Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 16:08, Michael wrote: Cool, once your system is up to date you should be able to change your profile and follow the rest of the instructions. I hope all goes well. emerge --emptytree is now running well - 122 of 1534 so it has some way to go ... Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 15:46, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 13:07, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 12:04:32 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:48, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? Cheers, Wol Are you still on your original profile, or have you used eselect to change it to profile 23.0? If the latter, change back to your old profile, update @world, depclean and then start with the rest of the migration instructions. Just done that. See my other email. NOTHING TO UPDATE (unless I've messed up my emerge ...) Interesting ... just done this under the old profile ... thewolery /usr/local/bin # emerge --ask --oneshot sys-devel/binutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 3.19 s (backtrack: 0/20). Nothing to merge; quitting. Cheers, Wol Hmm ... something is amiss with your system. Normally you would get this: # emerge --ask --oneshot sys-devel/binutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 1.30 s (backtrack: 0/20). [ebuild R ] sys-devel/binutils-2.41-r5 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] Did you emerge any packages using the new 23.0 profile, then went back to the old profile to run the above command? No ... Ummm ... I have had trouble emerging other stuff that didn't want to work with oneshot ... Let me look at my make.conf - I had to over-ride something to get vbox-modules to emerge, this is probably the same thing ... Yup - as soon as I comment the EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS out I get it asking me if I want to emerge binutils. # EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS = "--buildpkg --deep --newuse --oneshot --usepkg" So I'm doing an emerge @world now with the old profile ... Yup - this appears to have un-bunged it - it's working as per instructions. You might want to add to the instructions to disable anything in make.conf that tampers with default settings. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:46:18 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 07/04/2024 13:07, Michael wrote: > > Did you emerge any packages using the new 23.0 profile, then went back to > > the old profile to run the above command? > > No ... > > Ummm ... I have had trouble emerging other stuff that didn't want to > work with oneshot ... > > Let me look at my make.conf - I had to over-ride something to get > vbox-modules to emerge, this is probably the same thing ... > > Yup - as soon as I comment the EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS out I get it asking > me if I want to emerge binutils. > > # EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS = "--buildpkg --deep --newuse --oneshot --usepkg" > > So I'm doing an emerge @world now with the old profile ... > > Cheers, > Wol Cool, once your system is up to date you should be able to change your profile and follow the rest of the instructions. I hope all goes well. :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 13:07, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 12:04:32 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:48, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? Cheers, Wol Are you still on your original profile, or have you used eselect to change it to profile 23.0? If the latter, change back to your old profile, update @world, depclean and then start with the rest of the migration instructions. Just done that. See my other email. NOTHING TO UPDATE (unless I've messed up my emerge ...) Interesting ... just done this under the old profile ... thewolery /usr/local/bin # emerge --ask --oneshot sys-devel/binutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 3.19 s (backtrack: 0/20). Nothing to merge; quitting. Cheers, Wol Hmm ... something is amiss with your system. Normally you would get this: # emerge --ask --oneshot sys-devel/binutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 1.30 s (backtrack: 0/20). [ebuild R] sys-devel/binutils-2.41-r5 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] Did you emerge any packages using the new 23.0 profile, then went back to the old profile to run the above command? No ... Ummm ... I have had trouble emerging other stuff that didn't want to work with oneshot ... Let me look at my make.conf - I had to over-ride something to get vbox-modules to emerge, this is probably the same thing ... Yup - as soon as I comment the EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS out I get it asking me if I want to emerge binutils. # EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS = "--buildpkg --deep --newuse --oneshot --usepkg" So I'm doing an emerge @world now with the old profile ... Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On Sunday, 7 April 2024 12:04:32 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 07/04/2024 11:48, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: > >> On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: > >>> On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: > What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, > which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". > > With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same > logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? > >>> > >>> Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot > >>> of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is > >>> that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Wol > >> > >> Are you still on your original profile, or have you used eselect to > >> change it > >> to profile 23.0? > >> > >> If the latter, change back to your old profile, update @world, > >> depclean and > >> then start with the rest of the migration instructions. > > > > Just done that. See my other email. > > > > NOTHING TO UPDATE (unless I've messed up my emerge ...) > > Interesting ... just done this under the old profile ... > > thewolery /usr/local/bin # emerge --ask --oneshot sys-devel/binutils > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > Dependency resolution took 3.19 s (backtrack: 0/20). > > > Nothing to merge; quitting. > > Cheers, > Wol Hmm ... something is amiss with your system. Normally you would get this: # emerge --ask --oneshot sys-devel/binutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 1.30 s (backtrack: 0/20). [ebuild R] sys-devel/binutils-2.41-r5 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] Did you emerge any packages using the new 23.0 profile, then went back to the old profile to run the above command? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 11:48, Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? Cheers, Wol Are you still on your original profile, or have you used eselect to change it to profile 23.0? If the latter, change back to your old profile, update @world, depclean and then start with the rest of the migration instructions. Just done that. See my other email. NOTHING TO UPDATE (unless I've messed up my emerge ...) Interesting ... just done this under the old profile ... thewolery /usr/local/bin # emerge --ask --oneshot sys-devel/binutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 3.19 s (backtrack: 0/20). Nothing to merge; quitting. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:48:07 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: > >> On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: > >>> What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, > >>> which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". > >>> > >>> With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same > >>> logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? > >> > >> Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot > >> of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is > >> that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Wol > > > > Are you still on your original profile, or have you used eselect to change > > it to profile 23.0? > > > > If the latter, change back to your old profile, update @world, depclean > > and > > then start with the rest of the migration instructions. > > Just done that. See my other email. > > NOTHING TO UPDATE (unless I've messed up my emerge ...) > > Cheers, > Wol OK, in case you haven't, I'd also run: emerge @preserved-rebuild -v -a and emerge --depclean -v -a to remove any dependencies no longer needed. Then change your profile to: [28] default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma/systemd (stable) and continue with the emerge of binutils, gcc, glibc, libtool. You can use '--nodeps' to emerge them in the order given in the profile migration guide, although from what I've experienced this only happens with gcc and glibc. :-/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 11:23, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? Cheers, Wol Are you still on your original profile, or have you used eselect to change it to profile 23.0? If the latter, change back to your old profile, update @world, depclean and then start with the rest of the migration instructions. Just done that. See my other email. NOTHING TO UPDATE (unless I've messed up my emerge ...) Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 11:15, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:00:49 BST Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Cheers, Wol Step 1: Ensure your system backups are up to date. Please also update your system fully and depclean before proceeding. Have you done this already after a fresh rsync of portage? Note that my current profile is marked experimental ... [9] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr (exp) and I also have no stable 20 or 22 profiles to upgrade to. And "emerge --changed-use" gives me nothing to emerge. thewolery /usr/local/bin # emerge --update --deep --changed-use --newuse @world Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 21.46 s (backtrack: 0/20). thewolery /usr/local/bin # Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 11:15, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:00:49 BST Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Cheers, Wol Step 1: Ensure your system backups are up to date. Please also update your system fully and depclean before proceeding. Have you done this already after a fresh rsync of portage? YES. I've printed off the list, and am working my way down it ... My system defaults to deep, changed use, etc etc. I could revert the profile change and try again, we'll see. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:21:00 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: > > What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, > > which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". > > > > With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same > > logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? > > Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot > of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is > that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? > > Cheers, > Wol Are you still on your original profile, or have you used eselect to change it to profile 23.0? If the latter, change back to your old profile, update @world, depclean and then start with the rest of the migration instructions. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On 07/04/2024 11:00, Wols Lists wrote: What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Just to follow up to myself, I've just done a complete update, but a lot of the dependencies are pulled in by "change-use", namely lzma, zstd. Is that fallout from the XZ debacle? Would a --no-deps be safe? Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
On Sunday, 7 April 2024 11:00:49 BST Wols Lists wrote: > What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, > which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". > > With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same > logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? > > Cheers, > Wol Step 1: Ensure your system backups are up to date. Please also update your system fully and depclean before proceeding. Have you done this already after a fresh rsync of portage? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] New profile - gentoo and binutils ...
What do I do here - "emerge binutils" (step 9) wants to emerge gcc, which the instructions say "emerge AFTER binutils". With gcc it says "don't let it emerge glibc", should I apply the same logic and not let binutils emerge gcc? Cheers, Wol
