Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Prasad K]

On 14/02/18 11:26 AM, James wrote:

On 02/14/2018 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 13:06, James wrote:

$ cat .config/mimeapps.list
[Added Associations]



You have

x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop; 

x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop; 


x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop
x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop

in that file.

try deleting the first 2 and then restart T-Bird and try again.


still no go... i dont get this at all. what else is there?
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See this link: 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Changing_the_web_browser_invoked_by_Thunderbird


It has a way to launch a browser of choice when clicking links. I used 
this method to invoke my "not system default" browser and it is working 
fine so far.


--- snip from kb ---
You used to do this by setting the path for the browser with 
the*network.protocol-handler.app.http*and*network.protocol-handler.app.https*settings. 
While that setting is normally associated with Linux, it worked under 
Windows and OS X too. With recent versions you need to 
set*network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http*and*network.protocol-handler.warn-external.https*true 
and chose the desired browser from a popup window instead.

--- snip from kb ---

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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/14/2018 01:01 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 13:56, James wrote:

On 02/14/2018 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 13:06, James wrote:

$ cat .config/mimeapps.list
[Added Associations]



You have

x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;

x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop;

x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop
x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop

in that file.

try deleting the first 2 and then restart T-Bird and try again.


still no go... i dont get this at all. what else is there?



Yeah, I just tried using your file on my VM and it works fine for me.

Well, at this point one thing I would do is create a new user on the system and 
use
it to start T-Bird and define a email account and test in a "clean" environment.

Oh, and one more thing before you do that

Exit T-Bird
Start T-Bird
And then do the strace followed by clicking on the link.

Need to see if it ever reads the mimeapps file.




ok, thank you Ed, appreciate the help
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 13:56, James wrote:
> On 02/14/2018 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/14/18 13:06, James wrote:
>>> $ cat .config/mimeapps.list
>>> [Added Associations]
>>
>>
>> You have
>>
>> x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;
>>
>> x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop;
>>
>> x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop
>> x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop
>>
>> in that file.
>>
>> try deleting the first 2 and then restart T-Bird and try again.
>>
> still no go... i dont get this at all. what else is there?
>

Yeah, I just tried using your file on my VM and it works fine for me.

Well, at this point one thing I would do is create a new user on the system and 
use
it to start T-Bird and define a email account and test in a "clean" environment.

Oh, and one more thing before you do that

Exit T-Bird
Start T-Bird
And then do the strace followed by clicking on the link.

Need to see if it ever reads the mimeapps file.



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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/14/2018 12:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 13:06, James wrote:

$ cat .config/mimeapps.list
[Added Associations]



You have

x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop
x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop

in that file.

try deleting the first 2 and then restart T-Bird and try again.


still no go... i dont get this at all. what else is there?
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 13:06, James wrote:
> $ cat .config/mimeapps.list
> [Added Associations] 


You have

x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop
x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop

in that file.

try deleting the first 2 and then restart T-Bird and try again.

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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/14/2018 12:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

cat .config/mimeapps.list


$ cat .config/mimeapps.list
[Added Associations]
application/rss+xml=thunderbird.desktop;
application/x-extension-htm=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;
application/x-extension-html=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;
application/x-extension-rss=thunderbird.desktop;
application/x-extension-shtml=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;
application/x-extension-xht=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;
application/x-extension-xhtml=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;
application/xhtml+xml=firefox.desktop;userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop;
audio/3gpp=vlc.desktop;
audio/3gpp2=vlc.desktop;
audio/AMR=vlc.desktop;
audio/AMR-WB=vlc.desktop;
audio/aac=vlc.desktop;
audio/ac3=vlc.desktop;
audio/basic=vlc.desktop;
audio/dv=vlc.desktop;
audio/eac3=vlc.desktop;
audio/flac=vlc.desktop;
audio/m4a=vlc.desktop;
audio/midi=vlc.desktop;
audio/mp1=vlc.desktop;
audio/mp2=vlc.desktop;
audio/mp3=vlc.desktop;
audio/mp4=vlc.desktop;
audio/mpeg=vlc.desktop;
audio/mpegurl=vlc.desktop;
audio/mpg=vlc.desktop;
audio/ogg=vlc.desktop;
audio/opus=vlc.desktop;
audio/scpls=vlc.desktop;
audio/vnd.dolby.heaac.1=vlc.desktop;
audio/vnd.dolby.heaac.2=vlc.desktop;
audio/vnd.dolby.mlp=vlc.desktop;
audio/vnd.dts=vlc.desktop;
audio/vnd.dts.hd=vlc.desktop;
audio/vnd.rn-realaudio=vlc.desktop;
audio/vorbis=vlc.desktop;
audio/wav=vlc.desktop;
audio/webm=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-aac=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-adpcm=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-aiff=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-ape=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-flac=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-gsm=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-it=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-m4a=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-matroska=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-mod=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-mp1=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-mp2=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-mp3=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-mpeg=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-mpegurl=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-mpg=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-ms-asf=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-ms-asx=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-ms-wax=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-ms-wma=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-musepack=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-pn-aiff=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-pn-au=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-pn-realaudio=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-pn-wav=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-pn-windows-acm=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-real-audio=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-realaudio=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-s3m=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-scpls=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-shorten=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-speex=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-tta=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-vorbis=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-wav=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-wavpack=vlc.desktop;
audio/x-xm=vlc.desktop;
image/bmp=org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/gif=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/png=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/tiff=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/webp=org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-bmp=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;
image/x-dcraw=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;
image/x-eps=org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-ico=org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-portable-bitmap=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-portable-graymap=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-portable-pixmap=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-psd=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-webp=org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-xbitmap=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
image/x-xpixmap=org.kde.showfoto.desktop;org.kde.gwenview.desktop;
message/rfc822=mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;thunderbird.desktop;
text/calendar=org.gnome.Calendar.desktop;
text/html=userapp-Nightly-FCZ06Y.desktop;mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;chromium-browser.desktop;
text/xml=chromium-browser.desktop;
video/3gp=vlc.desktop;
video/3gpp=vlc.desktop;
video/3gpp2=vlc.desktop;
video/avi=vlc.desktop;
video/divx=vlc.desktop;
video/dv=vlc.desktop;
video/fli=vlc.desktop;
video/flv=vlc.desktop;
video/mp2t=vlc.desktop;
video/mp4=vlc.desktop;
video/mp4v-es=vlc.desktop;
video/mpeg=vlc.desktop;
video/mpeg-system=vlc.desktop;
video/msvideo=vlc.desktop;
video/ogg=vlc.desktop;
video/quicktime=vlc.desktop;
video/vnd.divx=vlc.desktop;
video/vnd.mpegurl=vlc.desktop;
video/vnd.rn-realvideo=vlc.desktop;
video/webm=vlc.desktop;
video/x-anim=vlc.desktop;
video/x-avi=vlc.desktop;
video/x-flc=vlc.desktop;
video/x-fli=vlc.desktop;
video/x-flv=vlc.desktop;
video/x-m4v=vlc.desktop;
video/x-matroska=vlc.desktop;
video/x-mpeg=vlc.desktop;
video/x-mpeg-system=vlc.desktop;
video/x-mpeg2=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ms-asf=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ms-asf-plugin=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ms-asx=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ms-wm=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ms-wmv=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ms-wmx=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ms-wvx=vlc.desktop;
video/x-msvideo=vlc.desktop;
video/x-nsv=vlc.desktop;
video/x-ogm=vlc.desktop;
video/x-theora=vlc.desktop;
video/x-theora+ogg=vlc.desktop;

Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 13:00, James wrote:
> the one i posted was already open, a new one is about 2600 lines. 


Sorry, I wasn't clear   The file I'm asking you to post is 
.config/mimeapps.list

Mine is...

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ cat .config/mimeapps.list
[Added Associations]
application/pdf=okularApplication_pdf.desktop;evince.desktop;AdobeReader.desktop;libreoffice-draw.desktop;gimp.desktop;livna-xv.desktop;xpdf.desktop;
message/rfc822=mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;evolution.desktop;kmail_view.desktop;org.kde.kwrite.desktop;org.kde.kate.desktop;org.gnome.gedit.desktop;libreoffice-writer.desktop;okularApplication_txt.desktop;emacs.desktop;nedit.desktop;

[Default Applications]
application/pdf=okularApplication_pdf.desktop;
message/rfc822=mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;
text/html=google-chrome.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/http=google-chrome.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/https=google-chrome.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/magnet=ktorrent.desktop;
x-scheme-handler/mailto=mozilla-thunderbird.desktop;

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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 11:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 12:29, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 11:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 11:52, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org


no error(s) and it opens the url



OK

Could you bring up T-bird.  Then find out the PID of
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird process.

Then in a terminal session do

strace -p  -o somefile

And then click on a link.

Then ctrl-C the strace command to quit it.  Then examine what is in the 
"somefile" to
see if you can find anything of interest or upload it so it can be checked.

Also, it seems from my testing, that T-bird gets the information as to what 
launch
from your .config/mimeapps.list.  Can you post yours?

The relevant portion from my strace shows

openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/kde-mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = -1 
ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=828, ...}) = 0
read(79, "[Added Associations]\napplication"..., 4096) = 828
read(79, "", 4096)  = 0
close(79)   = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8392, ...}) = 0



https://pastebin.com/ZyG6GnBJ




Well, that's odd.  Your strace file shows no occurrence of "mimeapps" or 
"firefox".

That would seem to suggest there is some sort of T-Bird setting getting in the 
way.
Or, potentially, an extension.but I don't see any indication of an extension
being called.

I just noticed that in my running T-Bird which I had already opened links from 
it
doesn't re-read the ~/.config/mimeapps.list file.  (My previous test was in a VM
where T-bird was just started and no link had been clicked on)

So, could you post yours?




the one i posted was already open, a new one is about 2600 lines.
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 12:29, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 11:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/14/18 11:52, James wrote:
>>> On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org
>>>
>>> no error(s) and it opens the url
>>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>> Could you bring up T-bird.  Then find out the PID of
>> /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird process.
>>
>> Then in a terminal session do
>>
>> strace -p  -o somefile
>>
>> And then click on a link.
>>
>> Then ctrl-C the strace command to quit it.  Then examine what is in the 
>> "somefile" to
>> see if you can find anything of interest or upload it so it can be checked.
>>
>> Also, it seems from my testing, that T-bird gets the information as to what 
>> launch
>> from your .config/mimeapps.list.  Can you post yours?
>>
>> The relevant portion from my strace shows
>>
>> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/kde-mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = -1 
>> ENOENT
>> (No such file or directory)
>> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = 79
>> fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=828, ...}) = 0
>> read(79, "[Added Associations]\napplication"..., 4096) = 828
>> read(79, "", 4096)  = 0
>> close(79)   = 0
>> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop", O_RDONLY) 
>> = 79
>> fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8392, ...}) = 0
>>
>
> https://pastebin.com/ZyG6GnBJ
>
>

Well, that's odd.  Your strace file shows no occurrence of "mimeapps" or 
"firefox". 

That would seem to suggest there is some sort of T-Bird setting getting in the 
way. 
Or, potentially, an extension.but I don't see any indication of an extension
being called.

I just noticed that in my running T-Bird which I had already opened links from 
it
doesn't re-read the ~/.config/mimeapps.list file.  (My previous test was in a VM
where T-bird was just started and no link had been clicked on)

So, could you post yours?


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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 11:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 11:52, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org


no error(s) and it opens the url



OK

Could you bring up T-bird.  Then find out the PID of
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird process.

Then in a terminal session do

strace -p  -o somefile

And then click on a link.

Then ctrl-C the strace command to quit it.  Then examine what is in the 
"somefile" to
see if you can find anything of interest or upload it so it can be checked.

Also, it seems from my testing, that T-bird gets the information as to what 
launch
from your .config/mimeapps.list.  Can you post yours?

The relevant portion from my strace shows

openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/kde-mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = -1 
ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=828, ...}) = 0
read(79, "[Added Associations]\napplication"..., 4096) = 828
read(79, "", 4096)  = 0
close(79)   = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8392, ...}) = 0



this seems a mess :(
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 11:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 11:52, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org


no error(s) and it opens the url



OK

Could you bring up T-bird.  Then find out the PID of
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird process.

Then in a terminal session do

strace -p  -o somefile

And then click on a link.

Then ctrl-C the strace command to quit it.  Then examine what is in the 
"somefile" to
see if you can find anything of interest or upload it so it can be checked.

Also, it seems from my testing, that T-bird gets the information as to what 
launch
from your .config/mimeapps.list.  Can you post yours?

The relevant portion from my strace shows

openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/kde-mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = -1 
ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=828, ...}) = 0
read(79, "[Added Associations]\napplication"..., 4096) = 828
read(79, "", 4096)  = 0
close(79)   = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8392, ...}) = 0



https://pastebin.com/ZyG6GnBJ

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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 11:52, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org
>
> no error(s) and it opens the url
>

OK

Could you bring up T-bird.  Then find out the PID of
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird process.

Then in a terminal session do

strace -p  -o somefile

And then click on a link. 

Then ctrl-C the strace command to quit it.  Then examine what is in the 
"somefile" to
see if you can find anything of interest or upload it so it can be checked.

Also, it seems from my testing, that T-bird gets the information as to what 
launch
from your .config/mimeapps.list.  Can you post yours?

The relevant portion from my strace shows

openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/kde-mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = -1 
ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/egreshko/.config/mimeapps.list", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=828, ...}) = 0
read(79, "[Added Associations]\napplication"..., 4096) = 828
read(79, "", 4096)  = 0
close(79)   = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop", O_RDONLY) = 79
fstat(79, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8392, ...}) = 0


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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 10:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

xdg-openhttp://fedoraproject.org


no error(s) and it opens the url
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 11:27, James wrote:
>> OK   If you run
>>
>> gtk-launch firefox.desktop    does firefox start?
>>
> Yes, it does. On the term, it includes this:
>
> ###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel] Error:
> (msgtype=0x150084,name=PBrowser::Msg_Destroy) Closed channel: cannot send/recv
>
>
> ###!!! [Child][MessageChannel] Error:
> (msgtype=0x150001,name=PBrowser::Msg_AsyncMessage) Closed channel: cannot 
> send/recv 


Hummm  When I do the gtk-launch it simply launches FF and exits.

I've never seen that error message before.

Does...

xdg-open http://fedoraproject.org

produce a similar error?  And does it open the URL?

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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 10:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 11:12, James wrote:

I don't this very often so I keep forgetting how things work, or don't work.

I rediscovered that one cannot separately set the  default-url-scheme-handler.
Setting the default-web-browser will alter those.

That being said, I just switched back and forth between google-chrome.desktop 
and
firefox.desktop and links in T-Bird would start the configured browser.

Do you happen to have a

~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop file?



no, I do not.



OK   If you run

gtk-launch firefox.desktop    does firefox start?


Yes, it does. On the term, it includes this:

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel] Error: 
(msgtype=0x150084,name=PBrowser::Msg_Destroy) Closed channel: cannot 
send/recv



###!!! [Child][MessageChannel] Error: 
(msgtype=0x150001,name=PBrowser::Msg_AsyncMessage) Closed channel: 
cannot send/recv




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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 11:12, James wrote:
>> I don't this very often so I keep forgetting how things work, or don't work.
>>
>> I rediscovered that one cannot separately set the  
>> default-url-scheme-handler.
>> Setting the default-web-browser will alter those.
>>
>> That being said, I just switched back and forth between 
>> google-chrome.desktop and
>> firefox.desktop and links in T-Bird would start the configured browser.
>>
>> Do you happen to have a
>>
>> ~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop file?
>>
>>
> no, I do not. 


OK   If you run

gtk-launch firefox.desktop    does firefox start?

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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 10:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 10:57, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 09:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 10:25, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 09:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

What does

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https

return


Firefox.Desktop


I wonder if this is case sensitive.

Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead




That was my bad. I did that in the email. :/


OK

How about

xdg-settings get default-web-browser




firefox.desktop



I don't this very often so I keep forgetting how things work, or don't work.

I rediscovered that one cannot separately set the  default-url-scheme-handler.
Setting the default-web-browser will alter those.

That being said, I just switched back and forth between google-chrome.desktop 
and
firefox.desktop and links in T-Bird would start the configured browser.

Do you happen to have a

~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop file?



no, I do not.
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 10:57, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 09:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/14/18 10:25, James wrote:
>>> On 02/13/2018 09:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> What does
>>
>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and
>>
>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https
>>
>> return
>
> Firefox.Desktop

 I wonder if this is case sensitive.

 Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead



>>> That was my bad. I did that in the email. :/
>>
>> OK
>>
>> How about
>>
>> xdg-settings get default-web-browser
>>
>>
>>
> firefox.desktop
>

I don't this very often so I keep forgetting how things work, or don't work.

I rediscovered that one cannot separately set the  default-url-scheme-handler. 
Setting the default-web-browser will alter those.

That being said, I just switched back and forth between google-chrome.desktop 
and
firefox.desktop and links in T-Bird would start the configured browser.

Do you happen to have a

~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop file?



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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 09:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 10:25, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 09:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

What does

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https

return


Firefox.Desktop


I wonder if this is case sensitive.

Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead




That was my bad. I did that in the email. :/


OK

How about

xdg-settings get default-web-browser




firefox.desktop
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 10:25, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 09:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote:
>>> On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 What does

 xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and

 xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https

 return
>>>
>>> Firefox.Desktop
>>
>> I wonder if this is case sensitive.
>>
>> Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead
>>
>>
>>
> That was my bad. I did that in the email. :/ 

OK

How about

xdg-settings get default-web-browser

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Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/13/2018 01:57 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
This surprises me, as this is saying the home plug device is only 
running at 100 Mbps, but it is packaged as 500 Mbps and the device 
itself has 500 Mbps physically stamped on the front of it. I did set the 
manual configuration to 500 Mbps and full duplex, and when I turned on 
auto negotiate and then switched it off, the link speed was reset to 100 
Mbps.


Welcome to the world of marketing.  I assume the protocol can do that 
speed, but the ethernet port on the device can only handle up to 100. 
The ethernet card in your computer can only do 10, 100, 1000 Mbps. 
There are no other options.  You can't do 500Mbps and the other side has 
already said it doesn't support 1000.

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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 09:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote:

On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

What does

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https

return


Firefox.Desktop


I wonder if this is case sensitive.

Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead




That was my bad. I did that in the email. :/
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 10:19, James wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> What does
>>
>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and
>>
>> xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https
>>
>> return
>
> Firefox.Desktop 

I wonder if this is case sensitive.

Try setting it to firefox.desktop instead

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Re: F27 tracker-preferences missing?

[Christopher]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:21 PM Dario Lesca  wrote:

> Il giorno lun, 12/02/2018 alle 03.03 +, Christopher ha scritto:
>
> So... I just did a fresh install of F27, and I can't seem to find
> tracker-preferences, so I can disable the annoying document indexer that
> keeps crawling my drives. Anybody have any insight into why this is missing
> from F27, or a workaround to effectively disable the thing?
>
>
> Then I'm not the only one to find annoying tracker ... useful like a bee
> into helmet.
>
> as it is not possible to remove it, I disable tracker globally for all
> users:
>
> $ sudo dnf remove tracker-miners
>
> $ sudo sed -i
> 's/X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=.*/X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false/'
> /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-store.desktop
>
> $ yes|LANG=C tracker reset --hard
>
> Note: when tracker will be update, the 
> /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-store.desktop
> file it will not replaced and the new desktop file will be renamed with
> .rpmnew extension
>
> Hope this help
>
>
FWIW, I also found there's new menu options for search in the GNOME
settings, where I can control some of its behavior... but not all the old
options are there... and it's not quite clear how the new options relate to
the old ones. It's nice that gsettings can control all the options... but
it is in no way a substitute for a good GUI.
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Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

On 02/13/2018 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

What does

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https

return


Firefox.Desktop
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Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

[Rick Stevens]

On 02/13/2018 01:57 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 13/2/18 8:51 am, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/13/18 05:43, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>> I am using a home plug device to get ethernet access across the home
>>> electrical
>>> wires. The home plug device is provide 500 Mb/s, so having seen this
>>> thread I've
>>> checked my ethernet configuration and like Terry is saying my
>>> settings have auto
>>> negotiate unchecked and the link speed is set at 100 Mb/s and Half
>>> Duplex. I have
>>> not explicitly set that configuration but what I don't know, because
>>> I haven't
>>> really taken any notice of it as I only use this connection as a
>>> backup to
>>> wireless, is whether or not those settings have always been there. I
>>> have done any
>>> changes to the configuration since I set it up in F26.
>>
>> One can always use
>>
>> ethtool  to determine what is available and what the
>> current settings are...
>>
>> This is the view from the Fedora side
>>
>> This is what the Fedora side it telling the outside world what the HW
>> supports
>>
>>  Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>>  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>>  1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
>>
>> This is what the device that the Fedora system is connected to is 
>> saying what it
>> supports.
>>
>>
>>  Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>>   100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>>   1000baseT/Full
>>
>> FWIW, I have never seen an advertised link speed of 500 Mb/s.
> 
> I ran the ethtool command and received the following output:
> 
> ethtool enp7s0
> Settings for enp7s0:
>     Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
>     Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>     100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>     1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
>     Supported pause frame use: No
>     Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
>     Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>     100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>     1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
>     Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
>     Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
>     Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>     Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
>     Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
>     Speed: 100Mb/s
>     Duplex: Full
>     Port: MII
>     PHYAD: 0
>     Transceiver: internal
>     Auto-negotiation: on
> Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted
>     Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
>    drv probe ifdown ifup
>     Link detected: yes
> 
> This surprises me, as this is saying the home plug device is only
> running at 100 Mbps, but it is packaged as 500 Mbps and the device
> itself has 500 Mbps physically stamped on the front of it. I did set the
> manual configuration to 500 Mbps and full duplex, and when I turned on
> auto negotiate and then switched it off, the link speed was reset to 100
> Mbps.

The fact that the link partner advertises 10 and 100baseT, either full
or half duplex indicates that 100baseT/Full is the max it can do (at
least on that port). Typically, a switch won't advertise a higher speed
than it can do. It can, however, connect at a lower speed than it
advertises. In other words, 10Mbps and 100Mbps aren't the _only_ speeds
it can do, but it can't go above 100Mbps on that port.

As an example, I have some HP gear that has a segmentable 10Gbps switch
where I've divvied up its 10Gbps bandwidth into three VLANs, two at
4.5Gbps and one at 1Gbps. Looking at the interfaces of one of the
machines connected to one of the 4.5Gbps VLANs, you find this:

[root@seg3-r0 ~]# ethtool eth2
Settings for eth2:
Supported ports: [ TP ]
Supported link modes:   1000baseT/Full
   1baseT/Full
Supports auto-negotiation: No
Advertised link modes:  1000baseT/Full
1baseT/Full
Advertised auto-negotiation: No
Speed: 4500Mb/s
Duplex: Full
Port: Twisted Pair
PHYAD: 1
Transceiver: internal
Auto-negotiation: on
Supports Wake-on: g
Wake-on: g
Link detected: yes

Note that the host can do 1000baseT/Full and 1baseT/Full. I'm not
sure if the switch advertises (I'm sure it does but the host I'm looking
at is an ancient CentOS 5 machine so its ethtool output may be different
than current versions). That being said, the actual speed of the link
is 4500Mbps (4.5Gbps), which is what I expect over that link. Before you
ask, it's not really twisted pair, it's a 

[389-users] Re: TLS Error -8179

[William Brown]

On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 00:06 +, Eric Wheeler wrote:
> Thanks for the response. I think I've gotten this resolved. My
> primary problem was lack of understanding of issuer root and
> intermediate files. I was strictly using the files sent to me by the
> certificate authority when what appears to be needed is the publicly
> available intermediate CA file (which neither of my issuers have sent
> me). Up until now, almost all of my experience with certificates has
> been over HTTPS, and I've never had to deal with intermediate files
> to achieve secure connections. The weird thing is that prior to my
> implementation of the correct file, ldapsearch was showing a good
> LDAPS connection while restarting dirsrv continuously failed.
>  
> In response to your question, what was consistently showing the -8179
> error was restarting dirsrv. I was getting good LDAPS connections
> with ldapsearch and openssl s_client -connect :636. Once I
> imported the intermediate file into the database as ca_cert, then
> dirsrv showed good TLS connections.

Ahhh I didn't realise this.

For NSS to serve the certificate (and openssl for that matter) you have
to present the entire *chain*.

So if you have:

CA -> intermediate -> your cert

You need both CA + intermediate in your DB to present the whole chain
so that clients can validate back to the CA.

This is true of webservers two, and you often can just include the
chain as a series of pem certs in a single file.

So that makes sense why you were having this trouble. I wonder if there
is a way we can report the error better in DS? Can you raise a but that
this error should give better output to the admin so you can diagnose
the issue faster? 

Thanks! 

>  
> > -Original message-
> > From: William Brown
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11 2018, 6:37 pm
> > To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
> > Subject: [389-users] Re: TLS Error -8179
> >  
> > Sorry for the very late response, I have been unwell on away from
> > the
> > computer.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2018-02-06 at 05:34 +, Eric Wheeler wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >  
> > > I'm a new 389 Directory Server user on an Amazon Linux 1 EC2
> > > platform. I got the server launched without much issue, but then
> > hit
> > > a wall when I imported certificates and turned on SSL.
> > Essentially
> > > I'm getting the error message.
> > >  
> > > TLS error -8179: Peer's Certificate issuer is not recognized.
> > 
> > What showed this error? ldapsearch?
> > 
> > Restarting dirsrv showed the error, i.e.
> > 
> > >  
> > > I'm fairly convinced it's an issue with certificate importation
> > > and/or configuration because the certificate I'm using is a valid
> > and
> > > current one. The following commands both resolve successfully.
> > >  
> > > ldapsearch -H ldap://:389 -D 'cn=Directory Manager' -W -Z
> > -b
> > > 'cn=encryption,cn=config' -x -d1
> > > openssl s_client -connect :636
> > >  
> > > The ldapsearch command shows a valid certificate and openssl
> > resolves
> > > to "Verify return code: 0 (ok)."
> > >  
> > > These are authenticating against the pem file at
> > > /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt 
> > 
> > You need to configure openldap libs with a CA: check
> > /etc/openldap/ldap.conf and the TLS_CACERT parameter for a single
> > pem
> > file to trust as the root, or TLS_CACERTDIR for a hashed directory
> > of
> > certificates (IE put the .pem files in the CACERTDIR then run
> > "openssl
> > rehash /path/to/cacertdir")
> > 
> > ldapsearch/ldapwhoami generally takes a -d flag too which can help
> > debug these issues too.
> > 
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > In order to get 389 DS over LDAPS working, I followed a
> > combination
> > > of instructions I found on pages http://directory.fedoraproject.o
> > rg/d
> > > ocs/389ds/howto/howto-ssl.html  and http://directory.fedoraprojec
> > t.or
> > > g/docs/389ds/FAQ/faq.html.
> > >  
> > > Here are my steps.
> > >  
> > > 1. Stop dirsrv
> > >  
> > > service dirsrv stop
> > >  
> > > 2. Reset the database:
> > >  
> > > certutil -N -d /etc/dirsrv/slapd-
> > >  
> > > 3. Import my CA file
> > >  
> > > certutil -A -d /etc/dirsrv/slapd- -n "ca_cert" -t
> > "CT,,"
> > > -i /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt -a
> > >  
> > > 4. Transfer my pem cert and key files to pkcs12 format for
> > > importation
> > >  
> > > openssl pkcs12 -export -inkey /etc/pki/tls/private/mykey.key -in
> > > /etc/pki/tls/certs/mycert.crt -out /home/diradmin/mykeycert.p12
> > -name
> > > "Server-Cert"
> > >  
> > > 5. Use pk12util to import
> > >  
> > > pk12util -d /etc/dirsrv/slapd- -n "Server-Cert" -i
> > > /home/diradmin/mykeycert.p12
> > >  
> > > 6. Edit dse.ldif
> > >  
> > > Add the following line to the object dn: cn=config.
> > >  nsslapd-security: on
> > >  
> > > The object dn: cn=encryption,cn=config should contain the
> > following
> > > lines. Remove any of the parameters sslVersionMin, sslVersionMax,
> > and
> > > nsSSL3Ciphers.
> > >  dn: 

Re: thunderbird not linking urls

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 07:54, James wrote:
> hello, i have thunderbird and when i click on url, it is dead. it wont 
> connect to
> my default browser, firefox. I have done web searching for this and have found
> nothing that works. i have to copy the link and paste it in firefox. anyone 
> have an
> idea? 


What does

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler http and

xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler https

return

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Re: off topic -- vm issues

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/13/2018 01:27 PM, bruce wrote:

For the "/etc"  what files/dirs would you suggest to be copied from
the base to the target??


That really depends on what the server is doing.  What services are you 
running on it?  For example, if you're running Apache, then you'll want 
the /etc/httpd directories.  There are usually very few config files you 
need to copy over, mostly it's just data.

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thunderbird not linking urls

[James]

hello, i have thunderbird and when i click on url, it is dead. it wont 
connect to my default browser, firefox. I have done web searching for 
this and have found nothing that works. i have to copy the link and 
paste it in firefox. anyone have an idea?


Jim
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Re: Problems with vlc

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 08:08 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> So from my perspective the vlc package you had problems with works fine 
> on my system.
> 
> The packages I have installed are:
> 
> 
> bash-4.4$ rpm -qa vlc*
> vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64
> vlc-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64

When using Negativo17 I never had a package called vlc, just vlc-core
and vlc-extras. The /usr/bin/vlc binary came from vlc-core. On
switching to RPMfusion I now have a package called vlc. So I wonder if
your installation is in fact from Negativo17.

poc
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Re: F27 tracker-preferences missing?

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno lun, 12/02/2018 alle 03.03 +, Christopher ha scritto:
> So... I just did a fresh install of F27, and I can't seem to find
> tracker-preferences, so I can disable the annoying document indexer
> that keeps crawling my drives. Anybody have any insight into why this
> is missing from F27, or a workaround to effectively disable the
> thing?

Then I'm not the only one to find annoying tracker ... useful like a
bee into helmet.

as it is not possible to remove it, I disable tracker globally for all
users:

$ sudo dnf remove tracker-miners


$ sudo sed -i 's/X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=.*/X-GNOME-Autostart-
enabled=false/' /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-store.desktop


$ yes|LANG=C tracker reset --hard


Note: when tracker will be update, the /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-
store.desktop file it will not replaced and the new desktop file will
be renamed with .rpmnew extension


Hope this help


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Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 05:35, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 13/2/18 9:42 am, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/13/18 05:46, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>> Just further to this, on my system when the auto negotiate box is checked 
>>> the link
>>> entry and the duplex entry are removed from the dialog.
>>
>> Which makes perfect sense, right?
>>
>> If the negotiation is automatic then displaying the manual choices would be 
>> confusing
>> don't you think?
>
> I was just surprised that it did that as I'm used to environments where, when 
> doing
> the same thing, the manual entries are ghosted rather than removed. I was also
> confused by this when in your previous thread you said you thought that you 
> may
> still have to have auto negotiate checked for configuration changes to be 
> saved.
>
>
Different GUI developers do things in different ways.  Not a big deal to me.

The BZ about changes not taking was 1492378.  Don't know if it is fixed.  Feel 
free
to test it.

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Re: Problems with vlc

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/14/18 05:23, Stephen Morris wrote:
> I use Negativo17 because in the past I have found that rpmfusion were very 
> tardy
> with their Nvidia binary files in keeping pace with kernel version changes. I 
> have
> all the negativo17 repositories enabled and all the rpmfusion repositories 
> enabled,
> so far without any apparent conflicts, which may just be luck on my part. 


You know, if you use akmod-nvidia from rpmfusion you don't have to worry about a
binary being available in the repo as the binary will be built locally on your 
own
system when a new kernel is installed.

Simple, easy.  No muss, no fuss.

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Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

[Stephen Morris]

On 13/2/18 8:51 am, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/13/18 05:43, Stephen Morris wrote:

I am using a home plug device to get ethernet access across the home electrical
wires. The home plug device is provide 500 Mb/s, so having seen this thread I've
checked my ethernet configuration and like Terry is saying my settings have auto
negotiate unchecked and the link speed is set at 100 Mb/s and Half Duplex. I 
have
not explicitly set that configuration but what I don't know, because I haven't
really taken any notice of it as I only use this connection as a backup to
wireless, is whether or not those settings have always been there. I have done 
any
changes to the configuration since I set it up in F26.


One can always use

ethtool  to determine what is available and what the current 
settings are...

This is the view from the Fedora side

This is what the Fedora side it telling the outside world what the HW supports

     Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
     100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
     1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full

This is what the device that the Fedora system is connected to is  saying what 
it
supports.


     Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Full

FWIW, I have never seen an advertised link speed of 500 Mb/s.


I ran the ethtool command and received the following output:

ethtool enp7s0
Settings for enp7s0:
    Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
    Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
    100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
    1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
    Supported pause frame use: No
    Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
    Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
    100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
    1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
    Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
    Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
    Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
    Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
    Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
    Speed: 100Mb/s
    Duplex: Full
    Port: MII
    PHYAD: 0
    Transceiver: internal
    Auto-negotiation: on
Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted
    Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
   drv probe ifdown ifup
    Link detected: yes

This surprises me, as this is saying the home plug device is only 
running at 100 Mbps, but it is packaged as 500 Mbps and the device 
itself has 500 Mbps physically stamped on the front of it. I did set the 
manual configuration to 500 Mbps and full duplex, and when I turned on 
auto negotiate and then switched it off, the link speed was reset to 100 
Mbps.



regards,

Steve




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Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

[Stephen Morris]

On 13/2/18 9:42 am, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/13/18 05:46, Stephen Morris wrote:

Just further to this, on my system when the auto negotiate box is checked the 
link
entry and the duplex entry are removed from the dialog.


Which makes perfect sense, right?

If the negotiation is automatic then displaying the manual choices would be 
confusing
don't you think?


I was just surprised that it did that as I'm used to environments where, 
when doing the same thing, the manual entries are ghosted rather than 
removed. I was also confused by this when in your previous thread you 
said you thought that you may still have to have auto negotiate checked 
for configuration changes to be saved.



regards,

Steve





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Re: off topic -- vm issues

[bruce]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> On 02/12/2018 06:34 PM, bruce wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking that I've screwed up some "dir/files" that are unique to
>> a droplet and used for the snapshot process.. I can't find any data on
>> how the "snapshot/vm" process really is implemented within
>> digitalocean. My last hope is to iteratively rsync, testing out the
>> snapshot/droplet process until i figure out the real issues..
>
>
> It's very difficult to copy an entire running system to another running
> system.  I would suggest that it's way more difficult than just rebuilding a
> new system and copying config files over.  You are also likely to run into
> various random issues that will be hard to diagnose.
>
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Hey Sam and others..

For the "/etc"  what files/dirs would you suggest to be copied from
the base to the target??

Thoughts/comments?

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Re: Problems with vlc

[Stephen Morris]

On 14/2/18 7:55 am, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 02/13/2018 12:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
Hi Ed, just my 2 cents worth, I have the same setup as Patrick, and 
like Patrick I use the negativo17 repositories for Nvidia (I found 
rpmfusion to be not reliable enough with their binary files for 
nvidia), but I'm also using their repositories for Handbrake and 
Steam. I didn't have any issues with the repository name of 
Fedora-Multimedia, to me it was obvious what it was. Negativo17 
supports multiple distributions and to me it makes perfect sense to 
name the repositories for the distribution they are for, the only 
source of potential confusion could be where he uses the same 
repository name for different versions of the same distribution.


Two comments.  First, I've never used negativo17, but I've never heard 
anything bad about it.  Second, my understanding is that you can 
either use it or rpmfusion but not both, to prevent conflicts.  I've 
always used rpmfusion, which is why I've never tried negativo17.


I use Negativo17 because in the past I have found that rpmfusion were 
very tardy with their Nvidia binary files in keeping pace with kernel 
version changes. I have all the negativo17 repositories enabled and all 
the rpmfusion repositories enabled, so far without any apparent 
conflicts, which may just be luck on my part.



regards,

Steve



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Re: Problems with vlc

[Stephen Morris]

On 13/2/18 11:51 pm, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 13:36 +0100, Jon Ingason wrote:

Den 2018-02-13 kl. 13:14, skrev Ed Greshko:

On 02/13/18 19:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

  3.0.0-rc5-0-gf53236af09)

Oh, you mention "fedora-multimedia".  Is that an actual fedora sponsored repo 
or a
3rd party repo like rpmfusion?  I ask since I've not heard of that one.


It is netativo17 repo found on https://negativo17.org/

Aha! That must be it. I'd forgotten I had that repo installed (I needed
it for NVidia drivers). I've uninstalled that vlc, disabled Negativo17
and reinstalled vlc from RPMfusion. It's working now.


Hi Patrick, I am using vlc as well and if I understand the rpm -qa 
output correctly, I am using the version from Fedora Multimedia as you 
were. When I run vlc from the console it announces itself as VLC media 
player 3.0.0-rc6 Vetinari (revision 3.0.0-rc5-7-g0c462fc53e), then it 
displays the following output:


[5608e0c10410] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. 
Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.

[5608e0c1f730] main playlist: playlist is empty

Having displayed the above messages, because it was launched without any 
parameters, it launched the gui interface, where I was then able to 
continue playing an mp4 video from where I last left off. After 
launching the gui and playing the video it displayed the following:



[7f6fa4001f60] egl_x11 gl error: cannot select OpenGL API
[7f6faf056f70] avcodec decoder: Using NVIDIA VDPAU Driver Shared 
Library  390.25  Wed Jan 24 19:28:27 PST 2018 for hardware decoding

QObject::~QObject: Timers cannot be stopped from another thread

So from my perspective the vlc package you had problems with works fine 
on my system.


The packages I have installed are:


bash-4.4$ rpm -qa vlc*
vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64
vlc-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64
bash-4.4$ rpm -qa gstreamer*
gstreamer1-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-41.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-1.12.4-2.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer1-plugins-base-tools-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-base-tools-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31-20.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer1-libav-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-1.12.4-1.fc27.x86_64
gstreamer1-1.12.4-1.fc27.i686
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-18.fc27.x86_64


regards,

Steve




Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it was
an official Fedora one.

poc
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Re: Problems with vlc

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/13/2018 12:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
Hi Ed, just my 2 cents worth, I have the same setup as Patrick, and like 
Patrick I use the negativo17 repositories for Nvidia (I found rpmfusion 
to be not reliable enough with their binary files for nvidia), but I'm 
also using their repositories for Handbrake and Steam. I didn't have any 
issues with the repository name of Fedora-Multimedia, to me it was 
obvious what it was. Negativo17 supports multiple distributions and to 
me it makes perfect sense to name the repositories for the distribution 
they are for, the only source of potential confusion could be where he 
uses the same repository name for different versions of the same 
distribution.


Two comments.  First, I've never used negativo17, but I've never heard 
anything bad about it.  Second, my understanding is that you can either 
use it or rpmfusion but not both, to prevent conflicts.  I've always 
used rpmfusion, which is why I've never tried negativo17.

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Re: Problems with vlc

[Stephen Morris]

On 14/2/18 12:34 am, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it was
an official Fedora one.


Understandable.  IMO, they should be discouraged from using the "fedora" name 
for
that very reason.


Hi Ed, just my 2 cents worth, I have the same setup as Patrick, and like 
Patrick I use the negativo17 repositories for Nvidia (I found rpmfusion 
to be not reliable enough with their binary files for nvidia), but I'm 
also using their repositories for Handbrake and Steam. I didn't have any 
issues with the repository name of Fedora-Multimedia, to me it was 
obvious what it was. Negativo17 supports multiple distributions and to 
me it makes perfect sense to name the repositories for the distribution 
they are for, the only source of potential confusion could be where he 
uses the same repository name for different versions of the same 
distribution.


This is just my opinion and other people may have a completely different 
view.



regards,

Steve




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Re: off topic -- vm issues

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/12/2018 06:34 PM, bruce wrote:

I'm thinking that I've screwed up some "dir/files" that are unique to
a droplet and used for the snapshot process.. I can't find any data on
how the "snapshot/vm" process really is implemented within
digitalocean. My last hope is to iteratively rsync, testing out the
snapshot/droplet process until i figure out the real issues..


It's very difficult to copy an entire running system to another running 
system.  I would suggest that it's way more difficult than just 
rebuilding a new system and copying config files over.  You are also 
likely to run into various random issues that will be hard to diagnose.

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Re: off topic -- vm issues

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/13/2018 09:50 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:

Keep in mind that the vast majority of VM implementations use sparse
filesystems (e.g. qcow2). This can confuse the filesystem massively if
you simply take a sparse 60G filesystem (where only 20G is used) and
stick it on a 40G drive. Yes, only 20G is actually used, but the FS
stack thinks it's got all 60G and that can lead to big problems. I'm
not saying that's necessarily your issue, but it's, uhm, "bad practice"
to do that sort of thing.


He's not moving the disk image, he's trying to copy the filesystem from 
one running vm system to another.



I don't know if you can do it, but you might try to resize the FS in
question down to the size your target droplets are going to have, then
snapshot and restore to the new droplets. I haven't really used Digital
Ocean's environment as we run our own kubernetes, docker and
proxmox/qemu/libvirt clusters. We do have some stuff on AWS and Azure
(which are essentially libvirt-ish environments).


They don't support that.
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Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

[Terry Barnaby]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Terry Barnaby  wrote:

On 12/02/18 21:51, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/13/18 05:43, Stephen Morris wrote:

I am using a home plug device to get ethernet access across the home
electrical
wires. The home plug device is provide 500 Mb/s, so having seen this
thread I've
checked my ethernet configuration and like Terry is saying my settings
have auto
negotiate unchecked and the link speed is set at 100 Mb/s and Half
Duplex. I have
not explicitly set that configuration but what I don't know, because I
haven't
really taken any notice of it as I only use this connection as a backup
to
wireless, is whether or not those settings have always been there. I have
done any
changes to the configuration since I set it up in F26.


One can always use

ethtool  to determine what is available and what the current
settings are...

This is the view from the Fedora side

This is what the Fedora side it telling the outside world what the HW
supports

  Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full

This is what the device that the Fedora system is connected to is  saying
what it
supports.


  Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
   100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
   1000baseT/Full

FWIW, I have never seen an advertised link speed of 500 Mb/s.


Yes, I used ethtool to find out what was happening after the performance of
NFS went down to 10 MBytes/s.

I think what has happened is:

1. I updated these systems (5 off) from F25. This was a clean/new install
but some configuration files were copied from the previous systems.

2. The /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-Wired_connection_1 file (or
appropriate named one) was copied from the previous system.

3. These files did not have the new ETHTOOL_OPTS="autoneg on" entry.

4. All was working fine (Gigabit full duplex) for a month or so until
someone/something updated the ifcfg file. If you use the KDE-Plasma
NetworkManager settings tool and it sees no ETHTOOL_OPTS entry, it sets the
GUI settings to manual 100Mbits/s half duplex rather than auto. So if you
don't notice this and save the settings the Ethernet will be set to this. I
will try and enter a bug report for this somewhere.

In my case I don't believe I changed the Ethernet settings using the
KDE-Plasma NetworkManager settings tool, certainly not on all of the
systems. I think something else may have written the ETHTOOL_OPTS="100mbps"
entry somehow with an RPM update within the last week.


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On 13/02/18 14:53, Roger Heflin wrote:

If auto neg is set on one end, and not on the other end, then the
standards says set things to 100mb/half (for gbit cards) since you
were unable to get information from the other end I believe this was
judged the most likely to work reasonably by the people who write the
standard.  On 100mbit adapters the fail-safe was 10mb/half.

If the device on the other end is not doing auto-neg then I would
expect 100/half.

Either set the other end to auto-neg or figure out what the other end
does and set the computer end to match how it is explicitly set (if
not auto-neg).

If both ends are set to auto-neg and you are getting 100/half then
something is being detected to be wrong with the wiring and both ends
are using what they believe will run on the given wiring.  This could
be broken wires, badly terminated wires, or not quite plugged in
right, or a number of other things.
In my case it is the KDE-PLASMA/NetworkManager configuration that was 
forcing 100 MBits/s half duplex at the Linux end. There are 
configuration parameters for this now in the KDE-PLASMA applet. Its just 
that these default to 100 MBits/s half duplex when there is no setting 
in the ifcfg-* file rather than a more useful "auto negotiate" setting. 
So if you are using older ifcfg-* files from previous Linux system 
versions, you might have the same issue as i did.

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Re: off topic -- vm issues

[Rick Stevens]

On 02/12/2018 06:34 PM, bruce wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
>> On 12Feb2018 21:08, bruce  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm testing digital ocean creating droplets/snapshots/etc..
>>>
>>> I've create droplets, and from them - snapshots which have allowed me
>>> to regenerate additional droplets. Droplets are VM/copies of servers..
>>> Snapshots are compressed images.
>>>
>>> Recently, I decided to try to "replicate" a droplet of size X to a
>>> smaller size. For the most part, the process works. I have a smaller
>>> working droplet that I can ping/ssh into.
>>>
>>> The issue I'm now facing, is that generating a snapshot, followed by
>>> regenerating a new droplet, seems to fail.
>>>
>>> The resulting new droplet has an IP, but pinging/ssh'ing into it
>>> fails/hangs.
>>>
>>> I'm posting to see if anyone has any clue as to what might be
>>> happening. I suspect that in my rsync process xfering files from the
>>> initial droplet to the new droplet (used for the snapshot) that I may
>>> have screwed up some files that are used for the snapshot to droplet
>>> process.
>>
>>
>> Just wondering: if you're making droplets from snapshots, why do you need to
>> rsync any files? You're effectively cloning the previous droplet, so all the
>> files should already be there.
>>
> 
> Hey Cameron.
> 
> DO permits creating droplets of different configurations (cpu/mem/drive)
> 
> In my case the initial droplet (droplet1) has a larger hard drive (and
> a higher cost)
> I've got a bunch of stuff on it, but the drive is only about 20G

Keep in mind that the vast majority of VM implementations use sparse
filesystems (e.g. qcow2). This can confuse the filesystem massively if
you simply take a sparse 60G filesystem (where only 20G is used) and
stick it on a 40G drive. Yes, only 20G is actually used, but the FS
stack thinks it's got all 60G and that can lead to big problems. I'm
not saying that's necessarily your issue, but it's, uhm, "bad practice"
to do that sort of thing.

I don't know if you can do it, but you might try to resize the FS in
question down to the size your target droplets are going to have, then
snapshot and restore to the new droplets. I haven't really used Digital
Ocean's environment as we run our own kubernetes, docker and
proxmox/qemu/libvirt clusters. We do have some stuff on AWS and Azure
(which are essentially libvirt-ish environments).

> I've tested creating a smaller droplet (call it droplet2) by doing all
> the rsync/copying to create essentially the same server as droplet1.
> 
> This works.. I can access it via ssh/ping with no issues.
> 
> My overall process requires me to run multiple copies of droplet2 in
> parallel which can be accomplished by creating a snapshot of droplet2
> and then spinning up multiple instances. I've done this 1000s of times
> with basic droplets.. but never one where I've rsyn/copied data from
> one server to another..
> 
> I'm thinking that I've screwed up some "dir/files" that are unique to
> a droplet and used for the snapshot process.. I can't find any data on
> how the "snapshot/vm" process really is implemented within
> digitalocean. My last hope is to iteratively rsync, testing out the
> snapshot/droplet process until i figure out the real issues..
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
>> Um, how are you defining "smaller"? Less memory? Less disc?
>>
>> A snapshot with less disc might have a corrupted filesystem if you cut off a
>> portion of the disc with files in 
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Re: F27 tracker-preferences missing?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:27:53 +0100
Wolfgang Pfeiffer  wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:11:48 +0100
> Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:49 +, Christopher wrote:
> >   
> > > So... I just did a fresh install of F27, and I can't seem to find
> > > tracker-preferences, so I can disable the annoying document indexer that
> > > keeps crawling my drives. Anybody have any insight into why this is 
> > > missing
> > > from F27, or a workaround to effectively disable the thing?
> > 
> > Also see:
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/t...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7JKNFIS26MHKOVBWXUDZQNIKXKBLQ3BI/
> >   
> 
> dconf GUI:

on a F26 system ...
Sorry!

> 
> /org/freedesktop/tracker/miner/files/crawling-interval
> is set here to "-2" (disabled)
> 
> plus:
> /org/freedesktop/tracker/miner/files/enable-monitors
> here set to "false"
> 


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Re: F27 tracker-preferences missing?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:11:48 +0100
Michael Schwendt  wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:49 +, Christopher wrote:
> 
> > So... I just did a fresh install of F27, and I can't seem to find
> > tracker-preferences, so I can disable the annoying document indexer that
> > keeps crawling my drives. Anybody have any insight into why this is missing
> > from F27, or a workaround to effectively disable the thing?  
> 
> Also see:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/t...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7JKNFIS26MHKOVBWXUDZQNIKXKBLQ3BI/

dconf GUI:

/org/freedesktop/tracker/miner/files/crawling-interval
is set here to "-2" (disabled)

plus:
/org/freedesktop/tracker/miner/files/enable-monitors
here set to "false"

These two might be some core settings to turn tracker off ..
I doubt this really switches it off as a whole, but it seems it's
a good start if one doesn't want or need it ...
At least I don't remember having heard the fans roaring up over for
quite some time, which IIRC happened  when tracker started working ... 

HTH
Wolfgang
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Re: fed/centos - recovery app/process???

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 09:58 -0500, bruce wrote:
> Hey..
> 
> In the event of a "crash" is there some kind of process/app for
> Fed/Centos that can be used to "recover" the entire working
> environment of the server/box. As the only user it would be "nice" to
> be able to simply run something which would then "restore" my edit
> apps, my term sessions, and other apps I was running... and have the
> processes/apps running in the same order in the process tabs..
> 
> Or am I dreaming. I've been looking for a bit and haven't seen anything.

Look for 'session management' in your desktop environment. In KDE for
example you can save a session configuration and configure your login
to restore it automatically. It doesn't work 100% with non-KDE apps but
it does save a lot of time.

Also, browsers have their own way of doing things, usually described as
'restore windows/tabs at startup' or something similar.

I don't know of anything that will just restore all processes that
happened to be running when a crash occurred, or why you would even
want that.

poc
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fed/centos - recovery app/process???

[bruce]

Hey..

In the event of a "crash" is there some kind of process/app for
Fed/Centos that can be used to "recover" the entire working
environment of the server/box. As the only user it would be "nice" to
be able to simply run something which would then "restore" my edit
apps, my term sessions, and other apps I was running... and have the
processes/apps running in the same order in the process tabs..

Or am I dreaming. I've been looking for a bit and haven't seen anything.

thanks.
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Re: Fedora27: Ethernet interfaces set to 100MBits/sec half duplex

[Roger Heflin]

If auto neg is set on one end, and not on the other end, then the
standards says set things to 100mb/half (for gbit cards) since you
were unable to get information from the other end I believe this was
judged the most likely to work reasonably by the people who write the
standard.  On 100mbit adapters the fail-safe was 10mb/half.

If the device on the other end is not doing auto-neg then I would
expect 100/half.

Either set the other end to auto-neg or figure out what the other end
does and set the computer end to match how it is explicitly set (if
not auto-neg).

If both ends are set to auto-neg and you are getting 100/half then
something is being detected to be wrong with the wiring and both ends
are using what they believe will run on the given wiring.  This could
be broken wires, badly terminated wires, or not quite plugged in
right, or a number of other things.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Terry Barnaby  wrote:
> On 12/02/18 21:51, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>
>> On 02/13/18 05:43, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>>
>>> I am using a home plug device to get ethernet access across the home
>>> electrical
>>> wires. The home plug device is provide 500 Mb/s, so having seen this
>>> thread I've
>>> checked my ethernet configuration and like Terry is saying my settings
>>> have auto
>>> negotiate unchecked and the link speed is set at 100 Mb/s and Half
>>> Duplex. I have
>>> not explicitly set that configuration but what I don't know, because I
>>> haven't
>>> really taken any notice of it as I only use this connection as a backup
>>> to
>>> wireless, is whether or not those settings have always been there. I have
>>> done any
>>> changes to the configuration since I set it up in F26.
>>
>>
>> One can always use
>>
>> ethtool  to determine what is available and what the current
>> settings are...
>>
>> This is the view from the Fedora side
>>
>> This is what the Fedora side it telling the outside world what the HW
>> supports
>>
>>  Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>>  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>>  1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
>>
>> This is what the device that the Fedora system is connected to is  saying
>> what it
>> supports.
>>
>>
>>  Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
>>   100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
>>   1000baseT/Full
>>
>> FWIW, I have never seen an advertised link speed of 500 Mb/s.
>
>
> Yes, I used ethtool to find out what was happening after the performance of
> NFS went down to 10 MBytes/s.
>
> I think what has happened is:
>
> 1. I updated these systems (5 off) from F25. This was a clean/new install
> but some configuration files were copied from the previous systems.
>
> 2. The /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-Wired_connection_1 file (or
> appropriate named one) was copied from the previous system.
>
> 3. These files did not have the new ETHTOOL_OPTS="autoneg on" entry.
>
> 4. All was working fine (Gigabit full duplex) for a month or so until
> someone/something updated the ifcfg file. If you use the KDE-Plasma
> NetworkManager settings tool and it sees no ETHTOOL_OPTS entry, it sets the
> GUI settings to manual 100Mbits/s half duplex rather than auto. So if you
> don't notice this and save the settings the Ethernet will be set to this. I
> will try and enter a bug report for this somewhere.
>
> In my case I don't believe I changed the Ethernet settings using the
> KDE-Plasma NetworkManager settings tool, certainly not on all of the
> systems. I think something else may have written the ETHTOOL_OPTS="100mbps"
> entry somehow with an RPM update within the last week.
>
>
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Re: Problems with vlc

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/13/18 20:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it was
> an official Fedora one.


Understandable.  IMO, they should be discouraged from using the "fedora" name 
for
that very reason. 

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Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

[Илья Коскин]

unfortunately it did not helped :( only show me this:

open_directory: unable to create Новая папка/Новая папка. Error was 
NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

d'oh :(
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Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

[Илья Коскин]

i'm not just standing on one point, writing to lists, i already tried to create 
new shares with another names, tried another directories, even tryed to create 
not usershare, but smb.conf share:
[Shared]
path = /home/kasak/Shared
guest ok = yes
guest only = yes
writable = yes 

so this is not a typo, this is another my attempt to fix anything, and it just 
doesn't work. 
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Re: Problems with vlc

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 13:36 +0100, Jon Ingason wrote:
> Den 2018-02-13 kl. 13:14, skrev Ed Greshko:
> > On 02/13/18 19:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
>  3.0.0-rc5-0-gf53236af09)
> > 
> > Oh, you mention "fedora-multimedia".  Is that an actual fedora sponsored 
> > repo or a
> > 3rd party repo like rpmfusion?  I ask since I've not heard of that one.
> > 
> 
> It is netativo17 repo found on https://negativo17.org/

Aha! That must be it. I'd forgotten I had that repo installed (I needed
it for NVidia drivers). I've uninstalled that vlc, disabled Negativo17
and reinstalled vlc from RPMfusion. It's working now.

Sorry for the confusion. The repo name misled me into thinking it was
an official Fedora one.

poc
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Re: Problems with vlc

[Jon Ingason]

Den 2018-02-13 kl. 13:14, skrev Ed Greshko:
> On 02/13/18 19:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 3.0.0-rc5-0-gf53236af09)
> 
> Oh, you mention "fedora-multimedia".  Is that an actual fedora sponsored repo 
> or a
> 3rd party repo like rpmfusion?  I ask since I've not heard of that one.
> 

It is netativo17 repo found on https://negativo17.org/

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Re: Problems with vlc

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/13/18 19:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 08:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 02/13/18 07:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> Some time in recent weeks vlc stopped working for me, i.e. it will no
>>> longer play .avi, .mp4 or .mkv files but just lists a continuous stream
>>> of errors to the console (see below). I'm currently on:
>>>
>>> $ rpm -qa vlc\*
>>> vlc-extras-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64
>>> vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64
>> I have
>>
>> vlc-core-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64
>> vlc-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64
>>
>> Both from rpmfusion.   No problems to play any video...
> Interesting. My rpms are from fedora-multimedia, and I note that the
> names are slightly different (vlc-core and vlc-extras rather than vlc
> and vlc-core). Since I have RPMfusion (free and nonfree) enabled I'm
> guessing this is correct, as there doesn't seem to be a way to force
> dnf to use the RPMfusion one (other than disabling the official repos
> of course).

I did not have the "extras" installed from rpmfusion.  I have now.  And now I 
have.

vlc-core-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64
vlc-extras-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64
vlc-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64
> Aside from that, if I run vlc with no arguments, it does start and I
> can then view a video. So it looks like there's a change of behaviour
> compared to the previous version where I could simply type 'vlc movie'
> and it would run. If that's intentional, then it's a feature and not a
> bug, but the error message(s) leave a *lot* to be desired. Maybe time
> for a BZ report.
>

I can either run using a file name from the command line or select a file after
calling vlc without a file name.

Another difference is when you run from the command line you get...

VLC media player 3.0.0-rc6 Vetinari (revision 3.0.0-rc5-7-g0c462fc53e)
while I get
VLC media player 3.0.0-rc5 Vetinari (revision 3.0.0-rc5-0-gf53236af09)

Oh, you mention "fedora-multimedia".  Is that an actual fedora sponsored repo 
or a
3rd party repo like rpmfusion?  I ask since I've not heard of that one.

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Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

[Junk]

On 13 February 2018 07:16:02 CET, Bill Shirley  
wrote:
>List the [homes] section of testparm. You didn't answer my question
>about the missing
>path = statement.
>

I wouldn't expect to see a paths section For [homes] it would map to the home 
directory of the unix user logging in to samba.
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Re: Problems with vlc

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 08:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 02/13/18 07:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Some time in recent weeks vlc stopped working for me, i.e. it will no
> > longer play .avi, .mp4 or .mkv files but just lists a continuous stream
> > of errors to the console (see below). I'm currently on:
> >
> > $ rpm -qa vlc\*
> > vlc-extras-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64
> > vlc-core-3.0.0-25.20180109git0c462fc.fc27.x86_64
> 
> I have
> 
> vlc-core-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64
> vlc-3.0.0-0.48.git20180109.rc5.fc27.x86_64
> 
> Both from rpmfusion.   No problems to play any video...

Interesting. My rpms are from fedora-multimedia, and I note that the
names are slightly different (vlc-core and vlc-extras rather than vlc
and vlc-core). Since I have RPMfusion (free and nonfree) enabled I'm
guessing this is correct, as there doesn't seem to be a way to force
dnf to use the RPMfusion one (other than disabling the official repos
of course).

Aside from that, if I run vlc with no arguments, it does start and I
can then view a video. So it looks like there's a change of behaviour
compared to the previous version where I could simply type 'vlc movie'
and it would run. If that's intentional, then it's a feature and not a
bug, but the error message(s) leave a *lot* to be desired. Maybe time
for a BZ report.

poc
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Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

[Bill Shirley]

I use a path statement in my [homes] section:
[homes]
    comment = Home Directories
    path = /home/%u/windows
    browseable = no
    valid users = %S
    writable = yes
    guest ok = no
    directory mask = 2770
    create mask = 660
Just an FYI.

You created the share with:
net usershare add Share /home/kasak/Share "" Everyone:F guest_ok=y
and after creating the foo directory, you list as:

And here is ls:
[kasak@kasakoff Shared]$ ls -al
итого 12
drwxr-xrwx  3 kasak  kasak  4096 фев 13 08:35 .
drwx-x 22 kasak  kasak  4096 фев 13 08:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 nobody nobody 4096 фев 13 08:35 foo

Note "Share" != "Shared".  What is the full path to foo?

Bill

On 2/13/2018 4:08 AM, Илья Коскин wrote:

path statement should not be specified in [homes] section, this is samba built 
in section, to dynamically share user home directories.

I am not logged in as kasak, samba users is not the same as system users. To login as  
kasak, first I need to add kasak to samba with smbpasswd -a kasak, or samba-tool user add 
kasak. But I have not added kasak to samba, so when smbclient tries to login as kasak it 
doesn't find it and falls back to guest (unix nobody) account, because i have option 
"Map to guest=Bad user" in my config.

Look:
[kasak@kasakoff ~]$ smbclient kasakoff\\Share
Enter WORKGROUP\kasak's password:
Try "help" to get a list of possible commands.
smb: \> ^Z
[1]+  Остановленsmbclient kasakoff\\Share  <<< ctrl+z

[kasak@kasakoff ~]$ sudo smbstatus
[sudo] пароль для kasak:

Samba version 4.7.5
PID Username GroupMachine   
Protocol Version  Encryption   Signing

8027nobody   nobody   192.168.2.87 (ipv4:192.168.2.87:12209)
SMB2_10   --
8001nobody   nobody   192.168.3.251 (ipv4:192.168.3.251:36734)  SMB3_11  
 --<<< my ip

Service  pid Machine   Connected at Encryption  
 Signing
-
IPC$ 8027192.168.2.87  Вт фев 13 12:07:01 2018 MSK --
Share8001192.168.3.251 Вт фев 13 12:06:46 2018 MSK --

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Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

[Dr J Austin]

On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 09:08 +, Илья Коскин wrote:
> path statement should not be specified in [homes] section, this is samba 
> built in section, to
> dynamically share user home directories. 
> 
> I am not logged in as kasak, samba users is not the same as system users. To 
> login as  kasak, first I
> need to add kasak to samba with smbpasswd -a kasak, or samba-tool user add 
> kasak. But I have not added
> kasak to samba, so when smbclient tries to login as kasak it doesn't find it 
> and falls back to guest
> (unix nobody) account, because i have option "Map to guest=Bad user" in my 
> config. 
> 
> Look:
> [kasak@kasakoff ~]$ smbclient kasakoff\\Share
> Enter WORKGROUP\kasak's password: 
> Try "help" to get a list of possible commands.
> smb: \> ^Z
> [1]+  Остановленsmbclient kasakoff\\Share  <<< ctrl+z
> 
> [kasak@kasakoff ~]$ sudo smbstatus 
> [sudo] пароль для kasak: 
> 
> Samba version 4.7.5
> PID Username GroupMachine   
> Protocol
> Version  Encryption   Signing  
> --
> --
> 8027nobody   nobody   192.168.2.87
> (ipv4:192.168.2.87:12209)SMB2_10   -- 
>
> 8001nobody   nobody   192.168.3.251
> (ipv4:192.168.3.251:36734)  SMB3_11   --  
>   <<< my ip
> 
> Service  pid Machine   Connected at 
> Encryption   Signing 
> -
> IPC$ 8027192.168.2.87  Вт фев 13 12:07:01 2018 MSK -- 
>   
> Share8001192.168.3.251 Вт фев 13 12:06:46 2018 MSK -- 
>   
> 
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Does running smbd in a terminal tell you more?
systemctl stop smbd.service
smbd -F -S -d 2

Had to do this yesterday - it helped me fix a problem
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Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

[Илья Коскин]

Hello Fred. Of course i know about nfs and sshfs. I even know about dav, 
included in gnome settings, but i have some another machines and it is more 
comfortable to me, to use samba
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Re: Please help me with samba or my brain will explode.

[Илья Коскин]

path statement should not be specified in [homes] section, this is samba built 
in section, to dynamically share user home directories. 

I am not logged in as kasak, samba users is not the same as system users. To 
login as  kasak, first I need to add kasak to samba with smbpasswd -a kasak, or 
samba-tool user add kasak. But I have not added kasak to samba, so when 
smbclient tries to login as kasak it doesn't find it and falls back to guest 
(unix nobody) account, because i have option "Map to guest=Bad user" in my 
config. 

Look:
[kasak@kasakoff ~]$ smbclient kasakoff\\Share
Enter WORKGROUP\kasak's password: 
Try "help" to get a list of possible commands.
smb: \> ^Z
[1]+  Остановленsmbclient kasakoff\\Share  <<< ctrl+z

[kasak@kasakoff ~]$ sudo smbstatus 
[sudo] пароль для kasak: 

Samba version 4.7.5
PID Username GroupMachine   
Protocol Version  Encryption   Signing  

8027nobody   nobody   192.168.2.87 (ipv4:192.168.2.87:12209)
SMB2_10   --
8001nobody   nobody   192.168.3.251 (ipv4:192.168.3.251:36734)  
SMB3_11   --<<< my ip

Service  pid Machine   Connected at Encryption  
 Signing 
-
IPC$ 8027192.168.2.87  Вт фев 13 12:07:01 2018 MSK --   

Share8001192.168.3.251 Вт фев 13 12:06:46 2018 MSK --   


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