Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 12:02 +, Amos Shapira wrote: I'm after a wireless access point. I saw the D-Link DI524 for a good price but also the that D-Link 604T can give the same functionality plus ADSL2+ modem for a little more money (I currently use an ADSL1 modem on an ADSL2+ plan). Any standard LAN/Wireless router can physically act as an access-point, though not all internal software will let you do that. Optimally you would be able to turn off the NAT that the router is doing between the LAN/Wireless and the WAN port so it would act like an expensive switch. But I have yet to see a built-in router operating system that let you do that. I've successfully used generic WRT54G routers in this capacity by turning off the DHCP service for the local LAN and plugging the outgoing LAN cable into one of the LAN ports, but if you get a WRT54GL (or WRT54G v4 or older) then you can install a third-party operating system that will probably let you do anything you want. I'm using DD-WRT which has a very similar interface to the default Linksys operating system (its based on it) although its much prettier, and in the main wireless configuration page it has a mode setting where one of them is access point. It doesn't get much simpler then that. -- Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
Hello, I am total newbie ob this, so my question may sound silly, but: You could make sure and buy a Linksys WRT54G-L router and run a Linux distro on it. Try Tomato www.polarcloud.com Suppose I have WRT54G-L route at home and it runs indeed LInux (because I heard there are versions of this router which do not run Liux). Could I install on that linux on this router an Apaceh web server with a small page (using something like no-ip for an address; http://www.no-ip.com/support/guides/update_clients/setting_up_linux_update_client.html)? Regards, Dan On Dec 3, 2007 2:19 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:02:51PM +, Amos Shapira wrote: I'm after a wireless access point. I saw the D-Link DI524 for a good price but also the that D-Link 604T can give the same functionality plus ADSL2+ modem for a little more money (I currently use an ADSL1 modem on an ADSL2+ plan). I plan to visit abroad next month and connect the access point to existing LAN's (so I can connect my workplace laptop over wireless network). Does anyone know whether ADSL modems/wireless-routers can be used as plain access points on LAN? Or can they route only when used with their ADSL port? I can't answer for ALL of them, however most can. You enable the access point part and disable the router part. Most importantly turn off the DHCP server and assign a real IP address to the device. If it has an option to bridge the ethernet and wireless networks, turn it on. Plug the network into the LAN port and away you go. I've done this with D-Link, EdiMax and Apple. You could make sure and buy a Linksys WRT54G-L router and run a Linux distro on it. Try Tomato www.polarcloud.com Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:00:59PM +0200, Dan Shimshoni wrote: I am total newbie ob this, so my question may sound silly, but: You could make sure and buy a Linksys WRT54G-L router and run a Linux distro on it. Try Tomato www.polarcloud.com Suppose I have WRT54G-L route at home and it runs indeed LInux (because I heard there are versions of this router which do not run Liux). Could I install on that linux on this router an Apaceh web server with a small page (using something like no-ip for an address; http://www.no-ip.com/support/guides/update_clients/setting_up_linux_update_client.html)? I don't know about tomato, but there are several distributions of linux for it. It already includes some sort of web server so that you can configure the unit with a browser. The trick would be to change the configuration of the web server to provide the page(s) and squeezing the pages themselves into available memory. I did a web quick search and found a person suggesting to install open-wrt and an NFS client so that you could mount a share containing the pages, but no details: (look in the comments) http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/20-Kismet-on-the-Linksys-WRT54G.html I assume that if you want a standalone web server then you should be able to put up a page that says This web page is under contstruction. Contact email address for details. With very little trouble. Including a high resolution full color jpeg of your smiling face may overload it however. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for UPS info
You can replace PC + UPS system by a laptop with external monitor and with (USB) keyboard and mouse. Then you will have up to three hours of power protection:). You definitely need to select a laptop with adequate CPU/GPU/NIC for your tasks. Current (Dec 2007) Debian unstable works fine on laptops with Intel CPU/GPU/NICs. Moshe. Omer Zak wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 19:31 +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: 1. I'm guessing that there are two issues when it comes to UPSs - power output and how long that power can be delivered before draining the bateries. How much power will I need and is there a target length of time I should aim for? Does one factor influence price more than the other? Actually, UPSes are rated in terms of volt-amper rather than power (in watts). This is because UPSes need to deliver also reactive power (which happens when voltage and current are not in phase). I would aim at 200 volt*amper per PC to be protected. UPSes generally deliver only few minutes' power. At the time I looked for an UPS which can power a FAX machine (much lower standby power consumption than PCs) for hours - but in vain. To deliver more power, you may need a generator powered by motor. This time should be enough for orderly power-down of the computers. 3. What are typical prices for UPSs in Israel? I saw an ad for some products today but I don't know how well they compare to prices generally (no brands mentioned, which was interesting in itself). When I was in the market for UPSes, they had 3-digit cost in US$. 4. The ad mentioned above also mentioned surge protection. Is this a typical UPS feature? Depends. For full protection, you would need on-line type of UPSes (a bit more expensive). That's probably enough questions for anyone who wants to answer. I've never laid hands on a UPS so am not sure what to expect when I get one, but I'm guessing that there's a UPS howto out there somewhere which should at least tell me what to expect on the LInux side of things. There used to be an UPS HOWTO, written by Harvey Stein (remembered by the Linux-IL oldtimers). But it was several years ago. You can also expect an UPS to be heavy - it usually contains lead-acid batteries. --- Omer (who has two UPSes, one powers his FAX machine, and the other - his computers) -- Moshe Gorohovsky A6 CC A7 E1 C2 BD 8C 1B 30 8E A4 C3 4C 09 88 47 Tk Open Systems Ltd. --- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Dan Shimshoni wrote: Suppose I have WRT54G-L route at home and it runs indeed LInux (because I heard there are versions of this router which do not run Liux). the 'L' in the model name is for Linux. The latest (v8 I believe it is called) is running vxWorks. --y signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:43:07PM +0200, Yuval Hager wrote: the 'L' in the model name is for Linux. The latest (v8 I believe it is called) is running vxWorks. What happened is the original version ran Linux. Linksys found that they could use half the RAM, get better performance and prevent people from hacking them by replacing a Linux system customized to be a router with an application specific router program in vxWorks. This cut the price significantly and increased profits while cutting costs and retail price. People who buy the router to use out of the box where happy. People who bought them to run their own versions of Linux stopped buying them and overall sales went down. The L version was their response, they sell both the current vxWorks unit for people that don't care what they run and the L version with the extra RAM and Linux firmware to those that do. The L version is the one to buy if you want to install your own version of Linux on it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
Hi, the 'L' in the model name is for Linux. I don't understand something: is the source code for the Linux kernel and other applications running on the WRT54GL (the kernel and applications which are shipped with it upon purchase) are open and available freely from LinkSys ? and in case it is so - from where can I get it ? I had went to the official LinkSys site for this product: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1133202177241pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper And I found there, in the bottom , in very little letters (I had to enlarge the image by gimp), a little green/black open soure tavit (label). It says like this: Open Source == This product may contain material licensed to you under GPL General Public License or other open source software license. Upon request, open-source software source code is available at cost from LinkSys for at least three years from the product purchase date. For detailed license terms and additional information look at www.linksys.com. So I wonder - did anybody read this ? why is at at cost ? I expected it to be at no cost? Best Regards, DS On Dec 4, 2007 12:43 PM, Yuval Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Dan Shimshoni wrote: Suppose I have WRT54G-L route at home and it runs indeed LInux (because I heard there are versions of this router which do not run Liux). the 'L' in the model name is for Linux. The latest (v8 I believe it is called) is running vxWorks. --y = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results for benchmark for Maildir filesystem
Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Sat, 01 Dec: Hi, I just saw a link for this on the CentOS mailing list and though it might interest people here. http://www.htiweb.inf.br/benchmark/fsbench.htm indeed, my jaw dropped. I had no idea ReiserFS was so far behind EXT3 :-( time to reconsidder XFS I guess? I never used it before. Is is better at recovering from crashes than ext3? journaling and all, I had it sometimes come up in a bad, barely recoverable state after a crash. -- Kneel before Zod Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:43:31PM +0200, David Shwatrz wrote: So I wonder - did anybody read this ? why is at at cost ? I expected it to be at no cost? Why? The GPL does not require the source code to be FREE as in no money. Exactly what at cost is, can be defined many ways all of which are allowed by the GPL. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results for benchmark for Maildir filesystem
Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Sat, 01 Dec: Hi, I just saw a link for this on the CentOS mailing list and though it might interest people here. http://www.htiweb.inf.br/benchmark/fsbench.htm indeed, my jaw dropped. I had no idea ReiserFS was so far behind EXT3 :-( time to reconsidder XFS I guess? I never used it before. Is is better at recovering from crashes than ext3? journaling and all, I had it sometimes come up in a bad, barely recoverable state after a crash. From past experience with it (a couple of years ago), XFS uses an aggressive caching scheme which led (in my case) to data loss and need for repair after crashing. Since then I've used ext3, so no idea if things changed (for better or worse). Cheers -- Meir Kriheli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results for benchmark for Maildir filesystem
Hi, indeed, my jaw dropped. I had no idea ReiserFS was so far behind EXT3 :-( time to reconsidder XFS I guess? I never used it before. Is is better at recovering from crashes than ext3? journaling and all, I had it sometimes come up in a bad, barely recoverable state after a crash. I think it's pretty good actually, but it really depends on your needs and the work the server is going to do. If I recall correctly (few years ago actually), it's suitable if you have tons and tons of small files. It's brother (cxfs) is great for clusters, but it will cost you an arm and leg :) Thanks, Hetz -- Kneel before Zod Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results for benchmark for Maildir filesystem
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 14:07 +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Sat, 01 Dec: Hi, I just saw a link for this on the CentOS mailing list and though it might interest people here. http://www.htiweb.inf.br/benchmark/fsbench.htm indeed, my jaw dropped. I had no idea ReiserFS was so far behind EXT3 :-( Do note that the Ext3 setup is not really a default one but one optimized for performance - while the ReiserFS installation didn't benefit from such care. Also - as the Ext3 options used in the benchmark are not defaults for Ext3 one would need to ask one self why aren't these on by default and the answer may have something to do with reliability. OTOH the XFS wasn't optimized either and still kicked some serious butt. While we're on the subject of optimization, also note that the ReiserFS test was done with the notail option which radically decreases the performance with small files (which is IMO one of ReiserFS's key benefits) and the Maildir benchmark used reads and writes a lot of small files. time to reconsidder XFS I guess? I never used it before. Is is better at recovering from crashes than ext3? journaling and all, I had it sometimes come up in a bad, barely recoverable state after a crash. I had the same experience with XFS - on system crash and occasionally just when booting XFS would report errors and refuse to start, but another restart and it automatically fixes itself, so I'm not sure - there was no data loss and I had a good feeling that the system can recover from crashes, but its not comfortable and requires interaction. -- Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using a wireless adsl modem/router as an access-point only?
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 13:43 +0200, David Shwatrz wrote: Hi, the 'L' in the model name is for Linux. I don't understand something: is the source code for the Linux kernel are open and available freely from LinkSys ? and in case it is so - from where can I get it ? I had went to the official LinkSys site for this product: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1133202177241pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper And I found there, in the bottom , in very little letters (I had to enlarge the image by gimp), a little green/black open soure tavit (label). Here is a better picture from an actual box shameless plug http://geek.co.il/wp/2006/12/21/open-source-the-warning-label/ /shameless plug If you look more closely you'd notice that the URL on the label says www.linksys.com/gpl , and going to that address you'll find the sources for download. Several 3rd party router distribution (not only for Linksys products) are based on the Linksys source dump. -- Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fedora 7 -- Fedora 8
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 09:19 +0200, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
Dear List,
For reasons best kept private, I upgraded by Fedora 7 box to Fedora 8 (via yum
update). After the dependency hassle was solved, I'm left with an extremely
slow-responsive GUI. Using ssh seems fine, but in xterm it takes almost a
second for a typed key to show up.
The odd thing, is that when I reboot with an old F-7 kernel this problem
disappears (but another one, regarding ypbind/autofs emerges, never mind
that).
Any idea why it happens and how it is solved?
A. what's the output of:
$ rpm -qa --queryformat %{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n | grep
fc7
B. What's your hardware/Xorg configuration? Are you using compiz
friends?
C. Are you using gnome or KDE? If you create a new user and login into
the new account - are you hitting the same problem?
- Gilboa
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help with fonts
I *need* to run ie6 on my fedora 7, for Hebrew sites that use asp. When I was on fedora 6, it worked ok. Now I don't get any Hebrew fonts. I probably botched something in the installation, anyone knows what? Thanks, Dan
Re: help with fonts
And, I alreadey tried to install ie4linux with HE locale, then I got all the IE menus in gibberish, and walla still opened with no Hebrew dfonts On Dec 4, 2007 5:50 PM, Dan Bar Dov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *need* to run ie6 on my fedora 7, for Hebrew sites that use asp. When I was on fedora 6, it worked ok. Now I don't get any Hebrew fonts. I probably botched something in the installation, anyone knows what? Thanks, Dan
Re: Store selling Linux computer with support
On Dec 3, 2007 8:25 PM, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, 2 בDecember 2007, sara fink wrote: d-source installs ubuntu. They will help to connect to internet as well. http://www.d-source.co.il/ Can you back it up? I followed your link with the following results: - Didn't see Linux or Ubuntu mentioned anywere. - Using their search with Linux or Ubuntu returns nothing. - Just to test that search actually functions, I tried windows and vista... yes they do work (not the OS, the search ;-) - Otherwise, their website barely works (e.g: the Javascript links on the sidebar to the various categories, do not work) -- Tested on both Firefox-2.0.0.10 and Konqi-3.5.8 from Fedora-7 So? So... This thing got me curies and I went to verify some information. http://d-source.co.il are resellers of http://affordy.com which delivery hardware + software for the home marked based on Ubuntu. 1. They will support you in your first steps of connecting to the Internet by working with the ISP. 2. They sell Monthly (100NIS) / Yearly (600NIS) technical support. A home visit will cost you 250 NIS. Their support covers PC not booting, no X and other user land stuff. From the business point of view, they've sold ~100 PCs in Israel and are expending abroad. Their offer includes Ubuntu core + 3rd party software (mostly binary freeware such as Skype, games and toys). It's seems like a small PC shop (6 employees with hardware backing from d-source). On the community side, they have plans on donating hardware for ubuntu.org.il, I'll believe it when I see it happening. All in all, this seems like win-win situation for us all. Maxim. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 Without the wind, the grass does not move. Without software, hardware is useless. -- Tao of Programming To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Maxim Veksler Free as in Freedom - Do u GNU ?
Re: help with fonts
Hi, You can try to install either culmus RPM package or use the MS core fonts (http://corefonts.sf.net) Thanks, Hetz On 12/4/07, Dan Bar Dov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, I alreadey tried to install ie4linux with HE locale, then I got all the IE menus in gibberish, and walla still opened with no Hebrew dfonts On Dec 4, 2007 5:50 PM, Dan Bar Dov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *need* to run ie6 on my fedora 7, for Hebrew sites that use asp. When I was on fedora 6, it worked ok. Now I don't get any Hebrew fonts. I probably botched something in the installation, anyone knows what? Thanks, Dan -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Store selling Linux computer with support
On 04/12/2007, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... This thing got me curies and I went to verify some information. http://d-source.co.il are resellers of http://affordy.com which delivery hardware + software for the home marked based on Ubuntu. 1. They will support you in your first steps of connecting to the Internet by working with the ISP. 2. They sell Monthly (100NIS) / Yearly (600NIS) technical support. A home visit will cost you 250 NIS. Their support covers PC not booting, no X and other user land stuff. From the business point of view, they've sold ~100 PCs in Israel and are expending abroad. Their offer includes Ubuntu core + 3rd party software (mostly binary freeware such as Skype, games and toys). It's seems like a small PC shop (6 employees with hardware backing from d-source). On the community side, they have plans on donating hardware for ubuntu.org.il, I'll believe it when I see it happening. So far sounds like a great operation. I'd consider buying my next computer from them, if only to help the cause. All in all, this seems like win-win situation for us all. You mean a no-Win situation, do you ;) Thanks for the info. Cheers, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results for benchmark for Maildir filesystem
On Dec 4, 2007 2:07 PM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: indeed, my jaw dropped. I had no idea ReiserFS was so far behind EXT3 :-( Please note that this test was for ReiserFS3.6 and not the ResierFS4 This is a big difference...
Re: results for benchmark for Maildir filesystem
Noam Meltzer wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 2:07 PM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: indeed, my jaw dropped. I had no idea ReiserFS was so far behind EXT3 :-( Please note that this test was for ReiserFS3.6 and not the ResierFS4 This is a big difference... Question is, will ReiserFS4 ever be officially released as stable? Particularly, as its lead programmer is in jail? Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results for benchmark for Maildir filesystem
Ira Abramov wrote: time to reconsidder XFS I guess? I never used it before. Is is better at recovering from crashes than ext3? journaling and all, I had it sometimes come up in a bad, barely recoverable state after a crash. What I heard was that Reiser, XFS, and if I remember correctly also JFS, only journal the metadata (cluster locations, time modifications etc.), while EXT3 journals everything, making it, potentially, more reliable. Then again, I also heard that most IDE drives and several SATA and SCSI drives will lie to the OS about write operation successfully finished to disk (while, in fact, data is still in the hard disk's cache). Add to that the fact that power going down unequally throughout the computer can cause the hard disk to keep writing junk after the CPU has already shut off, and you get the fact that it's close to impossible to make sure that data is never lost. Personally, after having been burnt by Reiser a few times, I use EXT3. XFS had several appealing points to me, but after reading the info in the first paragraph I decided to go with less sophisticated but more reliable. On a related note, my Debian account manager (when I was applying to become a Debian developer) had to run a huge mail farm for a client with an assured maximal response time. They tested everything they could, and eventually went for EXT2, which was the only thing that lived up to that response time. Just a thought. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
