Alpha :)
 
  -Ted.
 
  On 4/27/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
  Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
  The release plan is available on the wiki:
 
  http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
  http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102
 
  the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
  deployed to
 
   http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
  http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/
 
  In my testing, I found the following issues:
   1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
   2. Taglib integration tests don't work
 
  Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.
 
  Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
  with a vote on its quality:
 
  [ ] Alpha
  [ ] Beta
  [ ] General Availability (GA)
 
  We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
  of Struts PMC members are binding.
 
  My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
  all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
  1.3.x code in production for over six months without any
 problems.  Only
  Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding
 bugs in
  JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.


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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-26 Thread Don Brown

Stupid HTML email editor... ignore that shale stuff :)

Don Brown wrote:
The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a 
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.  
The release plan is available on the wiki:


http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132 
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102


the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and 
deployed to


http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2 
http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/


In my testing, I found the following issues:
1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)

We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies, 
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the 
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.  
Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding 
bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.


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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-26 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stupid HTML email editor... ignore that shale stuff :)


Rats ... thought that was a very enjoyable Freudian slip :-).

Craig

/me is downloading the 1.3.2 build ...

Don Brown wrote:
  The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
  Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
  The release plan is available on the wiki:
 
  http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
  http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102
 
  the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
  deployed to
 
  http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
  http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/
 
  In my testing, I found the following issues:
  1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
  2. Taglib integration tests don't work
 
  Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.
 
  Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
  with a vote on its quality:
 
  [ ] Alpha
  [ ] Beta
  [ ] General Availability (GA)
 
  We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
  of Struts PMC members are binding.
 
  My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
  all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
  1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.
  Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding
  bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-04-26 Thread Don Brown

See? The projects are working together already! :)

Don

Craig McClanahan wrote:

On 4/26/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Stupid HTML email editor... ignore that shale stuff :)




Rats ... thought that was a very enjoyable Freudian slip :-).

Craig

/me is downloading the 1.3.2 build ...

Don Brown wrote:
  

The first Action 1 release since the recent reorganization, we have a
Struts Action Framework 1.3.2 build to evaluate for release quality.
The release plan is available on the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease132
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/ShaleRelease102

the Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 test build has been completed and
deployed to

http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.2
http://svn.apache.org/dist/struts/shale/v1.0.2/

In my testing, I found the following issues:
1. Struts faces example webapps both don't work
2. Taglib integration tests don't work

Otherwise, all the example applications worked correctly.

Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
with a vote on its quality:

[ ] Alpha
[ ] Beta
[ ] General Availability (GA)

We welcome votes from all community members, however, only the votes
of Struts PMC members are binding.

My vote is for Beta quality, as there are no unreleased dependencies,
all the key example apps work correctly, and I've personally had the
1.3.x code in production for over six months without any problems.
Only Beta because the docs need work and there are a few outstanding
bugs in JIRA that should be addressed in the next release.

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