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Is it possible this issue is triggered by any
in in any of the Ignite servers' monitoring
> metrics when these events happen? What kind of accumulated workload is on
> the cluster at those times, and how often does this happen?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 1:50 PM Raymond Wilson
> wrote:
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>> Hi Jeremy,
&g
ation in play? What does the code look like for
> the updates to the replicated cache, and what does the code look like for
> the distributed compute operation?
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 5:21 PM Raymond Wilson
> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> We have been triagi
cluster
restart?
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yment context, how are you
ensuring the Ignite node implementation gets the SIGTERM and shuts down
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ra
> Does this imply risk if run against a production environment grid?
>
> It depends.
> As for read repair, CHECK_ONLY is read only mode and can’t harm your data.
> Other modes that fix data inconsistency was used on our production and
> there are no known issues.
>
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Thanks for confirming you can reproduce
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Description:
Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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[~ptupitsyn]
I have managed to create a simple
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I think persistence is an important for this issue
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Wrapping an exception trapper around
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[~ptupitsyn]
As some additional background
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[~ptupitsyn]
I searched for the error you mentioned
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Just a quick note as to how I reproduce it: I create
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Yes, we are using persistence.
This is our
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Raymond Wilson updated IGNITE-20299:
Summary: Creating a cache with an unknown data region name causes total
unrecoverable
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Summary: Creating a cache with an unknown data region name causes
immediate, total
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Description:
Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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Using the Ignite C# client.
Given a running grid, having a client
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Using the Ignite C# client.
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Using the Ignite C# client.
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Using the Ignite C# client.
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Raymond Wilson updated IGNITE-20299:
Environment:
Observed in:
C# client and grid running on Linux in a container
C# client
FYI, I raised Jira ticket https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-20299
for this.
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:42 PM Raymond Wilson
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> We have tried the same renaming in the dev environment which has multiple
> server nodes impacted and contains some data (unlike the local
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Component/s: (was: cassandra)
> Creating a cache with an unknown data region n
Raymond Wilson created IGNITE-20299:
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Summary: Creating a cache with an unknown data region name causes
immediate unrecoverable failure
Key: IGNITE-20299
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-20299
Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> Looking at the cache-SiteModelMetaData folder in the persistence folder
> for a server node shows a "cache_data" file 6kb in size. No other cache
> folders contain this file.
>
> As an experiment I renamed this file to "cache_dataxxx". This ap
the grid to restart. Similarly renaming the cache
folder to "xxxcache-SiteModelMetaData" also permitted the grid to restart;
we will be testing this further to verify.
Raymond.
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 5:20 PM Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> I have reproduced the possible bug I reported in my e
point the grid is now unusable.
To summarise: Attempted creation of a cache with an unknown DataRegionName
causes immediate and unrecovered failure in the entire grid.
Raymond.
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 7:47 PM Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> We believe we had some code on a dev environment attem
We believe we had some code on a dev environment attempt to create a cache
that was intended for another Ignite.
The creation of this cache would have failed (at least) because the data
region referenced in the cache configuration does not exist on that
environment.
A subsequent restart of the
[2]
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/blob/master/modules/core/src/main/java/org/apache/ignite/cache/ReadRepairStrategy.java
>
>
>
> 21 авг. 2023 г., в 07:46, Raymond Wilson
> написал(а):
>
> [Replying onto correct thread]
>
> As a follow up to this email, we are starting t
,
Raymond.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 12:38 PM Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a query regarding data safety of replicated caches in the case of
> hard failure of the compute resource but where the storage resource is
> available when the node returns.
>
> We are using Ignite 2.
:37 AM Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> I have a query regarding the CacheWriteSynchronizationMode in
> CacheConfiguration.
>
> This enum is defined like this in the .Net client:
>
> public enum CacheWriteSynchronizationMode
> {
> ///
> /// Mode indicating that I
Actually, ignore that question. I was conflating storage and data region
configurations so my question is invalid!
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 11:40 AM Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> I am looking at defining additional data regions with persistence to
> support cache with some different settings (eg
different storage folders for each data
region for data and WAL files, or whether Ignite is happy to have all data
regions using the same base storage path.
Raymond.
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- could you ask about this
> specific case in a separate thread?
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 8:50 AM Raymond Wilson
> wrote:
>
>> >> However, if a primary node fails before at least 1 backup
>> node receives an update, then the update will be lost, and all nodes w
re is an improvement in write safety in this instance, does this
imply the Fsync WalMode write pathway has opportunities for data loss in
these failure situations?
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all nodes will have the old value.
>
> Related: CacheConfiguration.ReadFromBackup property is true by default,
> meaning that with PrimarySync it is possible to get old value from a backup
> node after an update, before backups receive new data.
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 11:51 PM R
llocated
> only when the first cache is created in that region (when true), or
> immediately (when false)
>
>
> https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/javadoc/org/apache/ignite/configuration/DataRegionConfiguration.html#isLazyMemoryAllocation--
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at
Hi Pavel,
I understand the differences between the sync modes in terms of when the
write returns. What I want to understand is if there are consistency risks
with the PrimarySync versus FullSync modes.
For example, if I have 4 nodes participating in the replicated cache (and
am using the default
Jul 2023 at 10:02 AM, Raymond Wilson
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> Hi Alex,
>
> Here is the log from the Ignite startup. It's fairly short but shows
> everything I think:
>
> 2023-07-17 22:38:55,061 [1] DBG [ImmutableCacheComputeServer] Starting
> Ignite.NET 2.15.0.23172
> 2023-07
Just FYI, we have held off any memory pressure changes in the meantime
while we continue to investigate the memory issues we have.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 9:07 AM, Raymond Wilson
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> Hi Pavel,
>
> This area is confusing. There is no indication that the memory pressure
> ap
on and ran into this item.
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ack trace ---
at Apache.Ignite.Core.Ignition.Start(IgniteConfiguration cfg)
Thanks,
Raymond.
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 5:43 AM Raymond Wilson
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> Hi Alex,
>
> We are using Ignite v2.15.
>
> I will track down the additional log information and reply on this thread.
>
tion during start processors,
> node will be stopped and close connections" (there should be a reason in
> the log, why the page delta can't be applied).
>
> вт, 18 июл. 2023 г. в 05:05, Raymond Wilson :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We run a dev/alpha stack of our application in Azure
are every 30-45
seconds or so, so this won't be significant).
Is this an error anyone else has noticed?
Has anyone else had similar issues with Azure Files when using strict
update/sync semantics?
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vailable RAM.
>
> [1]
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1149181/what-is-the-point-of-using-gc-addmemorypressure-with-an-unmanaged-resource
> [2]
> https://ignite.apache.org/docs/latest/memory-configuration/data-regions#configuring-default-data-region
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2
How do Ignite .Net server nodes manage this memory issue in other
projects?
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 5:32 PM Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> Oops, commutes => committed
>
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 4:34 PM, Raymond Wilson
> wrote:
>
>> I can’t see another way of letting . Net
Oops, commutes => committed
On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 4:34 PM, Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> I can’t see another way of letting . Net know that it can’t have access to
> all the ‘free’ memory in the process when a large slab of that is spoken
> for in terms of memory commutes to Ignite
yPressure documentation [1] states that this will "improve
> performance only for types that exclusively depend on finalizers".
>
> [1]
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.gc.addmemorypressure?view=net-7.0
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 1:02 AM Raymond Wilson
&g
of any?
Raymond.
On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 9:41 PM Raymond Wilson
wrote:
> Thanks Pavel, this makes sense.
>
> Querying the .Net Process instance shows this as the difference between
> PagesMemorySize (includes committed) versus WorkingSet (includes
> uses/written to) size.
> Raymo
Thanks Pavel, this makes sense.
Querying the .Net Process instance shows this as the difference between
PagesMemorySize (includes committed) versus WorkingSet (includes
uses/written to) size.
Raymond.
committed-allocated-memory-in-linux-is-less-than-used-memory-how-is-that-possib
> -
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/137773/is-inactive-memory-related-to-the-commited-but-unused
>
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 11:44 AM Raymond Wilson
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
it actually allocated.
I feel I am missing something here!
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s made available.
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Thanks Pavel! :)
On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 6:50 PM Pavel Tupitsyn wrote:
> Hi Raymond,
>
> Yes, you can remove those ContinueWith() calls. Default behavior is now
> safe.
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 2:25 AM Raymond Wilson
> wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> Th
t; thread.
>
> When doing `await`, we most likely end up on another thread and lose
> transaction context.
>
>
>
> There were plans to make transactions work across multiple threads, but
> the ticket looks abandoned:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNIT
ing on a .Net threadpool thread by default. Is
that correct?
This will allow us to remove the (quite a few) .ContinueWith() statements
which do add a layer of overhead on async calls.
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checkpointing threads appropriate, or are we likely to see
> better performance if we increased it to 8 (or more)?
>
> If there is a discussion related to this a pointer to it would be good
> (it's not really covered in the performance tuning section).
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond.
>
>
rmance if we increased it to 8 (or more)?
>
> If there is a discussion related to this a pointer to it would be good
> (it's not really covered in the performance tuning section).
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond.
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performance if we increased it to 8 (or more)?
If there is a discussion related to this a pointer to it would be good
(it's not really covered in the performance tuning section).
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ype=default, persistence=true, lazyAlloc=true,
> > > > ... initCfg=24576MB, maxCfg=24576MB, usedRam=1018MB, freeRam=95.86%,
> > > > allocRam=24576MB, allocTotal=3820MB]
> > > > ^-- metastoreMemPlc region [type=internal, persistence=true,
> > > > lazyAl
/compatibility/6.0
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 11:56 PM Raymond Wilson <
> raymond_wil...@trimble.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried running Apache Ignite on .Net 6?
>>
>> I understand it runs on .Net 5 from Pavel's blog (
>> https://ptupitsyn.github.io/Ignite
2.8 and make use of the latest .Net platform as well. Given .Net 6 is LTS,
I'd prefer going there directly...
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All
This blew up today: CVE-2021-44228 (
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-zero-day-exploit-for-log4j-java-library-is-an-enterprise-nightmare/
)
Will there be a risk assessment with respect to Ignite for this CVE?
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Release Note: This patch adds a DiscoveryPort configuration item in the
Kubernetes
estigate why tests are failing
> (the ones TCBot has defined as possible blockers).
> Check whether those tests are failing in master, in that case write about
> it in JIRA ticket.
>
> Best regards, Ed.
>
> On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 00:45, Raymond Wilson
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
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You're welcome :)
I have marked this as fixed
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Maksim/Pavel: Thanks for the reviews and comments
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Description:
The TcpDiscoveryKubernetesIpFinder hard wires the port passed
re info.
>
> > I'm also not sure who to suggest for review in the Java K8s area.
> I can do the review once the tests pass.
>
> Thanks,
> Pavel
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:47 AM Raymond Wilson <
> raymond_wil...@trimble.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
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Reviewer: Pavel Tupitsyn
> Add KubernetesConnectionConfiguration.DiscoveryPort prope
.
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Raymond Wilson updated IGNITE-15602:
Description:
The TcpDiscoveryKubernetesIpFinder hard wires the port passed
Raymond Wilson created IGNITE-15630:
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Summary: Document new
KubernetesConnectionConfiguration.DiscoveryPort property
Key: IGNITE-15630
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-15630
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Assignee: Raymond Wilson
> Add KubernetesConnectionConfiguration.DiscoveryP
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Sorry, I wrote the original text from the wrong
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Description:
The TcpDiscoveryKubernetesIpFinder hard wires the port passed
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Summary: Add KubernetesConnectionConfiguration.DiscoveryPort property
(was: Expose
Thank you Pavel!
Raymond.
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 7:32 PM, Pavel Tupitsyn wrote:
> Hi Raymond,
>
> I've added you to the Contributors group in JIRA, now you should be able to
> assign issues, change their status, etc.
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 12:25 AM Raymond Wils
Hi,
I have created a Jira ticket I would like to assign to myself:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-15602
Thanks,
Raymond.
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Raymond Wilson commented on IGNITE-15602:
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I have a code fix for this issue that I would like
Raymond Wilson created IGNITE-15602:
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Summary: Expose KubernetesConnectionConfiguration.DiscoveryPort
property
Key: IGNITE-15602
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-15602
Project
an in to an IgniteOutOfMemoryException, despite the fact there was
> plenty of space on disk. Why would it run out of RAM if it can persist data
> above the MaxSize the excess to disk?
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nstall -Pall-java,all-scala,licenses -DskipTests -pl
> modules/kubernetes -am
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> Or possibly exclude only jta module from build.
>
> mvn clean install -Pall-java,all-scala,licenses -DskipTests -pl
> '!modules/jta'
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> 2021-05-12 4:29 GMT+03:00, Raymond Wilson :
> > Hi
pers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Building-Ignite-with-Adopt-OpenJDK-11-td52389.html#a52391
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Vishwas
>
> On Wed, 12 May, 2021, 05:17 Raymond Wilson,
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have made a small modification to the ignite-kubernetes module to all
f :ignite-jta
I found some release notes that indicated the Maven (as of 3.8.1) is no
longer supporting HTTP addresses for dependencies. I downgraded to Maven
3.8.0 with no change to the result.
Is there an easy work around for this?
Thanks,
Raymond.
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Raymond
f :ignite-jta
Is there an easy work around for this?
Thanks,
Raymond.
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Solution Architect, Civil Construction Software Systems (CCSS)
11 Birmingham Drive | Christchurch, New Zealand
raymond_wil...@trimble.com
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gt; }
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> public class LongRunning_DotNet_Task : IComputeFunc
>
> {
>
> public bool Invoke(string[] arg)
>
> {
>
> // do work that takes up to 5 minutes with 12 threads, but
> takes 50 minutes with 48 threads!
>
> return true;
>
>}
>
> }
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