Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-05 Thread Tim via gnucash-user
Yes that's why I set up a sole proprietorship with employer ID so I can pay all 
the payroll taxes, deduct income tax and pay it to the government, pay 
unemployment, Worker's Comp. insurance etc. I agree with you that it's very 
important to do those things properly.

 

I'm using gnucash mostly for my personal books as opposed to the sole 
proprietorship books which are so simple that we’re doing them in a spreadsheet 
right now with the exception of the payroll software we use to try to make sure 
we get all the deductions right.

 

My sole proprietorship invoices me for the fully burdened cost of each month’s 
payroll and I reimburse it fully from my personal bank account into the sole 
proprietorship bank account. It sounds as though my solution will be to set up 
AR for my sole proprietorship and enter all of the line items into an invoice 
to myself personally. Up until now I'd been using a simple paper invoice.

 

Thank you so much for the suggestion.

 

Tim

 

From: Alan Johnson  
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 11:01 AM
To: timothyscu...@yahoo.com; 'David Carlson' 
Cc: 'gnucash-user' 
Subject: Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

 

I use GNUCash for tracking rental properties as well. You can create as many 
expense accounts to track to whatever level of detail is needed.

 

For example, I have my structure set up as:

Expenses:

Overall R

-Property 1 R

--Property 1 HVAC

--Property1 General

--Property 1 Electrical

--etc

 

-Property 2 R

--Property 2 HVAC

--Property 2 General

--Property 2 Electrical

--etc

 

When you run a P at the end of the year, it will break out how much was in 
each expense category, as well as a total for each property. 

 

Not a CPA or legal advice, but I understand that if you are paying payroll to 
employees, you still need to pay payroll tax unless they are their own 
business/1099, in which they should be paying their taxes accordingly.  

 

You can assign as many line items and expense accounts/line items to the 
invoices as you need. That's their intended function.  You can also pay line 
items into an asset or liability account (such as witheld taxes).  

 

Your handyman should provide you with a bill (or a work order).  

 

- Fixed property 1's toilet. 1 hr@ $x

 

You create a vendor in the vendor system (Handyman LLC)

Create an invoice 

Line item - Toilet repair $x Account: Expenses:Property1 R:Property1 Plumbing

Line Item - Outlet repair $y Account: Expenses:Property1 R:Property1 
Electrical

Line Item - Door knob repair $z Account: Expenses: Property2 R: 
Property2:General

Total $A

- Post invoice

 

Vendors -> Process Payment

 

Pay Handyman LLC $A from Assets:RentalCheckingAccount with check 1234 

 

 

On Mon, 2024-03-04 at 09:46 -0800, timothyscu...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:timothyscu...@yahoo.com>  wrote:

I greatly appreciate your suggestions.

 

I don't think I framed the problem completely. I have several rental properties 
and before I migrated to GNU cash I was using Quicken to generate “itemized 
spending” reports from which I could fill out schedule E for each property. 
When I tried to do the same thing with GNU cash for the transactions associated 
with, for example maintenance on property 1 or repairs on property 2 I did get 
a list of transactions but the descriptions of them were so truncated that it 
wasn't practical for me to verify the correctness of them the way I used to be 
able to do by just looking down the column of transactions.

 

I have a tiny sole proprietorship which runs a payroll to pay my part-time 
handyman and a part-time bookkeeper to avoid nanny tax and Worker's Comp. 
problems but my sole proprietorship's income is just reimbursements from me as 
an individual.

 

If I were to pervert the gnucash vendor bill payment system to detail the work 
my part-time employees do, would I be able to assign line items on an invoice 
to different GNU cash expense accounts associated with the different properties 
people worked on? And would reports generated by GNU cash be able to list the 
detail for the line items? That's my ultimate goal. I want to be able to 
generate reports from the gnucash for each calendar year, which also happens to 
be my tax year, so I can use that information to fill out schedule E for each 
rental property. I'm comfortable with doing that manually but I have been 
spoiled by having reports from Quicken that provide the detail associated with 
each expense account in a form that's easy to double check.

 

Thank you again for trying to help with my problem.

 

Tim

 

From: Alan Johnson mailto:a...@argentwolf.org> > 
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 7:43 AM
To: David Carlson mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com> >
Cc: timothyscu...@yahoo.com <mailto:timothyscu...@yahoo.com> ; gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org> >
Subject: Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

 

You don't have to have 'a business' t

[GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread flywire
You don't need long text lines to allocate splits to rental properties.
Have a look at Custom GnuCash 5.x Transaction Report with Tags -
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/107048.html
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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You could employ custom 'tags' for each property either in the Notes, 
Action, Num, Memo, or Description fields, whatever works best for you. 
Then when you run a Transaction Report, you can filter the results that 
match your tag.


The only downside to this method, at this time, over setting up separate 
accounts for each property, are that the Income Statement doesn't filter 
by custom text, so if you use a tagging system, you'd have to construct 
that report out of two or more Transaction Reports.


Since it seems you aren't so much reaching a character limit as seeing a 
practical truncation on a printed report, maybe just change your wording 
in the Memos? Perhaps start with "Property 1-..." That way you see this 
info up front. You can also use the NUM or Action fields for that text, 
but of these I think only NUM can show up on reports. (and you may be 
using that for something else)



Yes, Bills (and Invoices) can have their line items assigned to various 
expense (or Income) accounts.


That detail is by default, only visible when viewing the bill/invoice.

If you want to be able to craft reports based on that info, you'll need 
to un-set Preferences > Business > General > Accumulate splits on post, 
which will then preserve each line item as visible in the affected 
account registers. (this can also be toggled per bill/invoice on 
posting) A Transaction Report can then 'see' those line items as 
individual splits in the bill/invoice transaction.


Also, if you use bills/invoices, you have the option of setting a 
separate 'Description' in the posting Dialog. While I don't know of a 
way to do any reporting on this field specifically, that info does show 
up in a Vendor/Customer report and in the Notes field of the posted 
transaction. (so presumably, a filter on that field might work)


Regards,
Adrien

On 3/4/24 11:46 AM, Tim via gnucash-user wrote:

I don't think I framed the problem completely. I have several rental properties 
and before I migrated to GNU cash I was using Quicken to generate “itemized 
spending” reports from which I could fill out schedule E for each property. 
When I tried to do the same thing with GNU cash for the transactions associated 
with, for example maintenance on property 1 or repairs on property 2 I did get 
a list of transactions but the descriptions of them were so truncated that it 
wasn't practical for me to verify the correctness of them the way I used to be 
able to do by just looking down the column of transactions.

If I were to pervert the gnucash vendor bill payment system to detail the work 
my part-time employees do, would I be able to assign line items on an invoice 
to different GNU cash expense accounts associated with the different properties 
people worked on? And would reports generated by GNU cash be able to list the 
detail for the line items? That's my ultimate goal. I want to be able to 
generate reports from the gnucash for each calendar year, which also happens to 
be my tax year, so I can use that information to fill out schedule E for each 
rental property. I'm comfortable with doing that manually but I have been 
spoiled by having reports from Quicken that provide the detail associated with 
each expense account in a form that's easy to double check.


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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Your example doesn't really need the business features. You can do that 
with a single transaction too, and that isn't 'kludging' the memo fields 
at all. That is what they are intended to be used for—info relating to 
just that particular split. ('Notes' would be info relating to the 
transaction as a whole)


If I understand the OP correctly, the issue is they are wanting to 
record much more info per split than you demonstrate here, hence, the 
issue with a character limit. This is not solved by using invoices. 
Those have a limit too for each line item description.


Regards,
Adrien

On 3/4/24 9:43 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:

You don't have to have 'a business' to use the business features.  You
would need to set up an AP and AR account to post the invoices to.  To
me, the vendor bill - payment system is the proper way to store the
data, rather than kludging the memo fields.  Here is an example of a
Costco receipt entered as a bill, then paid with a credit card through
the vendor-payments section.

I think that this would be the best way to handle the handyman payments
as requested and job tracking (create various expense accounts). It
would also allow for multiple types of payments - e.g. check, credit
card, cash all on the same bill if needed.


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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread Alan Johnson via gnucash-user
I use GNUCash for tracking rental properties as well. You can create as
many expense accounts to track to whatever level of detail is needed.

For example, I have my structure set up as:
Expenses:
Overall R
-Property 1 R
--Property 1 HVAC
--Property1 General
--Property 1 Electrical
--etc

-Property 2 R
--Property 2 HVAC
--Property 2 General
--Property 2 Electrical
--etc

When you run a P at the end of the year, it will break out how much
was in each expense category, as well as a total for each property. 

Not a CPA or legal advice, but I understand that if you are paying
payroll to employees, you still need to pay payroll tax unless they are
their own business/1099, in which they should be paying their taxes
accordingly.  

You can assign as many line items and expense accounts/line items to
the invoices as you need. That's their intended function.  You can also
pay line items into an asset or liability account (such as witheld
taxes).  

Your handyman should provide you with a bill (or a work order).  

- Fixed property 1's toilet. 1 hr@ $x

You create a vendor in the vendor system (Handyman LLC)
Create an invoice 
Line item - Toilet repair $x Account: Expenses:Property1 R:Property1
Plumbing
Line Item - Outlet repair $y Account: Expenses:Property1 R:Property1
Electrical
Line Item - Door knob repair $z Account: Expenses: Property2 R:
Property2:General
Total $A
- Post invoice

Vendors -> Process Payment

Pay Handyman LLC $A from Assets:RentalCheckingAccount with check 1234 


On Mon, 2024-03-04 at 09:46 -0800, timothyscu...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I greatly appreciate your suggestions.
>  
> I don't think I framed the problem completely. I have several rental
> properties and before I migrated to GNU cash I was using Quicken to
> generate “itemized spending” reports from which I could fill out
> schedule E for each property. When I tried to do the same thing with
> GNU cash for the transactions associated with, for example
> maintenance on property 1 or repairs on property 2 I did get a list
> of transactions but the descriptions of them were so truncated that
> it wasn't practical for me to verify the correctness of them the way
> I used to be able to do by just looking down the column of
> transactions.
>  
> I have a tiny sole proprietorship which runs a payroll to pay my
> part-time handyman and a part-time bookkeeper to avoid nanny tax and
> Worker's Comp. problems but my sole proprietorship's income is just
> reimbursements from me as an individual.
>  
> If I were to pervert the gnucash vendor bill payment system to detail
> the work my part-time employees do, would I be able to assign line
> items on an invoice to different GNU cash expense accounts associated
> with the different properties people worked on? And would reports
> generated by GNU cash be able to list the detail for the line items?
> That's my ultimate goal. I want to be able to generate reports from
> the gnucash for each calendar year, which also happens to be my tax
> year, so I can use that information to fill out schedule E for each
> rental property. I'm comfortable with doing that manually but I have
> been spoiled by having reports from Quicken that provide the detail
> associated with each expense account in a form that's easy to double
> check.
>  
> Thank you again for trying to help with my problem.
>  
> Tim
>  
> From: Alan Johnson  
> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 7:43 AM
> To: David Carlson 
> Cc: timothyscu...@yahoo.com; gnucash-user  u...@lists.gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit
>  
> You don't have to have 'a business' to use the business features.
>  You would need to set up an AP and AR account to post the invoices
> to.  To me, the vendor bill - payment system is the proper way to
> store the data, rather than kludging the memo fields.  Here is an
> example of a Costco receipt entered as a bill, then paid with a
> credit card through the vendor-payments section.  
>  
> I think that this would be the best way to handle the handyman
> payments as requested and job tracking (create various expense
> accounts). It would also allow for multiple types of payments - e.g.
> check, credit card, cash all on the same bill if needed.  
>  
> On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 21:41 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
> > Whatever the actual character count limit is for the memo field in
> > a transaction line, I have found the practical limit is what can be
> > printed in reports that show that field.  On the computer screen
> > you cannot directly see anything that is after a linefeed character
> > unless you scroll past that character since the 'window' is one
> > line tall.
> >  
> > I do not use business features so I don't have invoices or
> > vendors.  Another possibility would

Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread Tim via gnucash-user
I greatly appreciate your suggestions.

 

I don't think I framed the problem completely. I have several rental properties 
and before I migrated to GNU cash I was using Quicken to generate “itemized 
spending” reports from which I could fill out schedule E for each property. 
When I tried to do the same thing with GNU cash for the transactions associated 
with, for example maintenance on property 1 or repairs on property 2 I did get 
a list of transactions but the descriptions of them were so truncated that it 
wasn't practical for me to verify the correctness of them the way I used to be 
able to do by just looking down the column of transactions.

 

I have a tiny sole proprietorship which runs a payroll to pay my part-time 
handyman and a part-time bookkeeper to avoid nanny tax and Worker's Comp. 
problems but my sole proprietorship's income is just reimbursements from me as 
an individual.

 

If I were to pervert the gnucash vendor bill payment system to detail the work 
my part-time employees do, would I be able to assign line items on an invoice 
to different GNU cash expense accounts associated with the different properties 
people worked on? And would reports generated by GNU cash be able to list the 
detail for the line items? That's my ultimate goal. I want to be able to 
generate reports from the gnucash for each calendar year, which also happens to 
be my tax year, so I can use that information to fill out schedule E for each 
rental property. I'm comfortable with doing that manually but I have been 
spoiled by having reports from Quicken that provide the detail associated with 
each expense account in a form that's easy to double check.

 

Thank you again for trying to help with my problem.

 

Tim

 

From: Alan Johnson  
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 7:43 AM
To: David Carlson 
Cc: timothyscu...@yahoo.com; gnucash-user 
Subject: Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

 

You don't have to have 'a business' to use the business features.  You would 
need to set up an AP and AR account to post the invoices to.  To me, the vendor 
bill - payment system is the proper way to store the data, rather than kludging 
the memo fields.  Here is an example of a Costco receipt entered as a bill, 
then paid with a credit card through the vendor-payments section.  

 

I think that this would be the best way to handle the handyman payments as 
requested and job tracking (create various expense accounts). It would also 
allow for multiple types of payments - e.g. check, credit card, cash all on the 
same bill if needed.  

 

On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 21:41 -0600, David Carlson wrote:

Whatever the actual character count limit is for the memo field in a 
transaction line, I have found the practical limit is what can be printed in 
reports that show that field.  On the computer screen you cannot directly see 
anything that is after a linefeed character unless you scroll past that 
character since the 'window' is one line tall.

 

I do not use business features so I don't have invoices or vendors.  Another 
possibility would be to use spreadsheets and refer to them in the document link 
field.  I don't remember if that is associated with individual lines or to the 
entire transaction.

 

 

 

On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 9:13 PM Alan Johnson via gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > wrote:

I suggest you put your handyman in as a vendor. Then you can create a bill with 
long descriptions per item, and then pay the bill with a check. If you want to 
see what was paid, right click on the payment entry in the register and choose 
jump to invoice/bill. You can also run a vendor report.


Mar 3, 2024 18:39:49 Tim via gnucash-user mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >:


> The descriptions that I enter in GNU cash for split items get truncated. Is
> there a way to change this or is this a hard limit?
> 
> 
> 
> To provide some context, I pay a handyman to work on various projects. When
> I write the check to pay him I split the amount among the various projects
> (which correspond to line items on his timesheet)that he worked on to
> allocated it to the different expense accounts associated with those
> projects. I like to enter a fairly long description which includes things
> like the date the work was done, the location, and a brief description of
> what was done but GNU cash truncates it when producing reports or when I go
> back and look at data that I entered earlier.
> 
> 
> 
> Should I be setting up an account for the handyman in which the line items
> of his timesheet would be entered as individual transactions which add up to
> the amount he gets paid? I get the impression that I'm probably trying to
> misuse GNU cash again as I was when I paid my credit card bills with long
> split transactions. I was able to fix that by entering the transactions in
> an account for the credit card and then having a singl

Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 3/4/2024 10:43 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:

You don't have to have 'a business' to use the business features.  You
would need to set up an AP and AR account to post the invoices to.  To
me, the vendor bill - payment system is the proper way to store the
data, rather than kludging the memo fields.  Here is an example of a
Costco receipt entered as a bill, then paid with a credit card through
the vendor-payments section.  


Well, it's a little more complicated than that if you are keeping books 
on the "cash basis" and gnucash only supports invoices if on "accrual 
basis". Essentially at year end (or whenever before the usual reports 
typical of year end are run) you would need to make temporary adjusting 
transactions. That could be a lot of work or not much work. For example, 
if only using invoices (and AR and AP) for very limited purposes as in 
this example, not such a big deal to adjust for a couple of invoices 
still "open" at the end of the reporting period if there would be at 
most a couple of them.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Combined with the other suggestions of an outside log file, using vendor 
bills, or using the Notes field, consider this:


If you are advised of work as it occurs, record transactions between the 
expense accounts and a liability account named something like "Work 
Payable". Put your detail in each transaction. (either in the Memo, 
Notes, or as an attached file)


When you issue payment, that will be a transaction for the present 
balance (or some subset thereof) of the Work Payable account. This is 
similar to how a credit card account is used. You accumulate the amounts 
owed, then pay it.


If you simply get a time sheet with multiple days of work and projects 
at once (say weekly) then probably just the log file will work.


Also, you can use the Action field on each split however you like. This 
might be a good place for the date if you are putting one project/day on 
each split line and will free up characters for the Memo.


Finally, you can simply enter additional splits with text in the Memo 
and not putting an amount. But if you don't select an account, it will 
default to Orphan. You might want to create an 'account' for "Notes". It 
can be anywhere in your tree as it isn't a real account. (though under 
Expenses work well since it is descriptive of expenses) You can also 
enter transactions with these notes only and no amounts at all. (at 
least one split should be assigned to a real account, either an expense, 
or the payment source) You can see the full transaction either with the 
Split button, using View > Auto-Split, or View > Transaction Journal.


Regards,
Adrien

p.s.—kudos for wanting to record as much info about a transaction as 
possible. At some point, you'll invariably want to move/re-assign some 
transactions to different accounts than you originally used. And that is 
near impossible without sufficient info.


On 3/3/24 5:39 PM, Tim via gnucash-user wrote:

Should I be setting up an account for the handyman in which the line items
of his timesheet would be entered as individual transactions which add up to
the amount he gets paid? I get the impression that I'm probably trying to
misuse GNU cash again as I was when I paid my credit card bills with long
split transactions. I was able to fix that by entering the transactions in
an account for the credit card and then having a single transaction from my
bank account to pay off the credit card. I'm not adept enough at accounting,
to put it mildly, to know if there's something analogous I should be doing
in this case. Can you explain it in a way that a newbie would understand?


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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-04 Thread David Carlson
I think you are right, the notes field also is limited to one line tall in
the register view.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 11:05 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> That log file can also be attached to the transaction in GnuCash.
>
> Also, explore using View > Double Line as that exposes a Notes field for
> the entire transaction.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 3/3/24 7:08 PM, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
> > I suggest a workaround: write in separate log document your detailed
> > description, with date, location, and description of work. Make a
> > concise tag or label for each entry in the log.  Put that tag or label
> > in the GnuCash transaction record.
>
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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone

That log file can also be attached to the transaction in GnuCash.

Also, explore using View > Double Line as that exposes a Notes field for 
the entire transaction.


Regards,
Adrien

On 3/3/24 7:08 PM, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
I suggest a workaround: write in separate log document your detailed 
description, with date, location, and description of work. Make a 
concise tag or label for each entry in the log.  Put that tag or label 
in the GnuCash transaction record.


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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-03 Thread David Carlson
Whatever the actual character count limit is for the memo field in a
transaction line, I have found the practical limit is what can be printed
in reports that show that field.  On the computer screen you cannot
directly see anything that is after a linefeed character unless you scroll
past that character since the 'window' is one line tall.

I do not use business features so I don't have invoices or vendors.
Another possibility would be to use spreadsheets and refer to them in the
document link field.  I don't remember if that is associated with
individual lines or to the entire transaction.



On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 9:13 PM Alan Johnson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I suggest you put your handyman in as a vendor. Then you can create a bill
> with long descriptions per item, and then pay the bill with a check. If you
> want to see what was paid, right click on the payment entry in the register
> and choose jump to invoice/bill. You can also run a vendor report.
>
> Mar 3, 2024 18:39:49 Tim via gnucash-user :
>
> > The descriptions that I enter in GNU cash for split items get truncated.
> Is
> > there a way to change this or is this a hard limit?
> >
> >
> >
> > To provide some context, I pay a handyman to work on various projects.
> When
> > I write the check to pay him I split the amount among the various
> projects
> > (which correspond to line items on his timesheet)that he worked on to
> > allocated it to the different expense accounts associated with those
> > projects. I like to enter a fairly long description which includes things
> > like the date the work was done, the location, and a brief description of
> > what was done but GNU cash truncates it when producing reports or when I
> go
> > back and look at data that I entered earlier.
> >
> >
> >
> > Should I be setting up an account for the handyman in which the line
> items
> > of his timesheet would be entered as individual transactions which add
> up to
> > the amount he gets paid? I get the impression that I'm probably trying to
> > misuse GNU cash again as I was when I paid my credit card bills with long
> > split transactions. I was able to fix that by entering the transactions
> in
> > an account for the credit card and then having a single transaction from
> my
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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-03 Thread Alan Johnson via gnucash-user
I suggest you put your handyman in as a vendor. Then you can create a bill with 
long descriptions per item, and then pay the bill with a check. If you want to 
see what was paid, right click on the payment entry in the register and choose 
jump to invoice/bill. You can also run a vendor report.

Mar 3, 2024 18:39:49 Tim via gnucash-user :

> The descriptions that I enter in GNU cash for split items get truncated. Is
> there a way to change this or is this a hard limit?
> 
> 
> 
> To provide some context, I pay a handyman to work on various projects. When
> I write the check to pay him I split the amount among the various projects
> (which correspond to line items on his timesheet)that he worked on to
> allocated it to the different expense accounts associated with those
> projects. I like to enter a fairly long description which includes things
> like the date the work was done, the location, and a brief description of
> what was done but GNU cash truncates it when producing reports or when I go
> back and look at data that I entered earlier.
> 
> 
> 
> Should I be setting up an account for the handyman in which the line items
> of his timesheet would be entered as individual transactions which add up to
> the amount he gets paid? I get the impression that I'm probably trying to
> misuse GNU cash again as I was when I paid my credit card bills with long
> split transactions. I was able to fix that by entering the transactions in
> an account for the credit card and then having a single transaction from my
> bank account to pay off the credit card. I'm not adept enough at accounting,
> to put it mildly, to know if there's something analogous I should be doing
> in this case. Can you explain it in a way that a newbie would understand?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-03 Thread Jim DeLaHunt

Hello, Tim:

On 2024-03-03 15:39, Tim via gnucash-user wrote:

The descriptions that I enter in GNU cash for split items get truncated. Is
there a way to change this or is this a hard limit?


I am not certain, having not looked at the GnuCash code, but in my years 
using the program I have not come across a way to extend the length 
limit of the description, memo, or notes fields. I suspect it is not 
changeable.




To provide some context, I pay a handyman….
I like to enter a fairly long description which includes things
like the date the work was done, the location, and a brief description of
what was done but GNU cash truncates it….


I think it would be reasonable to respond with, GnuCash is an accounting 
program, and you are trying to use it for project tracking. It is 
reasonable for GnuCash to not attempt to be a project tracking program 
also.


I suggest a workaround: write in separate log document your detailed 
description, with date, location, and description of work. Make a 
concise tag or label for each entry in the log.  Put that tag or label 
in the GnuCash transaction record.


Best regards,
 —Jim DeLaHunt

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[GNC] split transaction description field length limit

2024-03-03 Thread Tim via gnucash-user
The descriptions that I enter in GNU cash for split items get truncated. Is
there a way to change this or is this a hard limit?

 

To provide some context, I pay a handyman to work on various projects. When
I write the check to pay him I split the amount among the various projects
(which correspond to line items on his timesheet)that he worked on to
allocated it to the different expense accounts associated with those
projects. I like to enter a fairly long description which includes things
like the date the work was done, the location, and a brief description of
what was done but GNU cash truncates it when producing reports or when I go
back and look at data that I entered earlier.

 

Should I be setting up an account for the handyman in which the line items
of his timesheet would be entered as individual transactions which add up to
the amount he gets paid? I get the impression that I'm probably trying to
misuse GNU cash again as I was when I paid my credit card bills with long
split transactions. I was able to fix that by entering the transactions in
an account for the credit card and then having a single transaction from my
bank account to pay off the credit card. I'm not adept enough at accounting,
to put it mildly, to know if there's something analogous I should be doing
in this case. Can you explain it in a way that a newbie would understand?

 

Thank you

 

 

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