[RBW] Re: WTB – Nitto 34F Rack

[Luke Hendrickson]

Thanks both!!

I’ll give it a gander if an opportunity with my Canadian friend falls 
through. 
On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 7:54:58 PM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> One more plug for Ben's. I've purchased a few different Carradice items 
> from them in the past. Just a few weeks ago I ordered a Nitto M-12 rack 
> from them and then freaked out thinking it would not work with the V-brakes 
> I have on the bike (Nitto specifies that they are for canti brakes). I 
> exchanged emails with a gentleman in the shop named Drew who took the time 
> to look at some pics of my fork and determined that it "should work" - and 
> it did.
>
> My first choice is always my favorite LBS, followed by RBW - - but there 
> are times when they just don't have what I'm looking for.
>
> Steve. in Asheville, NC
> On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 3:33:49 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Ben's Cycle for the win Luke ! 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 3:07:07 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all! I found one for $260 shipped, but don’t wanna pay that much if 
>>> I can avoid it. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

[rltilley]

The first bike I bought for myself was a mid 80’s Schwinn Sierra and I rode that to commute to work and school. Once I added a road bike (Nishiki Prestige) to that I started reading cycling magazines and learned that the flat pedals I had been using since I started riding weren’t the way to go. So I bought some Time pedals and cleats for the road bike.  The Schwinn got some clips and straps for retention.At some point I ditched the Time for SPD’s and used those on all bikes for years. When I got my Riv custom in 2000 I went in on the retro thing and put clips and straps on it but that didn’t last long and the Riv soon got SPD’s as well.Quite a few years back I picked up a Brompton and found the flat, no retention pedals on it didn’t feel weird and I did not miss having retention. Since then I have most of my bikes set up with flat pedals with pins. I still have my “go fast” bike set up with SPD’s and I do put those on my off-road bike when I plan to do more technical trails. But most off-road rides I just used flats.  I really like not having to change into different shoes when I ride. Most of my riding is commuting/errands so I am not getting “kitted up” for those rides. Since I’m not changing into a riding outfit it makes sense to not have to change shoes as well.Robert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2023, at 5:44 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's out-of-context judgment.But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use clipless systems -- and what kind.I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about 1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb mechanism). A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention shoes but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find the right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps + almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard to give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of my riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with them.Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.-- Patrick MooreAlburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum---Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services---When thou didst not, savage, know thine own meaning,But wouldst gabble like a thing most brutish,I endowed thy purposes with words that made them known.



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[RBW] Re: WTB – Nitto 34F Rack

[Steve]

One more plug for Ben's. I've purchased a few different Carradice items 
from them in the past. Just a few weeks ago I ordered a Nitto M-12 rack 
from them and then freaked out thinking it would not work with the V-brakes 
I have on the bike (Nitto specifies that they are for canti brakes). I 
exchanged emails with a gentleman in the shop named Drew who took the time 
to look at some pics of my fork and determined that it "should work" - and 
it did.

My first choice is always my favorite LBS, followed by RBW - - but there 
are times when they just don't have what I'm looking for.

Steve. in Asheville, NC
On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 3:33:49 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Ben's Cycle for the win Luke ! 
>
> On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 3:07:07 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Hey all! I found one for $260 shipped, but don’t wanna pay that much if I 
>> can avoid it. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

[Steve]

And here's another rider who wore Beta Bikers back in the day with toe 
clips and straps, then Look clipless pedals with the big honkin' cleats, 
then some Speedplays till I wore them out, and finally settled on SPDs.   
(As an aside, I think the Looks were the best of any of them, but lawdy - 
those cleats!)

Then about two years ago my knees began to bother me on longer climbs. 
I geared the bike down in increments x 3, winding up with a 19" low, but no 
improvement.  Finally, this past summer in a bit of a pique I decided to 
try flat pedals. Within just a few weeks I was climbing pain free.  

I was reluctant to abandon clipping in, I like the way they promote a 
smooth spin,  but it was time for a compromise.  I maybe could have played 
with Q-factor or tried something with a few more degrees of float, but I 
found that after maybe a half dozen rides my technique adapted to the 
spiked flats. I sprang for a pair of flat MTB shoes, which I found play 
very nicely with the pedals. I'd arrived at Grant's point of view - though 
perhaps for a different reason.

So there you have it; when your knees are trying to tell you something - 
listen to 'em. 

Steve in Asheville, NC
On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 9:21:18 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> Patrick - my experiences with pedal retention or the lack thereof pretty 
> much mirrors yours, almost verbatim.  And I agree that through the years of 
> clips and straps with or without cleats, LOOK type clipless, SPD clipless, 
> and occasional dip into simple platforms with pins, I've finally settled on 
> SPD clipless as well.  And I like the dual sided pedals with an SPD 
> retention on one side and plain platform on the other.
> *However*, having said all that I would add and agree that I do not like 
> to ride without pedal retention (with the exception of one of my bikes that 
> I use for running errands in near proximity - that one has platforms).  And 
> so...blasphemous as it may sound to the ears of those in Walnut Creek, I 
> think pedal retention improves "correct pedaling."  And by that I mean the 
> ability to spin better in lower gears, the ability to "dig in" to the pedal 
> at the 7 o'clock position of a down-stroke, the ability to stand all the 
> way up tough climbs without worry about slipping a foot off a pedal - all 
> of which, in my experience is much easier on the knees, the IT band, and 
> other leg muscle groups.
> OK, I'm ready to duck for cover now...
>
> On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 7:44:43 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's 
>> out-of-context judgment.
>>
>> But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how 
>> many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use 
>> clipless systems -- and what kind.
>>
>> I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with 
>> thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on 
>> un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about 
>> 1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C 
>> with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd 
>> better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips 
>> and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty 
>> quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson 
>> Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and 
>> Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I 
>> mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb 
>> mechanism). 
>>
>> A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention 
>> shoes but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find 
>> the right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my 
>> bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps + 
>> almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found 
>> slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than 
>> Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.
>>
>> So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard 
>> to give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of 
>> my riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and 
>> loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.
>>
>> But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with 
>> them.
>>
>> Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, 

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

[George Schick]

Patrick - my experiences with pedal retention or the lack thereof pretty 
much mirrors yours, almost verbatim.  And I agree that through the years of 
clips and straps with or without cleats, LOOK type clipless, SPD clipless, 
and occasional dip into simple platforms with pins, I've finally settled on 
SPD clipless as well.  And I like the dual sided pedals with an SPD 
retention on one side and plain platform on the other.
*However*, having said all that I would add and agree that I do not like to 
ride without pedal retention (with the exception of one of my bikes that I 
use for running errands in near proximity - that one has platforms).  And 
so...blasphemous as it may sound to the ears of those in Walnut Creek, I 
think pedal retention improves "correct pedaling."  And by that I mean the 
ability to spin better in lower gears, the ability to "dig in" to the pedal 
at the 7 o'clock position of a down-stroke, the ability to stand all the 
way up tough climbs without worry about slipping a foot off a pedal - all 
of which, in my experience is much easier on the knees, the IT band, and 
other leg muscle groups.
OK, I'm ready to duck for cover now...

On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 7:44:43 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's 
> out-of-context judgment.
>
> But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how 
> many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use 
> clipless systems -- and what kind.
>
> I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with 
> thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on 
> un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about 
> 1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C 
> with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd 
> better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips 
> and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty 
> quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson 
> Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and 
> Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I 
> mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb 
> mechanism). 
>
> A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention shoes 
> but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find the 
> right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my 
> bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps + 
> almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found 
> slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than 
> Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.
>
> So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard to 
> give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of my 
> riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and 
> loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.
>
> But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with 
> them.
>
> Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.
>
> Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.
>
> -- 
>
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
> ---
>
> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing 
> services
>
>
> ---
>
> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,*
>
> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,*
>
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[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

[Wesley]

I have SPD mountain pedals on my road bike and tandem. They're very 
important for the tandem, because so much communication happens through the 
pedals. They're less essential for the road bike. I have flat pedals on my 
main (commuter) bike, but bought flat cycling shoes for my rides because 
they have stiffer soles. Chaos (my everyday footwear) are flexible enough 
at the ball of the foot that the pressure was focused on a smallish area, 
and my feet would go numb on long rides.

On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 5:44:43 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's 
> out-of-context judgment.
>
> But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how 
> many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use 
> clipless systems -- and what kind.
>
> I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with 
> thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on 
> un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about 
> 1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C 
> with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd 
> better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips 
> and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty 
> quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson 
> Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and 
> Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I 
> mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb 
> mechanism). 
>
> A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention shoes 
> but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find the 
> right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my 
> bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps + 
> almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found 
> slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than 
> Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.
>
> So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard to 
> give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of my 
> riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and 
> loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.
>
> But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with 
> them.
>
> Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.
>
> Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.
>
> -- 
>
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
> ---
>
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> services
>
>
> ---
>
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>
> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,*
>
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>

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[RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

[Patrick Moore]

First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's
out-of-context judgment.

But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how
many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use
clipless systems -- and what kind.

I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with
thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on
un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about
1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C
with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd
better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips
and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty
quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson
Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and
Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I
mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb
mechanism).

A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention shoes
but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find the
right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my
bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps +
almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found
slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than
Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.

So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard to
give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of my
riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and
loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.

But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with
them.

Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.

Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.

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Re: [RBW] FS Nitto V5 stem & 55 wide Chromo Bosco

[Richard Rose]

Nitto V5 stem has sold. Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 23, 2023, at 9:18 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:Good evening & happy holidays to all. Recent changes to my Gus cockpit have me with these two items no longer needed. V5 stem is at least 9.5 out of 10 and really a lovely item if it works with your handlebar. It requires a 100mm clamp area like the 580 aluminum Bosco. When I built my Gus I could not find this stem anywhere except from Bluelug. It was $90.00 plus about $25.00 for shipping. I am looking for $80.00 shipped. I do not have a pic of the Bosco but it is perfect. I got a really good deal on this - it was on sale at Soma - $40.00! I will try to pay it forward here - $25.00 plus shipping. These darn things can be expensive to ship but I will do my best. PM me if interested. PayPal friends & family please.https://photos.app.goo.gl/psrxgRi2VXTrkJv49



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[RBW] Re: WTB: A Riv in SF on January 3rd. Also looking for some route tips

[Kim H.]

Maybe ask Grant Petersen at Rivendell Bicycle Works ?

Kim Hetzel.

On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 12:14:55 PM UTC-8 ian m wrote:

> I haven't lived in the Bay area for some years now but as far as camping 
> you can't go wrong anywhere in Marin. My #1 pick was always Samuel P 
> Taylor, closer to the distance you're looking for, beautiful park, and a 
> chill ride there and back 
>
> On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 11:59:32 AM UTC-5 KenP wrote:
>
>> Ask Riv for a demo-loaner?
>>
>> On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 9:04:28 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>>
>>> This may be a long-shot but I figured I would try.  I am traveling to SF 
>>> this new year and my cousin and I were looking to do an overnight bike 
>>> trip, leaving from and returning to SF.  I have been a long time lurker and 
>>> poster here, and I am wondering if anyone in the SF area would consider 
>>> lending me their Rivendell (size 59-65cm) from January 3rd to January 4th.  
>>> I have decided not to pack my 63cm AHH for the journey.  I am happy to put 
>>> down collateral of sorts.  It would be a pleasure to do the bike trip on a 
>>> Rivendell, and I think any model would do.  If this is something you would 
>>> consider, please reach out and we can talk on the phone and make sure we 
>>> are both comfortable with it.
>>>
>>> Secondly, I am open to any route recommendations.  We are looking for 
>>> 30ish miles each way.  Has anyone here camped on or around Pantoll?  We 
>>> haven't reservations so we would use hiker/biker sites.  Any specific 
>>> trails ya'll would recommend? 
>>>
>>> Thank you for considering this proposal and any route tips you may have.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: A Riv in SF on January 3rd. Also looking for some route tips

[ian m]

I haven't lived in the Bay area for some years now but as far as camping 
you can't go wrong anywhere in Marin. My #1 pick was always Samuel P 
Taylor, closer to the distance you're looking for, beautiful park, and a 
chill ride there and back 

On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 11:59:32 AM UTC-5 KenP wrote:

> Ask Riv for a demo-loaner?
>
> On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 9:04:28 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>
>> This may be a long-shot but I figured I would try.  I am traveling to SF 
>> this new year and my cousin and I were looking to do an overnight bike 
>> trip, leaving from and returning to SF.  I have been a long time lurker and 
>> poster here, and I am wondering if anyone in the SF area would consider 
>> lending me their Rivendell (size 59-65cm) from January 3rd to January 4th.  
>> I have decided not to pack my 63cm AHH for the journey.  I am happy to put 
>> down collateral of sorts.  It would be a pleasure to do the bike trip on a 
>> Rivendell, and I think any model would do.  If this is something you would 
>> consider, please reach out and we can talk on the phone and make sure we 
>> are both comfortable with it.
>>
>> Secondly, I am open to any route recommendations.  We are looking for 
>> 30ish miles each way.  Has anyone here camped on or around Pantoll?  We 
>> haven't reservations so we would use hiker/biker sites.  Any specific 
>> trails ya'll would recommend? 
>>
>> Thank you for considering this proposal and any route tips you may have.
>>
>> James
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Sam Hillbourne 62cm $500

[Minh]

Make sure you click thru all the pictures.  Pretty decent dent on rear seat 
stay. 
On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 6:21:40 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> Interesting it has a canti fork and caliper brakes in the rear. I wonder 
> if the fork was replaced due to a crash, or they just wanted stronger 
> brakes?
>
> Eric
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:11 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1389606294980753/
>>
>> 52 minutes ago in Nashville, TN
>>
>> no personal interest.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
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[RBW] Re: WTB: A Riv in SF on January 3rd. Also looking for some route tips

[KenP]

Ask Riv for a demo-loaner?

On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 9:04:28 PM UTC-5 James wrote:

> This may be a long-shot but I figured I would try.  I am traveling to SF 
> this new year and my cousin and I were looking to do an overnight bike 
> trip, leaving from and returning to SF.  I have been a long time lurker and 
> poster here, and I am wondering if anyone in the SF area would consider 
> lending me their Rivendell (size 59-65cm) from January 3rd to January 4th.  
> I have decided not to pack my 63cm AHH for the journey.  I am happy to put 
> down collateral of sorts.  It would be a pleasure to do the bike trip on a 
> Rivendell, and I think any model would do.  If this is something you would 
> consider, please reach out and we can talk on the phone and make sure we 
> are both comfortable with it.
>
> Secondly, I am open to any route recommendations.  We are looking for 
> 30ish miles each way.  Has anyone here camped on or around Pantoll?  We 
> haven't reservations so we would use hiker/biker sites.  Any specific 
> trails ya'll would recommend? 
>
> Thank you for considering this proposal and any route tips you may have.
>
> James
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Stuff Day

[Steve]

Matt in STL - thanks for the compliment. The Ruthworks rando bag is 
constructed with a sleeve that the 'tombstone loop'  on the rack slips up 
into - it's a fairly snug fit. The underside of the bag is then secured to 
the rack with velcro straps. It was perfectly stable on its maiden voyage, 
even on a long fire road descent.  If it loosens up over time, it does have 
a loop for an additional strap on the underside. What appears to be an 
anchor is a small carabiner that I added to make it easier to secure the 
closure for the top flap - the bars sit too far above the 8" bag to secure 
it over the stem in traditional rando fashion, though I may play around 
with attaching a ring to the neck of the stem. If you're not familiar with 
Ruthworks, it's a one man operation in San Francisco - 
https://www.ruthworkssf.com   
On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 3:02:30 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

>
> Wow it looks great. I didn’t even see the fenders until you pointed them 
> out. By being understated, the graceful frame is more of a standout.  I 
> haven’t thought of taking my Platy off road, but perhaps I will now. 
> Roberta 
> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 9:52:21 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I spent the morning mounting up some bike stuff I've been acquiring 
>> recently. A B-17 to replace it's predecessor a C-17 (not a bad saddle, but 
>> not in the same comfort league as the B models, though your keister may 
>> differ); 42mm RH 650b slicks (stepping up from 38s); a Nitto M-12 (I 
>> worried it might collide with the V-brake cable but it fit !); and lastly, 
>> a Ruthworks 8" Rando bag (love at first sight). 
>> Grabbed some lunch and headed out for a few miles of forest service road, 
>> a stretch on the Blue Ridge Parkway and a bit of smooth single track.The 
>> weather was perfect..
>>
>> -- I've only been riding the Platypus since mid-summer and had considered 
>> it to be more of a pavement/rail trail bike. Today's ride opened my eyes to 
>> just how capable this thing is.  
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> [image: 35912B89-A62C-4073-8C64-96850F581815.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: 22892EC1-62D1-49E3-9A10-E1EE7A6B0F42.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: 251A34BC-59A6-4FEA-AA29-F3A25879C6F4.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: 08CD7D59-77A7-4FB9-8BA8-D95C65B6C116.jpeg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Sam Hillbourne 62cm $500

[Eric Daume]

Interesting it has a canti fork and caliper brakes in the rear. I wonder if
the fork was replaced due to a crash, or they just wanted stronger brakes?

Eric

On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:11 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1389606294980753/
>
> 52 minutes ago in Nashville, TN
>
> no personal interest.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB – Nitto 34F Rack

[Garth]

Ben's Cycle for the win Luke ! 

On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 3:07:07 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Hey all! I found one for $260 shipped, but don’t wanna pay that much if I 
> can avoid it. 

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[RBW] WTB – Nitto 34F Rack

[Luke Hendrickson]

Hey all! I found one for $260 shipped, but don’t wanna pay that much if I 
can avoid it. 

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Stuff Day

[Roberta]

Wow it looks great. I didn’t even see the fenders until you pointed them 
out. By being understated, the graceful frame is more of a standout.  I 
haven’t thought of taking my Platy off road, but perhaps I will now. 
Roberta 
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 9:52:21 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> I spent the morning mounting up some bike stuff I've been acquiring 
> recently. A B-17 to replace it's predecessor a C-17 (not a bad saddle, but 
> not in the same comfort league as the B models, though your keister may 
> differ); 42mm RH 650b slicks (stepping up from 38s); a Nitto M-12 (I 
> worried it might collide with the V-brake cable but it fit !); and lastly, 
> a Ruthworks 8" Rando bag (love at first sight). 
> Grabbed some lunch and headed out for a few miles of forest service road, 
> a stretch on the Blue Ridge Parkway and a bit of smooth single track.The 
> weather was perfect..
>
> -- I've only been riding the Platypus since mid-summer and had considered 
> it to be more of a pavement/rail trail bike. Today's ride opened my eyes to 
> just how capable this thing is.  
>
> Steve
>
> [image: 35912B89-A62C-4073-8C64-96850F581815.jpeg]
>
> [image: 22892EC1-62D1-49E3-9A10-E1EE7A6B0F42.jpeg]
>
> [image: 251A34BC-59A6-4FEA-AA29-F3A25879C6F4.jpeg]
>
> [image: 08CD7D59-77A7-4FB9-8BA8-D95C65B6C116.jpeg]
>

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