FreeBSD 6.2 on esx3.5 network issue
Hi, I currently have installed FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE in esx, I do have problem with download file from the box using ftp/scp service. It seems to be slow having a Gigabit lan. it just seems to have going about 100Kbps-500Kpbs on download speed. But I do have high upload speed ranging from 4-5MBps. Is there any adjustments that needs to be done on the kernel? Thanks Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail
An additional question: how come sade and sysinstall which are run inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible inside jails. Well, somehow they are on my system. I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using ezjail and not completely manually From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable=YES export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset=devfsrules_jail - Sincerely, Dan Naumov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: An additional question: how come sade and sysinstall which are run inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible inside jails. Well, somehow they are on my system. I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using ezjail and not completely manually From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable=YES export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset=devfsrules_jail Well I'm not entirely familiar w/ ezjail but I use jails all the time, and I can tell you that /dev in jails is very limited, here's a /dev jail of mine: m...@spry9:~ ls -al /dev/ total 2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel0, 58 Mar 27 03:02 crypto dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 27 03:12 fd dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 30 20:00 iso9660 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel14 Mar 27 03:12 log - ../var/run/log crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel0, 33 Apr 7 14:33 null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel0, 7 Mar 27 03:02 ptmx dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 27 03:22 pts crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel0, 10 Mar 27 11:12 random lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Mar 27 03:12 stderr - fd/2 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Mar 27 03:12 stdin - fd/0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Mar 27 03:12 stdout - fd/1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Mar 27 03:12 urandom - random crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel0, 34 Mar 27 03:02 zero m...@spry9:~ So I guess it's a configuration issue w/ your jails. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov -- cheers mars - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail
Dan Naumov wrote: An additional question: how come sade and sysinstall which are run inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible inside jails. Well, somehow they are on my system. I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using ezjail and not completely manually From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable=YES export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset=devfsrules_jail - Sincerely, Dan Naumov You are not in a jail but as the host. Use ezjail-admin console jailname and things will look alot different. What you are playing with are ezjails system control files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can freebsd be installed on a new mac pro 8 core machine ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 05:24:41, Wayne Burkart wrote: I have a new Mac Pro 8 core desktop machine. I want to install an os that will let me install Cpanel and whm so I can use it as a server. Will FreeBsd install on the new intell based pro macs ? Pleasea advise. That's a clear maybe -- FreeBSD works on some Macs, but not all: for instance it has trouble with the latest Mac pro laptops. Whether this applies to the desktops as well I don't know. I suggest downloading either the USB installer image, the livefs CD or the DVD image; cutting the appropriate media and seeing if you can get your machine to boot and run from that media. If so, then you should be pretty safe installing FreeBSD onto the hard drive. I'd try 8.0-RELEASE first, and failing that, one of the 9.x snapshots (although I doubt you'll get cPanel to support running under 9.x) Note that you can partition the hard drive using Bootcamp without wiping out an existing MacOS X installation. You can then install FreeBSD instead of Windows -- this apparently works quite well, although you'll have to put up with MacOS always referring to the other partition as containing Windows. Or you can install FreeBSD as a guest under VirtualBox, although that's going to needa bit of finessing to make the VirtualBox guest visible from the external network. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku8MH4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwN4QCeLiggPRMAasFnURvwEss8KJZy 02AAnRHu7omXDxeg3iJU6V3bMvlPDdDa =YbyP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 06:28:40, Peter Steele wrote: I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to be populated with the full contents of the real /var? Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, you'll need to set that up to happen on every reboot. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku8MqMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyVvQCfemeBFn3dIshT6hCXQTxXksGU tREAmwWSJlAFsZC0YO5b1Z2uinCssdqp =5x6X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
usage of /usr/bin
Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other things here for a moment. /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications bin/ common utilities, programming tools, and applica- tions But: local/local executables, libraries, etc. Also used as the default destination for the FreeBSD ports framework. Within local/, the general layout sketched out by hier for /usr should be used. Exceptions are the man directory (directly under local/ rather than under local/share/), ports documentation (in share/doc/port/), and /usr/local/etc (mimics /etc). Because we are on FreeBSD, there's excellent documentation that shows how and why the system tree has a well intended layout. :-) The command % man hier will explain everything in detail. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 6.2 on esx3.5 network issue
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:47 AM, josemel esleta cyberjosh...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I currently have installed FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE in esx, I do have problem with download file from the box using ftp/scp service. It seems to be slow having a Gigabit lan. it just seems to have going about 100Kbps-500Kpbs on download speed. But I do have high upload speed ranging from 4-5MBps. Is there any adjustments that needs to be done on the kernel? Well for a start FreeBSD 6.x is no longer supported by the community. I would suggest upgrading to at LEAST the current release of FreeBSD 7.x and preferably 8.x As there is a very low likelihood that there will be any stability or security updates for the 6.x series. -- Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:28:40 -0500 Peter Steele wrote: I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to be populated with the full contents of the real /var? I'm sure that DISKLESS(8) may give you some hints. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
Because /usr/local is used to store binaries installed from ports or packages :) You should check the man pages or the handbook for this. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Deputy Head of IT Department ProCredit Bank (Bulgaria) AD Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com Sent by: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 07.04.2010 10:25 To FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc Subject usage of /usr/bin Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other things here for a moment. /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications bin/ common utilities, programming tools, and applica- tions But: local/local executables, libraries, etc. Also used as the default destination for the FreeBSD ports framework. Within local/, the general layout sketched out by hier for /usr should be used. Exceptions are the man directory (directly under local/ rather than under local/share/), ports documentation (in share/doc/port/), and /usr/local/etc (mimics /etc). Because we are on FreeBSD, there's excellent documentation that shows how and why the system tree has a well intended layout. :-) The command % man hier will explain everything in detail. But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. And I am sure postfix is not the only port to do this also. This intermingling of RELEASE binaries and port binaries in /usr/bin is a really big problem when trying to build jails. Any past ports which have been included into the base release should not be in /usr period. Saying system user utilizes are in /user/bin then why is fdisk or sysinstall not there also. That don't make sense. It time to modernize the directory layout keeping all RELEASE binaries out of /usr. I would think moving the /usr RELEASE binaries by the RELEASE development team is a far smaller task then reviewing all 21,500 ports for the bad ones that don't target /usr/local/bin and then correcting their make files. Before jails this problem was not a problem, But with the growing usage of jails this is becoming a major incentive to not use jails at all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 11:13:13 Fbsd1 wrote: Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other things here for a moment. [snip] But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. I haven't installed postfix, but is this possibly related to the recently (2010-03-22) added option to install postfix into the base? In which case the commit six days later claims to correct a problem with the default (non-base) install. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
make installworld broke - try again?
Hi there peeps! I just tried to update from 8.0-RELEASE to RELENG_8_0. I gut this far: - buildworld - buildkernel - installkernel - reboot - mergemaster -p Then I started a make buildworld and it broke here: install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sort /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 sort.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo (install) === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libtxi (install) === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 makeinfo /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 makeinfo.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 info /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 info.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 install -o root -g wheel -m 444 info.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 install -o root -g wheel -m 444 texinfo.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/infokey (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 infokey /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 infokey.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 install-info /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 install-info.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/texindex (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 texindex /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 texindex.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 === gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc (install) install-info --quiet --defsection=Miscellaneous --defentry= info.info /usr/share/info/dir install-info --quiet --defsection=Miscellaneous --defentry= info-stnd.info /usr/share/info/dir install-info --quiet --defsection=Miscellaneous --defentry= texinfo.info /usr/share/info/dir install -o root -g wheel -m 444 info.info.gz info-stnd.info.gz texinfo.info.gz /usr/share/info === include (install) creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh touch: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/src/include. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Obviously, just trying to install again won't do any good (this isn't Windows), I'm just a little careful about breaking the system. It is also possible that I broke this by playing with the compiler-options (I added 'CFLAGS+= -mcpu=ultrasparc' in make.conf). Maybe that broke my world. Would it be a good idea to simply remove this entry and/or update the source, recompile and try to install again? I don't really want to break the system so it doesn't boot again, because after that, it's usually easier to reinstall it from scratch - especially if you are setting up a new system as I am now. Regards, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:13:13 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: But that is not true. It is, and the example you're giving is one of the exceptions that secures the truth of the statement given in man hier. :-) The postfix port populates /usr/bin. And I am sure postfix is not the only port to do this also. Basically, there are ports that can be installed outside /usr/local, or are especially intended to be. For example postfix, a MTA that can replace the system one's (sendmail), so it takes its position. Other ports also allow the setting of a certain PREFIX variable that will override /usr/local, which is the default setting. Note that it isn't very often done, and if it is, it is intended (as the postfix example you've given, or the sometimes requested statically linked bash within the base system). This intermingling of RELEASE binaries and port binaries in /usr/bin is a really big problem when trying to build jails. Yes, understandable. Any past ports which have been included into the base release should not be in /usr period. It has been the system administrator who decides to install them there. If he insists on replacing some part of the base system with a port, or to add a port outside of /usr/local, it's his decision to do so. Of course, this can lead into problems. Saying system user utilizes are in /user/bin then why is fdisk or sysinstall not there also. Because the creators of FreeBSD have decided that those programs to belong to different classes of programs, and according to man hier: /usr/sbin/sysinstall /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications sbin/ system daemons system utilities (executed by users) /sbin/fdisk /sbin/ system programs and administration utilities fundamental to both single-user and multi-user environments There are often decisions that aren't obvious (or even don't make sense) at first sight. That don't make sense. There are some historical reasons for that. Would you believe me if I told you that the mount binary historically was /etc/mount? Or /etc/fsck? Or how about /bin/adm? Other kinds of UNIX have different hierarchy concepts and naming conventions. And Linux has many more. It time to modernize the directory layout keeping all RELEASE binaries out of /usr. Hmmm... modernize... I know of some Linux that maps all the historical locations into Programs/ or Config/ subtrees... I'm not sure if I would be happy with FreeBSd going the same way, or even further, because I usually find things when I need to search from them, and I can mostly do it by brain - rather than /usr/bin/find. :-) I would think moving the /usr RELEASE binaries by the RELEASE development team is a far smaller task then reviewing all 21,500 ports for the bad ones that don't target /usr/local/bin and then correcting their make files. If should be relatively easy to spot them by variations of Makefile, especially the mentioned PREFIX setting which needs to be overridden in order to leave /usr/local. If I have that in mond correctly, LOCALBASE is the name of the variable that controls where things are put; there was another one called X11BASE, which is deprecated because /usr/X11R6 is now inside /usr/local. Before jails this problem was not a problem, But with the growing usage of jails this is becoming a major incentive to not use jails at all. On the other hand, if you encounter such a problem by the presence of a nonstandard - meaning not being part of the base system - mail transfer agent, then maybe its documentation should mention to pay attention when using it instead of what the system brings, so further problems with jails can be avoided, or at least cured (by a correct procedure given in the documentation). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Aiza aiz...@comclark.com wrote: Dan Naumov wrote: An additional question: how come sade and sysinstall which are run inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible inside jails. Well, somehow they are on my system. I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using ezjail and not completely manually From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable=YES export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset=devfsrules_jail - Sincerely, Dan Naumov You are not in a jail but as the host. Use ezjail-admin console jailname and things will look alot different. What you are playing with are ezjails system control files. No, I am not, I am running sade / sysinstall INSIDE THE JAIL (AFTER ezjail-admin console jailname or after connecting to the jail via ssh). - Sincerely, Dan Naumov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?
Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, you'll need to set that up to happen on every reboot. Obviously I can do that. What I was really asking was if there was a BSD option to do this automatically. I don't want to needlessly bloat the image if I can avoid it since this is to become a downloadable iso. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Postfix in base system
I noticed that someone in another thread mentioned: quote (2010-03-22) added option to install Postfix into the base /quote I have not been able to locate that item. Could someone list the URL for that notice or tell me where to look for it? :-? Thanks %-\ -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ My God! Are we sure he was a liberal? Pretty sure. They pulled him from a Volvo. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 12:09:56, Peter Steele wrote: Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, you'll need to set that up to happen on every reboot. Obviously I can do that. What I was really asking was if there was a BSD option to do this automatically. I don't want to needlessly bloat the image if I can avoid it since this is to become a downloadable iso. There is no pre-canned method to copy data into /var. The closest thing is /etc/rc.d/var which creates a skeleton directory tree. This is designed for diskless usage -- if you look at the script, it's pretty easy to see it doesn't have much in the way of customization hooks. Basically you get what's recorded in the mtree files: BSD.var.dist and (optionally) BSD.sendmail.dist Like I said, you're going to have to script it yourself. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku8bqwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwkKQCcD4gISCSOdZQYWUAJk7DtSUrg tvsAn1YCo4veOCfusEJfzIA1GIxEplCp =uQPM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Postfix in base system
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 13:34:07 Jerry wrote: I noticed that someone in another thread mentioned: quote (2010-03-22) added option to install Postfix into the base /quote I have not been able to locate that item. Could someone list the URL for that notice or tell me where to look for it? :-? Thanks %-\ I found it in the cvsweb interface to the ports tree: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/mail/postfix/Makefile Which lists rev1.155 with the commit message: Add an option to install into the base, and related support HTH Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: perl qstn...
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation languages. And most of them are obscure for good reasons. Just because a a syntax fits into a classification scheme doesn't make it a good idea. Shall we trade more trite sniping, or would you like to say something more substantive? You started it. Natural languages are mostly driven by spoken usage, in which people firm-up half-formed ideas as they speak - this is not a good model for programming languages. If you are hacking out a quick and dirty script it may be convenient to type the decision after the action, but it don't I think it promotes good quality software. This sounds exactly like the complaints Pythonistas use to explain why they have a deep hatred of Perl. If that's how you feel, I'd prefer you stop trying to tell me how Perl should work, and just use something else. I'm not, I'm expressing an opinion that this is not a feature worth copying. Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to subvert that. . . . except when the natural order of decision varies significantly, such as when comparing functions with operators. It gets even more confusing when both functions and operators are actually methods in object oriented languages with an imperative design, because suddenly the difference between a function and an operator becomes purely arbitrary. There's nothing about arbitrariness that suggests a natural order. Expression are different. When you are trying to understand thousands of lines of code, the order of execution within an expression is fine detail, but the flow of execution is something that needs to be taken-in easily. It's kind of odd you rail against natural language then talk about I'm not railing again natural languages, I just don't think they have much relevance. imperative languages having a natural order -- which is, presumably, based on the expectations of people who have been conditioned to think that way by their use of natural language. No, it's conditioned by causality, and other mainstream programming languages. People juggle a lot of languages, being different for the sake of it isn't very helpful. Frankly, if everybody just stuck to a purely natural order of decision approach to imperative language design, we would never even have developed structured programming. I have no idea what you trying to say here. I presume it must be some kind of straw man argument. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
Garret, I have tried the command out, but it apparently does not do the job: === Continuing 'make config' dependency check for graphics/graphviz === Launching child to update libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 === Port directory: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libgnomeui === Launching 'make checksum' for x11-toolkits/libgnomeui in background === Gathering dependency list for x11-toolkits/libgnomeui from ports === Starting recursive 'make config' check === Launching child to update gvfs-1.2.3_2 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 === Port directory: /usr/ports/devel/gvfs === Launching 'make checksum' for devel/gvfs in background === Gathering dependency list for devel/gvfs from ports === Starting recursive 'make config' check === Launching child to update libsoup-2.26.3_2 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 === Port directory: /usr/ports/devel/libsoup === Launching 'make checksum' for devel/libsoup in background === Gathering dependency list for devel/libsoup from ports === Starting recursive 'make config' check === Launching child to update sqlite3-3.6.14.2 to sqlite3-3.6.19 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 sqlite3-3.6.14.2 === Port directory: /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3 === Launching 'make checksum' for databases/sqlite3 in background === Gathering dependency list for databases/sqlite3 from ports === Starting recursive 'make config' check === Recursive 'make config' check complete for databases/sqlite3 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 sqlite3-3.6.14.2 === Continuing 'make config' dependency check for devel/libsoup === Launching child to update gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 === Port directory: /usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring === Launching 'make checksum' for security/gnome-keyring in background === Gathering dependency list for security/gnome-keyring from ports === Starting recursive 'make config' check === Launching child to update libgcrypt-1.4.4 to libgcrypt-1.4.5 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 libgcrypt-1.4.4 === Port directory: /usr/ports/security/libgcrypt === Gathering dependency list for security/libgcrypt from ports === Starting recursive 'make config' check === Recursive 'make config' check complete for security/libgcrypt jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 libgcrypt-1.4.4 === Continuing 'make config' dependency check for security/gnome-keyring === Launching child to update libtasn1-2.3 to libtasn1-2.4 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 libtasn1-2.3 === Port directory: /usr/ports/security/libtasn1 === Gathering dependency list for security/libtasn1 from ports === Starting recursive 'make config' check === Recursive 'make config' check complete for security/libtasn1 jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 libtasn1-2.3 === Continuing 'make config' dependency check for security/gnome-keyring === Recursive 'make config' check complete for security/gnome-keyring jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 === Continuing 'make config' dependency check for devel/libsoup === Recursive 'make config' check complete for devel/libsoup jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 libsoup-2.26.3_2 === Continuing 'make config' dependency check for devel/gvfs === Launching child to update sysutils/fusefs-kmod jpeg-8_1 arts-1.5.10_2,1 jackit-0.116.2_2 devel/doxygen graphics/graphviz libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 gvfs-1.2.3_2 sysutils/fusefs-kmod === Port directory: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod === This port is marked IGNORE === requires the userland sources to be installed. Set SRC_BASE if it is not in /usr/src === If you are sure you can build it, remove the IGNORE line in the Makefile and try again. === Update for
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:20:47 -0500 Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com wrote: [ .. ] === Port directory: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod === This port is marked IGNORE === requires the userland sources to be installed. Set SRC_BASE if it is not in /usr/src === If you are sure you can build it, remove the IGNORE line in the Makefile and try again. === Update for sysutils/fusefs-kmod failed === Aborting update [ .. ] What should I do in this case? First, please don't top post. Second, you don't seem to have the base sources installed and that port, being a kernel module, needs them. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD user Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect FreeBSD committer - ite...@freebsd.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?
On 4/6/10, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 07/04/2010 06:28:40, Peter Steele wrote: I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to be populated with the full contents of the real /var? Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, you'll need to set that up to happen on every reboot. I'm probably missing something here, but I'm not sure that's correct. If the OP wants his own /var, then diskless(8) describes how /var can be automagically populated (see also /etc/rc.initdiskless). The nanobsd.sh script (designed with flash drives in mind) uses this method. I looked into adopting something similar some time back but decided on an alternative solution so I can't provide anything more than a general comment. As a side comment, I'd add I hope the OP publishes the results of his efforts to benefit others who may want to do the same. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Some multimedia keys send many keycodes
Hi freebsd users, I'm running 8.0-STABLE on my laptop, and I have many troubles with the functions keys (brightness does not work) and some other keys like fn-key + f3 (usually XF86WWW) sends the XF86WWW keycode AND sends also the F3 code and that's a real problem since some applications use F1,2,3,...,12 keys. For exemple fn-key - f9 must sens XF86AudioMute, it does but also does the F9 key, look : FocusOut event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x141, mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyAncestor FocusIn event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x141, mode NotifyUngrab, detail NotifyAncestor KeymapNotify event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x0, keys: 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x116, subw 0x0, time 298861, (232,-53), root:(234,285), state 0x10, keycode 75 (keysym 0xffc6, F9), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x116, subw 0x0, time 298861, (232,-53), root:(234,285), state 0x10, keycode 75 (keysym 0xffc6, F9), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False The weird thing is that fn-f11 and fn-f12 (volume up and volume down) sends only the good keycode without the F11 and F12 keycode. So for the moment I don't know if it's only a X.org problem or a problem linked to the ACPI since the fn-key is probably associated to the ACPI. However this does not happens on Linux. Cheers, -- Demelier David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
denyhost: ERROR Fault 1: exceptions.KeyError:'timestamp'
Using denyhosts-2.6_3 from the ports system, I am finding the following error message in the /var/log/denyhosts log file: snippet 2010-04-07 07:45:25,818 - sync: ERRORFault 1: exceptions.KeyError:'timestamp' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/DenyHosts/sync.py, line 117, in receive_new_hosts self.__prefs.get(SYNC_DOWNLOAD_RESILIENCY)) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py, line 1199, in __call__ return self.__send(self.__name, args) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py, line 1489, in __request verbose=self.__verbose File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py, line 1253, in request return self._parse_response(h.getfile(), sock) File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py, line 1392, in _parse_response return u.close() File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py, line 838, in close raise Fault(**self._stack[0]) Fault: Fault 1: exceptions.KeyError:'timestamp' /snippet This error message repeats anywhere from every hour to every three or four hours. I cannot seem to decipher the pattern. Is this error message something I should be worried about; and if so, how do I go about correcting it? -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. J. R. R. Tolkien ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: csup vs cvs
d...@safeport.com writes: A change was MFC'd to the xorg intel driver to include support for the new chipsets. I took the fact that I could see the change on the web: Date: Sun Apr 4 15:37:47 2010 New Revision: 206164 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/206164 That's a subversion checkin. The web source for what's in the cvs (and therefore, shortly, cvsup) is cvsweb: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ Log: MFC r205096, r205102 Add AGP support for Intel Pineview and Ironlake chipsets. to mean that it would be propogated out to my favored csup server in due course. The change was not on cvsup2.FreeBSD.org by 2AM Monday, so I got a source tree from a cvs repository my unix guru runs and updated using that. I used his because I host it. Most likely, that tree is checked out via the cvsup protocol, which means whatever server it came from had the update. So some of them did, even if cvsup2.freebsd.org didn't. When the different servers differ, you need to talk to the manager of a particular server to find out what's happening on that one. By comparing the subversion checkin time to the cvs checkin time, it looks like the delay from subversion to cvs was negligable, so most likely the delay is entirely due to cvsup2's update time. I can't tell how long that is, because I don't know what time zone your 2AM is. What I attempted to ask is (1) how are the mirrors updated; and (2), is there a particular lag time where the latest changes would have to be there? This is not normally an issue for me but I have a laptop that will not run X w/o this change. The documentation project maintains a hubs article that covers the how part. The lag time mostly comes from the frequency with which the mirrors update; official hubs are recommended to update hourly, but it's not required. Note that you could have gotten the change from either the svn URL you posted, or from the cvs equivalent that I mentioned. Then you could have patched it onto your sources directly. For a single-file change (as the critical piece of this seems to be), that's the quick way to go. I normally do not use cvs because, I am not a developer and my learning new things bucket' is pretty full. Hence my [however badly worded] question. Again thanks for bearing with me. cvs is not really *needed* for *anyone* on FreeBSD's base system these days; the project uses it as a distribution method for the source code tree, but real development is checked into subversion and (for official branches) then automatically exported into the cvs tree. The cvs tree is distributed via the cvsup protocol to the hubs, and other mirrors can pick it up from there. The cvsup protocol (whether implemented in the cvsup program or csup) is the main way these things are distributed, but rsync, anonymous cvs, FTP, and probably other methods are supported optionally (which means some mirrors offer them and others don't). -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com writes: But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. By default, it does not. You have to enable the Install into /usr and /etc/postfix configuration option for it to do so. I don't recommend that anyone do it without a *really* good reason. Turn that option back off and you'll be fine. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Wed 07 Apr 2010 at 00:24:51 PDT Fbsd1 wrote: Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. In many configurations, /bin and /usr/bin are not in the same slice. In some cases, they're not even on the same drive. Think about scenarios where /usr fails to mount for some reason. Then look at what's in /bin compared to what's in /usr/bin, and perhaps you'll understand the logic of it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Wed 07 Apr 2010 at 10:13:10 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: Think about scenarios where /usr fails to mount for some reason. Then look at what's in /bin compared to what's in /usr/bin, and perhaps you'll understand the logic of it. I should add that comparing the contents of /usr/sbin and /sbin is also instructive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 6.2 on esx3.5 network issue
On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Ross Cameron wrote: Well for a start FreeBSD 6.x is no longer supported by the community. 6.2 is no longer supported. 6.x in the form of 6.4 is supported through November 30, 2010. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: dead box
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:11:37AM +, Frank Shute wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting the power on button had no effect as did using another known working outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it in and again no joy - no sign of life. Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy way to replace it. My hardware: Antec Sonata case. Gigabyte board. Core 2 duo TIA, Apologies for responding to my own post but I thought I should relate what the problem was for the archives. I tried reseating all attachments to the MB but that didn't prove fruitful. So since I thought it was upgrade time anyway, I bought a new MB and Intel quad core to go with it aswell as a 40GB Intel SSD. I repurposed the memory from the old MB to go with the new MB. Assembled it all and it worked. The old HD was OK too. So from that I deduce that the problem was either the cpu, MB or some dodgy attachment that the new assembly bypassed. The SSD has proved it's worth. Port builds are a lot faster, launching applications such as Mutt and Firefox are near instantaneous. locate(1) and find(1) jobs are pretty near instantaneous. So my advice to anybody still using EM HDs on a workstation is to get an SSD as your next upgrade if you haven't already. I suppose I'm fortunate in that my data needs are fairly small: $ df Filesystem 1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad5s1a 1982798 261090 156308614%/ devfs 1 10 100%/dev /dev/ad5s1e 19566 2217980 0%/tmp /dev/ad5s1f 29893284 7870578 1963124429%/usr /dev/ad5s1d 1982798 69718 1754458 4%/var I just installed 8.0 and rsynced ~/ over. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: perl qstn...
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 09:01:10PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 06:17:41PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P heh ;) Steve I'm willing to let the emacs users have their emacs, and to enjoy my vi. I guess the longer name (emacs) suits people who like pressing more buttons to accomplish the same amount of work anyway. besides all this, someone can use vi easily with only one hand---or just a few fingers for those of us who still hunt-and-peck. with emacs, gotta have at least 17 hands. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?
I'm probably missing something here, but I'm not sure that's correct. If the OP wants his own /var, then diskless(8) describes how /var can be automagically populated (see also /etc/rc.initdiskless). The nanobsd.sh script (designed with flash drives in mind) uses this method. I looked into adopting something similar some time back but decided on an alternative solution so I can't provide anything more than a general comment. As a side comment, I'd add I hope the OP publishes the results of his efforts to benefit others who may want to do the same. From what I can tell, diskless talks about network booting via a PXE server. That's a little different than what I'm doing--booting from a read-only CD-ROM. With network booting, you can create your own customized mfsroot with whatever you want in /var. I could have setup a mfsroot based boot for my CD-ROM, but there are other restrictions to the mfsroot environment that I wanted to avoid. In my read-only CD-ROM boot case, /var is created as a MFS device automatically and populated, but a basic directory layout only is used. Nothing from the CD-ROM /var is copied into the MFS /var that is created. I cannot figure out how BSD can do this automagically, so I'll have to have a duplicate copy of /var on the CD and populate it from that. What I've tried that works well is when I'm about to run mkisofs to create the .iso from, I rename my /var to /var2 and create an empty /var. When the iso is booted, a default MFS based /var is created with a specific collection of directories. I have a startup script that copies my /var2 contents into /var and that does the trick. Thanks to all the responders on this. I think I've worked out all of the kinks now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
port py-libxml2 error
Hi all: I got problem for compiling py-libxml2: - path -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so -lz /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -lpth -lutil -lm -lpython2.6-Wl,-soname -Wl,libxml2mod.so -o .libs/libxml2mod.so /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpth gmake[1]: *** [libxml2mod.la] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxml2/work/libxml2-2.7.6/python' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/py-libxml2. --- the error seems to point the issue to python. i installed python2.6 since some other packages require newer version of python2. how could i fix this problem? thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port py-libxml2 error
Hi-- On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:29 PM, gahn wrote: [ ... ] the error seems to point the issue to python. i installed python2.6 since some other packages require newer version of python2. how could i fix this problem? Installing /usr/ports/devel/pth is likely to be the answer. There may be a missing dependency, or there may be an issue with the options you used to build python. However, I don't see it needed here: % pkg_info -r python26-2.6.4 Information for python26-2.6.4: Depends on: ..and pth things only these are dependencies: % pkg_info -R pth-2.0.7 Information for pth-2.0.7: Required by: amavisd-new-2.6.4_5,1 gnupg-2.0.14 libassuan-1.0.5 p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0_3 Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations?
List, This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone used these? Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a reasonable approach? I just thought I'd get a vote of confidence in my methods before I finally tackle this project and buy the equipment. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: perl qstn...
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: Chuck == Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: [...] Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) you got that right bud! oh, and the Perl stuff too ;-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?
On 4/6/10, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our image has a custom directory under /var but this did not show up in the MFS versions of this directory. I can get around this but I wonder what else might not be included? I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to be populated with the full contents of the real /var? Not that I know of, unless you use the advantages of mfs then. Full circle, bud. Now you're asking for necessities of the mfs or mfsroot systems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations?
Is it not possible to get xDSL/Cable/BRI/WiMAX/3G/4G/whatever at the office. Depending on your wireless gear, antenna, topology, fresnel zone, spectrum pollution, blah blah blah - this COULD work, but not likely very well. Too many variables to know for sure. Many WISP's offer reasonable packages as well. If they have a money back deal, or demo gear - it might be worth a shot. If they comply with the 802.11 standards for xmit power, frequencies, etc. - IMHO you'll be lucky to get this working across 15 miles, even with really sweet antenna's. G PS: Why do you have DSL with no office? Is it just hanging off the utility pole? :) -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Modulok Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:03 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? List, This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone used these? Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a reasonable approach? I just thought I'd get a vote of confidence in my methods before I finally tackle this project and buy the equipment. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations?
PS: One of their product / antenna combo's *MAY* work. I didn't review all details of all their products. Since this is off topic you'll likely get some flames if this goes on much longer :) Good luck! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:07 PM To: 'Modulok'; FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? Is it not possible to get xDSL/Cable/BRI/WiMAX/3G/4G/whatever at the office. Depending on your wireless gear, antenna, topology, fresnel zone, spectrum pollution, blah blah blah - this COULD work, but not likely very well. Too many variables to know for sure. Many WISP's offer reasonable packages as well. If they have a money back deal, or demo gear - it might be worth a shot. If they comply with the 802.11 standards for xmit power, frequencies, etc. - IMHO you'll be lucky to get this working across 15 miles, even with really sweet antenna's. G PS: Why do you have DSL with no office? Is it just hanging off the utility pole? :) -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Modulok Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:03 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? List, This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone used these? Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a reasonable approach? I just thought I'd get a vote of confidence in my methods before I finally tackle this project and buy the equipment. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations?
On 07/04/10 22:02, Modulok wrote: List, This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone used these? Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a reasonable approach? In theory it would work, but reallity may be something completely different. I recall there have been a lot of community initiatives back when geeks were more abundant than broadband. However, 15 miles sounds like stretching it. IIRC people were able to get around 1-5 miles on standard gear with a home made antenna and a clear line of sight. Even if you get connection over 15 miles, you might loose it on rainy or cloudy days. Wifi signals are easily absorbed by water and anything that contains water - that means leaves and other vegetation. I must add that I don't know the hardware you're looking at and I never experiented myself. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com writes: But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. By default, it does not. You have to enable the Install into /usr and /etc/postfix configuration option for it to do so. I don't recommend that anyone do it without a *really* good reason. Turn that option back off and you'll be fine. Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Wednesday 07 April 2010 11:13:13 Fbsd1 wrote: Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other things here for a moment. [snip] But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. I haven't installed postfix, but is this possibly related to the recently (2010-03-22) added option to install postfix into the base? In which case the commit six days later claims to correct a problem with the default (non-base) install. Jonathan I installed the package of postfix and it installed is self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Packages are frozen some time before the RELEASE is distributed to the public. The change you question would have never made it into the RELEASE 8.0 package. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Fbsd1 wrote: Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Unless you or whoever built the package changed $PREFIX: % pkg_info -Lx postfix Information for postfix-2.7.0,1: Files: /usr/local/man/man1/postalias.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postcat.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postconf.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postdrop.1.gz [ ... ] /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/tlsmgr.8.html /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/generic.5.html /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix ...every file is under /usr/local. Perhaps you set INST_BASE option? [ ] INST_BASE Install into /usr and /etc/postfix Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Fbsd1 wrote: Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Unless you or whoever built the package changed $PREFIX: % pkg_info -Lx postfix Information for postfix-2.7.0,1: Files: /usr/local/man/man1/postalias.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postcat.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postconf.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postdrop.1.gz [ ... ] /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/tlsmgr.8.html /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/generic.5.html /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix ...every file is under /usr/local. Perhaps you set INST_BASE option? [ ] INST_BASE Install into /usr and /etc/postfix Regards, I installed the package of postfix and it installed is self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. This is now I know that. I swapped a empty drive with my live system drive. Installed the sysinstall kern developer option to get full binaries and sources. After the install I set chflags schg /dir/ and /dir/* for these dir. /bin /boot /lib /libexec /sbin /usr/bin /usr/include /usr/lib /usr/libexec /usr/sbin. This should have protected all those RELEASE base directors and all the files in then. With the dir also having schg on, no files should have been able to be added to it. I then did a ls -lo /dir file to save copy of their content. Then I did pkg_add -r postfix-current. After which i did another ls -lo /dir file and to my surprise i see all these new files have been added to /usr/bin. What am I to think? How else would you explain this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Fbsd1 wrote: I installed the package of postfix and it installed is self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Hmm, a terrible surprise, I agree. Please ask for a refund of your purchase price from whomever sold you such a package. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com writes: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com writes: But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. By default, it does not. You have to enable the Install into /usr and /etc/postfix configuration option for it to do so. I don't recommend that anyone do it without a *really* good reason. Turn that option back off and you'll be fine. Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Believe it or not, I checked before responding, so I'm *not* wrong. I said that the port populates into /usr/local like it should, and having it on several machines for nearly a decade now, I knew that to be the case. You then changed that to refer to a package rather than a port; I don't know where you got your packages from, but I checked the packages for 8-STABLE and for 8.0-RELEASE, and saw that they install into /usr/local as well. So it sounds like your packages didn't come from the FreeBSD project, if they are really installing anything into /usr/bin. Just as a sanity check: what, specifically, is installed into /usr/bin on your system? Most of the postfix executables go into sbin rather than bin anyway, so it's possible that something in the mailwrapper system is confusing you. If you don't have a /usr/local/sbin/postfix, but have a /usr/sbin/postfix instead, then this is not the case. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
make recursion error
Hi guru: trying to compile /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz and running into problems. the make processes kept recycling until running out of buffer: - make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily unavailable *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/jack. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/sdl12. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/sdl12. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/devil. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/devil. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz. ... ... ... ... ... - how could i fix this? thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: make recursion error
Hi all: Looks like those packages are mutually dependent: === arts-1.5.10_4,1 depends on shared library: jack - not found ===Verifying install for jack in /usr/ports/audio/jack === jackit-0.116.2_4 depends on executable: doxygen - not found ===Verifying install for doxygen in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen === doxygen-1.6.3_1 depends on executable: tmake - found === doxygen-1.6.3_1 depends on executable: dot - not found -- how could i untangle this mess? thanks --- On Wed, 4/7/10, gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote: From: gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com Subject: make recursion error To: freebsd general questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 5:34 PM Hi guru: trying to compile /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz and running into problems. the make processes kept recycling until running out of buffer: - make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily unavailable *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/jack. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/sdl12. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/sdl12. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/devil. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/devil. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz. ... ... ... ... ... - how could i fix this? thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: perl qstn...
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 01:09:54PM +0100, RW wrote: On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation languages. And most of them are obscure for good reasons. Just because a a syntax fits into a classification scheme doesn't make it a good idea. Shall we trade more trite sniping, or would you like to say something more substantive? You started it. 1. No, I used a misquote to lead into a lengthy explanation. 2. Seriously? Are you not aware of how juvenile that sounds? Natural languages are mostly driven by spoken usage, in which people firm-up half-formed ideas as they speak - this is not a good model for programming languages. If you are hacking out a quick and dirty script it may be convenient to type the decision after the action, but it don't I think it promotes good quality software. This sounds exactly like the complaints Pythonistas use to explain why they have a deep hatred of Perl. If that's how you feel, I'd prefer you stop trying to tell me how Perl should work, and just use something else. I'm not, I'm expressing an opinion that this is not a feature worth copying. Judging by your further disputations with Mr. Schwartz, I don't think I believe you. Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to subvert that. . . . except when the natural order of decision varies significantly, such as when comparing functions with operators. It gets even more confusing when both functions and operators are actually methods in object oriented languages with an imperative design, because suddenly the difference between a function and an operator becomes purely arbitrary. There's nothing about arbitrariness that suggests a natural order. Expression are different. When you are trying to understand thousands of lines of code, the order of execution within an expression is fine detail, but the flow of execution is something that needs to be taken-in easily. This doesn't change anything I said. It's kind of odd you rail against natural language then talk about I'm not railing again natural languages, I just don't think they have much relevance. It's kind of odd you rail against natural language *in this context*. I thought in this context was obvious. imperative languages having a natural order -- which is, presumably, based on the expectations of people who have been conditioned to think that way by their use of natural language. No, it's conditioned by causality, and other mainstream programming languages. People juggle a lot of languages, being different for the sake of it isn't very helpful. Who said anything about being different for the sake of being different? If you find it too difficult to actually respond to what I said, please refrain from responding. Frankly, if everybody just stuck to a purely natural order of decision approach to imperative language design, we would never even have developed structured programming. I have no idea what you trying to say here. I presume it must be some kind of straw man argument. It's not a straw man argument. Your presumption is wrong. I have no idea how what I said could not be perfectly obvious. It's pretty clear. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpv6MIox8pkk.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?
Not that I know of, unless you use the advantages of mfs then. Full circle, bud. Now you're asking for necessities of the mfs or mfsroot systems. I don't want to go there, and don't need to. I came up with a simple way to populate /var from the original contents so I'm happy. The CD boots, clones itself onto the target system's hard drive, and then shutdown. The end result is an auto-installed BSD system ready for use. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Kernel Config for NAT
I am setting up a router to share one Wi-Fi link between a few computers that only support CAT-5. Like a wireless access point except wired and wireless sides are reversed. My question is about the ipfw packet filter. From the handbook section on NAT, 31.9.3, I can achieve what I need with boot loader options. Section 31.9.4 describes alternatives for building a custom kernel. In contrast, the chapter on ipfw states several times that NAT requires a custom kernel - 30.6.1, 30.6.2, 30.6.5.7. I want to use freebsd-update and building a custom kernel eliminates that option. Which is correct? Do I need to build a custom kernel to use NAT? -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu o...@aloha.com http://openslate.net/ http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Kernel Config for NAT
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Gary Dunn o...@aloha.com wrote: I am setting up a router to share one Wi-Fi link between a few computers that only support CAT-5. Like a wireless access point except wired and wireless sides are reversed. My question is about the ipfw packet filter. From the handbook section on NAT, 31.9.3, I can achieve what I need with boot loader options. Section 31.9.4 describes alternatives for building a custom kernel. In contrast, the chapter on ipfw states several times that NAT requires a custom kernel - 30.6.1, 30.6.2, 30.6.5.7. I want to use freebsd-update and building a custom kernel eliminates that option. Which is correct? Do I need to build a custom kernel to use NAT? You don't need to do build a custom kernel anymore, that's a relatively recent change. Another option is to use pf instead ipfw since it has built-in NAT. I'm not saying you should change as your current path has worked great for me for many years. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Kernel Config for NAT
Adam Vande More writes: I am setting up a router to share one Wi-Fi link between a few computers that only support CAT-5. Like a wireless access point except wired and wireless sides are reversed. My question is about the ipfw packet filter. From the handbook section on NAT, 31.9.3, I can achieve what I need with boot loader options. Section 31.9.4 describes alternatives for building a custom kernel. In contrast, the chapter on ipfw states several times that NAT requires a custom kernel - 30.6.1, 30.6.2, 30.6.5.7. I want to use freebsd-update and building a custom kernel eliminates that option. Which is correct? Do I need to build a custom kernel to use NAT? You don't need to do build a custom kernel anymore, that's a relatively recent change. Another option is to use pf instead ipfw since it has built-in NAT. I'm not saying you should change as your current path has worked great for me for many years. If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there. If using the module, how does one set these? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Kernel Config for NAT
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there. If using the module, how does one set these? Logging is compiled into the modules and there are a few sysctl's. AFAIK, everything else is the same. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
