Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-04 Thread Rick
I definitely kept the newer file, of course. My question was asking the 
reverse, as maybe in some cases, the ones not having problems were the 
ones who did not have the newer file on their computer. The newer 
directX support apparently takes care of the older OCX OLE structure.

 From what Skip has said, I am the only person experiencing this problem 
of no waterfall on receive and yet the transmit, including the waterfall 
pattern during transmit, works fine.

73,

Rick, KV9U




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rick wrote:
   
 When you loaded your software, did you get a warning that a file was 
 newer on your computer and that it recommended you keep the file? In my 
 case it was one of the system32 files: MSCOMCTL.OCX.

   
 

 Yes, that is a known issue.  You should have kept the newer file.

 Dave (G0DJA)

   



Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-03 Thread kh6ty
Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode 
properly into text?

Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi?

Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer?

First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit 
problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the 
transceiver.

Skip KH6TY



- Original Message - 
From: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem


I went ahead today and lashed up a temporary set up so I can key up my
 old Kenwood TS-440SAT from my sound card. I don't have separate PTT COM
 serial port keying (only CI-V rig control not supported by this
 software) and so can not use my ICOM 756 Pro 2 for now.

 The 440 seems to test fine with Multipsk but oddly, when I run the
 vbdigi program, I can key the rig via VOX operation and send out what
 seems like a reasonably good signal, but I can not detect anything on
 the waterfall. It just remains blank no matter what. I must be doing
 something wrong. Suggestions?

 73,

 Rick, KV9U






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Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-03 Thread Rick
Hi Skip,

I have not been able to display anything on the waterfall for receive 
and no random printing to the screen from noise either.
Same thing with both rigs on receive (I can't TX with the Pro 2 since no 
rig control to CI-V).

Both sound cards were tried for both programs, switching back and forth 
and trying all sound card positions including Windows default.

I have the built in Realtek Sound Card in this emachines computer, and 
an add on Creative Soundblaster Live! which is more accurate and I 
usually use that card.

The receive and transmit work fine with Multipsk (no rig control, just 
keying the VOX) on either card for TX and RX decoding, but with the 
vbdigi there is TX via toggling the Tune button or the T/R button and 
the rig seems to transmit quite well and I think with a clean signal 
when monitoring on the other rig.

Having done this kind of set up for many years and knowing of the 
pitfalls, I have not had a case where you could transmit OK but could 
not display anything on the waterfall unless there was a broken 
connection someplace. That does not seem possible since it works fine 
with Multipsk for both RX and TX.

Just to clarify, I am using VOX to key the Kenwood TS-440 via the AFSK 
RCA jacks after I re-discovered (have not used this for digital for 
many, many years) that it can not be driven adequately via the Line out 
from the sound card when using the 13 pin DIN plug.

73,

Rick, KV9U



kh6ty wrote:
 Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode 
 properly into text?

 Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi?

 Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer?

 First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit 
 problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the 
 transceiver.

 Skip KH6TY


   



Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-03 Thread kh6ty
OK, this makes more sense.

Maybe we should work this out off the reflector and not bother everyone 
until we find an answer.

Please email me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The first thing to do is run a cable from the earphone jack of the 
transceiver into the computer mic input and see if there is anything on the 
waterfall.

I've never run into such a problem, so it must be easy to track down.

I'll look for your email

Skip


- Original Message - 
From: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem


 Hi Skip,

 I have not been able to display anything on the waterfall for receive
 and no random printing to the screen from noise either.
 Same thing with both rigs on receive (I can't TX with the Pro 2 since no
 rig control to CI-V).

 Both sound cards were tried for both programs, switching back and forth
 and trying all sound card positions including Windows default.

 I have the built in Realtek Sound Card in this emachines computer, and
 an add on Creative Soundblaster Live! which is more accurate and I
 usually use that card.

 The receive and transmit work fine with Multipsk (no rig control, just
 keying the VOX) on either card for TX and RX decoding, but with the
 vbdigi there is TX via toggling the Tune button or the T/R button and
 the rig seems to transmit quite well and I think with a clean signal
 when monitoring on the other rig.

 Having done this kind of set up for many years and knowing of the
 pitfalls, I have not had a case where you could transmit OK but could
 not display anything on the waterfall unless there was a broken
 connection someplace. That does not seem possible since it works fine
 with Multipsk for both RX and TX.

 Just to clarify, I am using VOX to key the Kenwood TS-440 via the AFSK
 RCA jacks after I re-discovered (have not used this for digital for
 many, many years) that it can not be driven adequately via the Line out
 from the sound card when using the 13 pin DIN plug.

 73,

 Rick, KV9U



 kh6ty wrote:
 Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode
 properly into text?

 Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi?

 Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer?

 First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit
 problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the
 transceiver.

 Skip KH6TY










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Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-03 Thread Andrew O'Brien
It makes sense to me.

If you have TWO soundcards set in your PC, you need to tell VBdigi the
soundcard settings you want to use.  I have the same setting as you, I
have an internal motherboard based souncard and a Creative PCI card.
The default Windows souncard is the PCI car BUT I have all the PC to
rig audio cables connected to the internal card.  So, in DVdigi, I set
mine to SC 2 and all came alive in the waterfall.

Andy K3UK


On Jan 3, 2008 6:19 PM, kh6ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 OK, this makes more sense.

  Maybe we should work this out off the reflector and not bother everyone
  until we find an answer.

  Please email me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  The first thing to do is run a cable from the earphone jack of the
  transceiver into the computer mic input and see if there is anything on the
  waterfall.

  I've never run into such a problem, so it must be easy to track down.

  I'll look for your email

  Skip


  - Original Message -
  From: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

   Hi Skip,
  
   I have not been able to display anything on the waterfall for receive
   and no random printing to the screen from noise either.
   Same thing with both rigs on receive (I can't TX with the Pro 2 since no
   rig control to CI-V).
  
   Both sound cards were tried for both programs, switching back and forth
   and trying all sound card positions including Windows default.
  
   I have the built in Realtek Sound Card in this emachines computer, and
   an add on Creative Soundblaster Live! which is more accurate and I
   usually use that card.
  
   The receive and transmit work fine with Multipsk (no rig control, just
   keying the VOX) on either card for TX and RX decoding, but with the
   vbdigi there is TX via toggling the Tune button or the T/R button and
   the rig seems to transmit quite well and I think with a clean signal
   when monitoring on the other rig.
  
   Having done this kind of set up for many years and knowing of the
   pitfalls, I have not had a case where you could transmit OK but could
   not display anything on the waterfall unless there was a broken
   connection someplace. That does not seem possible since it works fine
   with Multipsk for both RX and TX.
  
   Just to clarify, I am using VOX to key the Kenwood TS-440 via the AFSK
   RCA jacks after I re-discovered (have not used this for digital for
   many, many years) that it can not be driven adequately via the Line out
   from the sound card when using the 13 pin DIN plug.
  
   73,
  
   Rick, KV9U
  
  
  
   kh6ty wrote:
   Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode
   properly into text?
  
   Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi?
  
   Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer?
  
   First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit
   problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the
   transceiver.
  
   Skip KH6TY
  
  
  
  
  

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Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-03 Thread Rick
Hi Andy,

We have been trying to isolate the problem, but no luck as yet. I do of 
course use SC #2 since my SB Live! card is the secondary card. 
(Naturally, I tried all kinds of other combinations too just in case, 
but no luck there). Other programs, including Digipan, and even programs 
I have not been able to transmit in the past, work quite nicely with VOX 
keying of the TS-440, including Chip64.

When you loaded your software, did you get a warning that a file was 
newer on your computer and that it recommended you keep the file? In my 
case it was one of the system32 files: MSCOMCTL.OCX.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Andrew O'Brien wrote:
 It makes sense to me.

 If you have TWO soundcards set in your PC, you need to tell VBdigi the
 soundcard settings you want to use.  I have the same setting as you, I
 have an internal motherboard based souncard and a Creative PCI card.
 The default Windows souncard is the PCI car BUT I have all the PC to
 rig audio cables connected to the internal card.  So, in DVdigi, I set
 mine to SC 2 and all came alive in the waterfall.

 Andy K3UK

   



Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rick wrote:
 When you loaded your software, did you get a warning that a file was 
 newer on your computer and that it recommended you keep the file? In my 
 case it was one of the system32 files: MSCOMCTL.OCX.

   

Yes, that is a known issue.  You should have kept the newer file.

Dave (G0DJA)


Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem

2008-01-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrew O'Brien wrote:
 It makes sense to me.

 If you have TWO soundcards set in your PC, you need to tell VBdigi the
 soundcard settings you want to use.  I have the same setting as you, I
 have an internal motherboard based souncard and a Creative PCI card.
 The default Windows souncard is the PCI car BUT I have all the PC to
 rig audio cables connected to the internal card.  So, in DVdigi, I set
 mine to SC 2 and all came alive in the waterfall.
   
When you have set the card, go into Control Panel and then Sounds and 
Multimedia Properties.  Select the soundcard you want to use and make 
sure the correct Line In is selected under the Audio tab by clicking on 
Recording Device and select the appropriate soundcard.

You may find that, if you want to use Line In which is the prefered 
option, that microphone is selected, or vice versa.

Dave (G0DJA)