[sage-support] Re: Sage 9.4_20.04 Ubuntu: error relocate-once.py

2021-09-03 Thread John H Palmieri
Also addressed in https://github.com/sagemath/binary-pkg/pull/29 On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:15:02 AM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > Thanks, I've noted this in > https://wiki.sagemath.org/ReleaseTours/sage-9.4#Availability_as_binaries_and_in_distributions > > On Friday, September 3,

Re: [sage-support] Other mailing lists

2021-08-24 Thread John H Palmieri
I believe that most of the traffic these days is on sage-support and sage-devel, rather than the more specialized groups. Feel free to post questions about Sage's algebra capabilities here. On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:03:33 PM UTC-7 H wrote: > On August 23, 2021 7:18:16 PM EDT, David

Re: [sage-devel] Problem Building Sage from Source

2021-08-18 Thread John H Palmieri
(I'm not sure where this comes from, since searching for "givaro" on brew.sh comes up empty.) On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 6:48:10 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > You could try uninstalling homebrew's givaro and/or use `./configure > --with-system-givaro=no` to force S

Re: [sage-devel] Problem Building Sage from Source

2021-08-18 Thread John H Palmieri
You could try uninstalling homebrew's givaro and/or use `./configure --with-system-givaro=no` to force Sage to build its own givaro. On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 4:45:54 PM UTC-7 Brian Sun wrote: > I ran the two commands (and also uninstalled Macaulay2 and the copy of > fflas-ffpack using

[sage-devel] Re: Implementation for representation of 2-knots

2021-08-03 Thread John H Palmieri
I think that more math of almost any sort would be great to add to Sage. Improving the knot and link capabilities would be great! John On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 12:59:13 PM UTC-7 Calvin Godfrey wrote: > First of all, I apologize if this isn't the right place to ask this. I > spent ages

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Library code returning int value

2021-07-14 Thread John H Palmieri
I think that we should prefer tuples to lists when that is appropriate, lists to tuples when that is appropriate. Python has both types for good reasons, I think, and I don't see why we should globally recommend one over the other. On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 7:21:48 PM UTC-7 Kwankyu Lee

Re: [sage-devel] spoken languages and banner translations

2021-07-04 Thread John H Palmieri
Does anyone have experience working with graphic designers? How much would it cost to get a logo designed by a professional? On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: > Oh my, those logos are absolutely atrocious! Never mind the translation: > the text is clipped to

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.4.beta4 released

2021-07-02 Thread John H Palmieri
After seeing the message "Pytest is not installed, skip checking tests that rely on it" a number of times, I decided to install it. There were two files with resulting doctest failures: sage -t --long --warn-long 131.5 --random-seed=0 src/sage/doctest/test.py # 7 doctests failed sage -t

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.4.beta1 released

2021-06-08 Thread John H Palmieri
It builds for me on OS X Big Sur and I see no new doctest failures, but the PDF documentation doesn't build. When building it/a_tour_of_sage, I see this error: ! Package inputenc Error: Unicode character リ (U+30EA) Indeed, the file

[sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org is down

2021-06-05 Thread John H Palmieri
As pointed out in another message, ask.sagemath.org is down. Can anyone help? -- John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[sage-support] Re: loading large file

2021-04-02 Thread John H Palmieri
Another option might have been to preparse separately (using "sage -preparse matp11n2.sage" at the shell prompt) and then load the resulting Python file. John On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:02:38 PM UTC-7 Luis Finotti wrote: > The solution I found was to increase the recursion limit: I did

[sage-support] Re: Cannot install Sage 9.2 on macOS 10.15.7 Catalina

2021-03-28 Thread John H Palmieri
What happens if you install into another location, for example the Desktop? On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:26:28 AM UTC-7 Anscari wrote: > I installed the app you suggested but when I open jupyter I find too many > bugs. I am not even able to access the jupyter folder created using > previous

[sage-devel] Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-07 Thread John H Palmieri
Dear all, You should be aware that ticket #31409 (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31409) intends to downgrade R to an optional package because of difficulties building it on Cygwin. Just letting you know in case you care about R being part of Sage and/or you have ideas about how to fix the

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.3.beta7 released

2021-02-11 Thread John H Palmieri
I just noticed something which has been happening for all of the 9.3 beta releases, maybe before that. In the dochtml.log file, I see the message Help file /Applications/usr/share/giac/doc/fr/aide_cas not found (This is on OS X.) That's a strange path — there is no /Applications/usr — so

Re: [sage-devel] sage -b is broken

2021-02-04 Thread John H Palmieri
finally :-) (not sure bug or feature) >> >> well, >> >> make build >> >> works >> >> On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, 17:05 John H Palmieri, wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure when it happened, but with the latest beta, I see >>> >>>

[sage-devel] sage -b is broken

2021-02-03 Thread John H Palmieri
I'm not sure when it happened, but with the latest beta, I see % ./sage -b Makefile:25: *** This Makefile needs to be invoked by build/make/install. Stop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[sage-devel] Re: Problems with 9.3.beta6 + OS X Big Sur

2021-02-03 Thread John H Palmieri
ket/30589 > > On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:45:37 PM UTC-5 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> On OS X Big Sur (intel), as of the most recent Xcode and homebrew, I am >> currently unable to build Sage with either homebrew's Python or with >> `./configure --with-system-python3

[sage-devel] Problems with 9.3.beta6 + OS X Big Sur

2021-02-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On OS X Big Sur (intel), as of the most recent Xcode and homebrew, I am currently unable to build Sage with either homebrew's Python or with `./configure --with-system-python3=no`. - With homebrew's Python, actually Sage builds but the documentation does not (similar problems on both Big Sur

[sage-devel] Re: Unable to build develop branch

2021-01-23 Thread John H Palmieri
ot;This Makefile needs to be invoked by 'build/make/install'". If I set the > parameter > SAGEPKGCONFIG then it works, but I shouldn't need to do that. > > Dan > > On Friday, January 22, 2021 at 5:16:28 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> Great, I'm glad to

[sage-devel] Re: Unable to build develop branch

2021-01-22 Thread John H Palmieri
t; On Friday, January 22, 2021 at 3:21:10 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> I literally meant "merge that [the branch from #31183] into the develop >> branch" (or vice versa), not just use the branch from #31183. The develop >> branch has some crucial pieces for bu

[sage-devel] Re: Unable to build develop branch

2021-01-22 Thread John H Palmieri
y) > into > the scipy-big-sur branch and that fails to build in scipy again. > > Dan > > On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:09:14 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> Ticket 31183 (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31183) should fix that. >> Merging that into the develop b

[sage-devel] Re: Unable to build develop branch

2021-01-21 Thread John H Palmieri
Ticket 31183 (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31183) should fix that. Merging that into the develop branch works for me. -- John On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:03:55 PM UTC-8 dwb...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm unable to build the develop branch since upgrading my iMac to Big Sur. > I have

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.3.beta5 released

2020-12-28 Thread John H Palmieri
h an error that I don't know how to fix, as reported at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30651. On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 11:10:36 AM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > I've been having problems with computers running Mac OS for several Sage > releases now. With OS X 10.15.7

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.3.beta5 released

2020-12-28 Thread John H Palmieri
I've been having problems with computers running Mac OS for several Sage releases now. With OS X 10.15.7 and a pretty full homebrew installation, cypari fails: cypari2/gen.c:23742:70: error: too many arguments to function call, expected 3, have 4 __pyx_v__ret = asympnum0(__pyx_v__expr,

Re: [sage-support] Re: Install of sage on macOS

2020-12-23 Thread John H Palmieri
The short answer is that Sage is designed for (among others) research mathematicians, who may not have the interest or inclination to learn how to install lots of system packages. So from the beginning it included as many components as possible. Years ago the presence of MacPorts and other

[sage-devel] Re: Installing SageMath on macOS Big Sur 11.1

2020-12-21 Thread John H Palmieri
For what it's worth, I was able to build Sage on 11.0 using homebrew, but since the upgrade to 11.1, the build fails for me. Discussion at #30651 (started at #30589, but should be continued at #30651). On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 2:46:00 PM UTC-8 Samuel Lelievre wrote: > Supporting macOS

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 9.2 fails to build because of cysignals on macos 10.15.7

2020-12-14 Thread John H Palmieri
, 2020 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > Maybe something is going wrong with using the homebrew version of Python — > some conflict somewhere — so could you try > > make distclean > ./configure --with-system-python3=no > make > > (I'm having different problems with t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 9.2 fails to build because of cysignals on macos 10.15.7

2020-12-14 Thread John H Palmieri
Maybe something is going wrong with using the homebrew version of Python — some conflict somewhere — so could you try make distclean ./configure --with-system-python3=no make (I'm having different problems with the system python: see my posts about MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET.) -- John On

[sage-devel] MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET problems

2020-12-14 Thread John H Palmieri
I am having problems building Sage with a recently updated homebrew Python 3.9 on OS X Big Sur, apparently because it sets MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET to 11. (Insert Spinal Tap joke here.) If you run `brew update` on Big Sur, I'm guessing that you will run into this. - There is a problem because

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.3.beta2 released

2020-11-26 Thread John H Palmieri
Dima is suggesting the command locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,''), where just before the parenthesis should be two single quotes. No quotes after the parenthesis. Or if you prefer: locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,"") with two double quotes just before the parenthesis. On Thursday, November 26,

[sage-support] Re: The pip ssl mess on Mac OS X: ways forwards

2020-11-22 Thread John H Palmieri
Is it possible to create a binary distribution that relies on a system Python 3? Those may already be built with ssl support. On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 11:24:45 AM UTC-8 watso...@gmail.com wrote: > > Right now pip doesn't work in the binary distributions due to the absence > of the ssl

Re: [sage-support] The best practices for using SageNB in SagaMath 9.1?

2020-11-18 Thread John H Palmieri
I was hoping that it might be missing dependencies when building sagenb, but when I tried this, it didn't help. Maybe something this will work: ./configure --with-python=2 --enable-sagenb=yes --enable-flask_autoindex=yes --enable-flask_babel=yes --enable-flask=yes

[sage-devel] Re: OS X Big Sur progress report

2020-11-17 Thread John H Palmieri
You can probably eliminate some of the doctest errors with the following hack, which may not be the right way to proceed, but at least for me it allows doctesting to complete. Some of your other errors may be caused by using Python 3.9, and people are working on fixing those. diff --git

Re: [sage-devel] Re: OS X Big Sur progress report

2020-11-16 Thread John H Palmieri
n, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:19 PM John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > In my experience, homebrew's "ntl" package can lead to problems when > building Sage, so if possible, try deleting it. > > Why?! It all works, if you install the recommended by ./configure > list

Re: [sage-devel] Re: OS X Big Sur progress report

2020-11-16 Thread John H Palmieri
In my experience, homebrew's "ntl" package can lead to problems when building Sage, so if possible, try deleting it. I have these packages: % brew list autoconfghcjanssonmpcppl automakeghostscriptjpegmpfipython@3.8 bdw-gcgit

[sage-devel] OS X Big Sur progress report

2020-11-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On the latest "release candidate" for OS X Big Sur + corresponding Xcode and command line tools, Sage now builds for me. With various homebrew packages installed, I can run "./configure" and "make", and the build succeeds. There are a number of doctest failures with the message ld:

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 9.2 does not works in macos Big Sur

2020-11-06 Thread John H Palmieri
I don't think it's a Python problem, but rather a Jupyter problem. It used to be the case, and perhaps still is, that we could not distribute ssl because of licensing issues, so when we build our own Python, it may have broken ssl support. This has been true for a long time, so I think that

Re: [sage-support] SageMath-9.2 does not start with Jupyter on macOS 10.15.7

2020-11-04 Thread John H Palmieri
;>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for helping me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I followed the instructions at the end of ./configure output (brew >>>>>> install ...) >>>>>> >>>>>> I get l

Re: [sage-support] SageMath-9.2 does not start with Jupyter on macOS 10.15.7

2020-11-04 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 11:30:54 PM UTC-8, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > As far as building from source is concerned, I'd recommend using > Homebrew, instead of trying > to build most packages from scratch (as it is the case if you don't use > it). > Please pay attention that you need to

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.3.beta0 released

2020-11-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 1:38:37 PM UTC-8, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 21:36 David Coudert, > wrote: > >> So should we open a ticket to add it and hope it will be included in next >> beta or is there a trick to force the installation of giac ? >> > "make giac"

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.3.beta0 released

2020-11-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:29:31 AM UTC-8, David Coudert wrote: > > Hello, > > I’m unable to build beta0 on macOS 10.15.7 :( > > I did: > $ make distclean > $ ./bootstrap > $ source .homebrew-build-env > $ ./configure > > Then, I followed the recommandation and did: > $ brew install pandoc

Re: [sage-devel] Error installing package gap_packages-4.10.2.p1

2020-10-27 Thread John H Palmieri
The relevant ticket is https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30720, which has not yet been applied. (I'm guessing that this is because the problem was fixed recently and gap_packages is an optional package, so the ticket did not have super high priority.) -- John On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at

[sage-support] Re: persistent homology?

2020-10-15 Thread John H Palmieri
No, I do not believe so. On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 10:22:36 AM UTC-7, Linden Disney wrote: > > I am just starting a project involving persistent homology, did anything > end up happening with this? > > On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 1:55:30 AM UTC+1 slelievre wrote: > >> Tue

Re: [sage-support] Re: problem compiling sage-9.2.rc0 on big sur, xcode 12.01

2020-10-07 Thread John H Palmieri
. On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 12:55:50 PM UTC-7, David Joyner wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:06 PM John H Palmieri > wrote: > >> Building Sage on Big Sur is being tracked at >> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30651; see also >> https://trac.sagemath.or

[sage-support] Re: problem compiling sage-9.2.rc0 on big sur, xcode 12.01

2020-10-07 Thread John H Palmieri
Building Sage on Big Sur is being tracked at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30651; see also https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30494. Do you have homebrew installed, and if so, which packages? You could try forcing Sage to build its own zlib, for example, to try to get Sage's Python to find

[sage-devel] Re: Question about building fflas_ffpack

2020-10-04 Thread John H Palmieri
That's funny, I just hit the same problem. The solution is to run 'make toolchain' first. (This should happen automatically when you run make, which is why that succeeds.) See https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30721. On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:01:18 PM UTC-7, Zachary Scherr wrote: > > In

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.2.beta14 released

2020-10-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Please also provide the top-level config.log. On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 5:11:01 AM UTC-7, Kenji Iohara wrote: > > On OS X.15.7 with Xcode 12, I couldn’t compile > >pynac-0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03.p0 > > . Here is its log-file. > -- You received this message because you are

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta14 released

2020-09-30 Thread John H Palmieri
Builds for me on OS X 10.15.7 (Catalina) with Xcode 12, both with a full homebrew installation, and then also using only some homebrew packages: ./configure --with-system-readline=no --with-system-openblas=no --with-system-r=no --with-system-gsl-no --with-system-suitesparse=no On

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.2.beta13 released

2020-09-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 10:32:05 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > For openblas and readline, I suggest using homebrew's versions of those > packages. For symmetrica, there is an upgrade at > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29061 which seems to fix the problem. > F

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.2.beta13 released

2020-09-21 Thread John H Palmieri
For openblas and readline, I suggest using homebrew's versions of those packages. For symmetrica, there is an upgrade at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29061 which seems to fix the problem. For scipy (which you probably haven't reached in your build and which will probably fail when you do),

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.2.beta12 released

2020-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
-k, I get the failure building > > gf2x > openblas > readline > ecm > symmetrica > rubiks > > > > > > 2020/09/17 19:54、John H Palmieri >のメール: > > See also https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30494 > > > On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 10:36:06

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.2.beta12 released

2020-09-17 Thread John H Palmieri
See also https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30494 On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 10:36:06 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > With the newly released Xcode 12, if I run "make -k", I get failures > building > > ecl > ecm > gf2x > rubiks (which is about to be

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.2.beta12 released

2020-09-17 Thread John H Palmieri
With the newly released Xcode 12, if I run "make -k", I get failures building ecl ecm gf2x rubiks (which is about to be downgraded to optional, so I don't care) scipy symmetrica The good news is that 141 other packages built successfully. See also the thread

[sage-devel] Policy proposal: spkg-configure.m4 script for all new standard Sage packages

2020-09-09 Thread John H Palmieri
I have a Sage policy proposal: - For any new standard Sage package PKG, we strongly recommend, require if at all possible, that the package comes with an spkg-configure.m4 script in build/pkgs/PKG. There should also be a directory build/pkgs/PKG/distros. Neither the spkg-configure.m4 file nor

[sage-devel] Re: What should Sage import by default?

2020-09-08 Thread John H Palmieri
; It would be nice to have a different entry point to Sage that has > *dramatically* less imported by default. By I don't think it should be the > default, just because of backward compatibility. > > William > > On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 12:35:38 AM UTC-7 Nils Bruin

Re: [sage-devel] trouble with oeis and ssl

2020-09-07 Thread John H Palmieri
clean is necessary. I tried both to no > avail. Thank you anyway! > > John H Palmieri schrieb am Montag, 7. September 2020 um 20:29:07 UTC+2: > >> >> >> On Monday, September 7, 2020 at 11:27:15 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: >>> >>> You coul

Re: [sage-devel] trouble with oeis and ssl

2020-09-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, September 7, 2020 at 11:27:15 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > You could do > > ./configure --enable-openssl=yes > make > > or atlernatively > > make openssl > make > And the second of these (make openssl; make) might be better because it sh

Re: [sage-devel] trouble with oeis and ssl

2020-09-07 Thread John H Palmieri
You could do ./configure --enable-openssl=yes make or atlernatively make openssl make On Monday, September 7, 2020 at 11:09:07 AM UTC-7, Martin R wrote: > > unfortunately, no. > > What I don't quite understand: I can do sage -i openssl only *after* I > built sage, but python3 is built at the

Re: [sage-support] compiling fails with 'boost/preprocessor/cat.hpp' file not found

2020-09-04 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:23:30 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:31 PM John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 7:14:24 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >> > >> > &g

[sage-devel] Re: Unittests vs doctests

2020-09-04 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 7:02:27 AM UTC-7, tobia...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > I'm currently in the progress of cleaning up my code implementing > symplectic structures in sage. While doing so, I noticed that there are a > lot of doctests in the existing code that test rather

Re: [sage-support] compiling fails with 'boost/preprocessor/cat.hpp' file not found

2020-09-04 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 7:14:24 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:55 PM Szabolcs Horvát > wrote: > > > Thanks for the response. I do have boost installed in > /opt/local/include, through MacPorts, but I remove MacPorts from the PATH > before building

Re: [sage-support] compile problem for sage 9.2.b9 on mac 11.0 big sur

2020-09-02 Thread John H Palmieri
indicate that the configure script is confused about cross compiling > to a different architecture. > > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:59:59 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:52:37 PM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote:

Re: [sage-support] compile problem for sage 9.2.b9 on mac 11.0 big sur

2020-09-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:52:37 PM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:59:14 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > >> If I do install Python 3.7, then gf2x and ecm both fail to build. The >> gf2x log file says "configure: error: Can

[sage-devel] What should Sage import by default?

2020-09-01 Thread John H Palmieri
There is a ticket (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25383) about removing some Sage functions from the global namespace, which I think is a good idea. But Sage also imports some Python modules: - os - sys - operator - math - warnings Should we keep all of these? Remove all? Keep some? --

Re: [sage-support] compile problem for sage 9.2.b9 on mac 11.0 big sur

2020-09-01 Thread John H Palmieri
hout underscore." On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:38:47 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > I've been trying to build on Big Sur, too. I removed the > MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET lines from sage-env, but the Python build still > fails. The log file is attached. Any suggestions (besi

Re: [sage-support] compile problem for sage 9.2.b9 on mac 11.0 big sur

2020-09-01 Thread John H Palmieri
I've been trying to build on Big Sur, too. I removed the MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET lines from sage-env, but the Python build still fails. The log file is attached. Any suggestions (besides installing a different system version of Python)? John On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 3:44:01 PM UTC-7

[sage-support] Is our toric varieties documentation misleading and/or wrong?

2020-08-27 Thread John H Palmieri
See https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3802874/does-isomorphic-mathbb-q-cohomology-implies-isomorphic-mathbb-z-cohomology/3803623#3803623 Can someone who knows the mathematics decide whether this is an issue that needs to be fixed, or whether the documentation could be clarified? --

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-7, Markus Wageringel wrote: > > With Neovim as editor, the same warning appears in its builtin terminal, > followed by some error messages that break the REPL. Luckily, upgrading > Neovim from 0.2.2 to 0.4.3 fixed it on my end. > Does

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 12:24:05 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Thu, 13 Aug 2020, 20:03 John H Palmieri, > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-7, Samuel Lelievre wrote: >>> >>> I opened

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-7, Samuel Lelievre wrote: > > I opened a ticket for the issue reported by John: > > - Fix building html documentation on macOS > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30351 > > I tried applying #30345 but the problem persisted. > Then I realised Dima

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-13 Thread John H Palmieri
What happens if you do "make doc-clean; make"? On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 12:36:42 AM UTC-7, David Coudert wrote: > > on my side, incremental build from beta7 (including documentation) on OSX > went well. > > Le 13 août 2020 à 07:35, John H Palmieri > a écri

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-13 Thread John H Palmieri
ert > wrote: > > > > on my side, incremental build from beta7 (including documentation) on > OSX went well. > > > > Le 13 août 2020 à 07:35, John H Palmieri > a écrit : > > > > I'm having a problem with this on OS X: both with an incremental u

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-12 Thread John H Palmieri
I'm having a problem with this on OS X: both with an incremental upgrade (after doing "make doc-clean") and a build from scratch, the build hangs during the docbuilding stage. If I manually build "constructions" and "thematic_tutorials" with "sage --docbuild constructions html" etc., the build

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-11 Thread John H Palmieri
:38:00 UTC+2, John H Palmieri a écrit : >> >> It's version 26.3. I also just quit emacs and restarted, and now I'm >> having the same problems you were having. Modifying 'src/bin/sage' to >> accept a '--simple-prompt' >> > > How do you do that ? Care

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-11 Thread John H Palmieri
; John, what is your current emacs version ? > ​ > > > Le mardi 11 août 2020 18:26:04 UTC+2, John H Palmieri a écrit : >> >> I had no experience with sage-shell-mode until about 5 minutes ago, but >> it works for me, except for some weird artifacts when it reprints

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.2.beta8 released

2020-08-11 Thread John H Palmieri
I had no experience with sage-shell-mode until about 5 minutes ago, but it works for me, except for some weird artifacts when it reprints what I typed at the command line: ┌┐ │ SageMath version 9.2.beta8, Release Date:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ./sage -b yields error

2020-08-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Running "make build" should be a good replacement. On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 2:13:02 PM UTC-7, Chase Meadors wrote: > > Is there an easy workaround for this on until the fix is merged? e.g. how > can I accomplish the same thing as "sage -b"? I'm on beta6 by the way. > > On Saturday, July

[sage-devel] Re: Bug or oversight ? install_scripts doesn't install script for singular or mwrank

2020-07-23 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 9:31:07 AM UTC-7, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 3:13:22 AM UTC-7, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> >> The install-script() utility did install gap and maxima scripts invoking >> sage with the relevant switches and arguments. However, it did

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Graded modules over the Steenrod algebra: The degree of zero elements

2020-07-19 Thread John H Palmieri
r the user, this means in particular that when >> constructing the zero element, its degree must be given: >> >> sage: A = SteenrodAlgebra(p=2) >> sage: z = A.zero(degree=2) >> sage: Sq(1)*Sq(1) == z >> True >> sage: Sq(2)*Sq(1

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Graded modules over the Steenrod algebra: The degree of zero elements

2020-07-18 Thread John H Palmieri
a to zero elements, and > change the behaviour of degree() such that it raises an exception only for > inhomogeneous elements. > > I hope I have clearified that I am not seeking a strange new definition of > graded module or algebra, and that I am merely wanting to discuss the > possibi

[sage-devel] Re: Graded modules over the Steenrod algebra: The degree of zero elements

2020-07-18 Thread John H Palmieri
allow nonhomogeneous elements? That could be another way to simplify things. - John On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 3:28:56 PM UTC-7, Sverre Lunøe-Nielsen wrote: > > > On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 11:31:43 PM UTC+2, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> In any case where the degre

[sage-devel] Re: Graded modules over the Steenrod algebra: The degree of zero elements

2020-07-18 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, Sverre Lunøe-Nielsen wrote: > > Dear list, > > I have been involved in preparing a package by M. Catanzaro and R. Bruner > lately, which implements finitely presented modules over the mod `p` > Steenrod algebra. > > We have encountered a conflict

[sage-support] Re: Question about a deprecation warning

2020-07-10 Thread John H Palmieri
Does IPython have a preparser? On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 11:43:36 PM UTC-7, Kwankyu wrote: > > Because of the preparser? > > On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 9:19:58 AM UTC+9 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 4:39:1

Re: [sphinx-users] ANN: Sphinx-3.1.1 is out

2020-07-06 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:13:11 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 4:01:48 AM UTC-7, Matthias Geier wrote: >> >> Hi John and Jörg (and everyone else). >> >> This appeared in version 3.1.0 and has already been reported

[sage-support] Re: Question about a deprecation warning

2020-07-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-7, Antonio Rojas wrote: >> >> >> >> El miércoles, 1 de julio de 2020, 21:06:43 (UTC+2), John H Palmieri >> escribió: >>>

[sage-support] Re: Question about a deprecation warning

2020-07-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-7, Antonio Rojas wrote: > > > > El miércoles, 1 de julio de 2020, 21:06:43 (UTC+2), John H Palmieri > escribió: >> >> >> Why so many deprecation warnings? I think they're coming from plain >> Python

[sage-support] Question about a deprecation warning

2020-07-01 Thread John H Palmieri
This puzzles me: evaluating '\i' in Python 3 just gives '\i'. Same with IPython. Evaluating it in Sage prints many warning messages: the following is from a fresh Sage session, and I only evaluated '\i' once, despite the appearance: % sage

Re: [sphinx-users] ANN: Sphinx-3.1.1 is out

2020-06-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 4:01:48 AM UTC-7, Matthias Geier wrote: > > Hi John and Jörg (and everyone else). > > This appeared in version 3.1.0 and has already been reported at > https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/issues/7838. > > > I had postponed the task of debugging that particular

Re: [sphinx-users] ANN: Sphinx-3.1.1 is out

2020-06-29 Thread John H Palmieri
It looks to me like spacing for bulleted lists changed in html builds: there is more space between lines in bulleted lists with 3.1.1 as compared to 3.0.4. I didn't see anything in the change log about it; does anyone else see this? I see this with `sphinx-quickstart` and a file `index.rst`

[sage-support] Re: bug in CirculantGraph(10,[2,4])?

2020-06-29 Thread John H Palmieri
According to wikipedia, graphs.CirculantGraph(n, [j_1, j_2, ...]) is connected if and only if gcd(n, j_1, j_2, ...) = 1. In this case, the gcd is 2. If Sage's definition is correct, it's defined as having 10 vertices, and vertex i is connected to vertices i+2, i-2, i+4, i-4, then even vertices

[sage-devel] Re: Problems building and installing under Fedora 32

2020-06-15 Thread John H Palmieri
Don't use SAGE_CHECK=yes, or at least disable testing for the nose package: it is known to fail its test suite. (See https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/28727, for example.) If you want to keep SAGE_CHECK=yes in general, then temporarily turn it off, install nose (with `sage -i nose`), and then

[sage-support] Conda install: docs?

2020-06-14 Thread John H Palmieri
When I follow the directions at https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/conda.html#sec-installation-conda for installing via conda, it seems that the Sage documentation is not built, and furthermore, it is not clear to me how to build it. Am I missing something? See also

[sage-devel] Re: unicode and pdf documentation build failure

2020-06-02 Thread John H Palmieri
Hi Travis, Can you add a command to `latex_elements['preamble']` in src/sage/docs/conf.py`? There are a lot of unicode characters defined there already. \DeclareUnicodeCharacter{26AC}{\circ} or something like that? On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 8:24:52 PM UTC-7, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > > Hi

Re: [sage-devel] Problem building R on 10.15.5 with homebrew

2020-06-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 6:39:11 PM UTC-7, Zachary Scherr wrote: > > Hi Dima, > >It looks like both were already linked but I ended up reinstalling them > and everything worked, thank you so much. > > In general, do you recommend installing libraries like flint from >

Re: [sage-devel] upgrading to latest stable version

2020-06-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Did you follow the suggestion at the end of running 'configure'? # To automatically take care of homebrew messages regarding # keg-only packages for the current shell session: $ source /Applications/sage/.homebrew-build-env The plan, by the way, is to eventually require running `./configure`

Re: [sage-devel] line length in docstring and tests

2020-05-30 Thread John H Palmieri
It seems that over 80% of the files in the Sage library have lines longer than 80 characters, and about 50% of files have lines in doctests which are longer than 80 characters. On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 9:14:59 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Lines should be shorter than 80 char

Re: [sage-devel] line length in docstring and tests

2020-05-30 Thread John H Palmieri
Just for kicks, I counted the number of .py and .pyx files in the Sage library, and then counted the ones with lines longer than 80 characters in their docstrings/doctests. 84% of them had such lines. On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 9:14:59 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Lines

Re: [sage-devel] line length in docstring and tests

2020-05-30 Thread John H Palmieri
Lines should be shorter than 80 characters when possible. If it isn't possible because it will cause confusion, break a doctest, make a doctest unhelpful, etc., then you can make an exception. There are plenty of exceptions in the Sage library already, for example

[sage-devel] Re: 9.2 Beta0 build issue under Ubuntu 19.10

2020-05-29 Thread John H Palmieri
The glpk test failures are being discussed at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29493. On Friday, May 29, 2020 at 1:19:51 PM UTC-7, Andy Howell wrote: > > I originally sent this to sage-release when 9.1 was released. I see the > same test failures under 9.2.beta0. I didn't see a way to make

Re: [sage-devel] New Python version requirement for Sage?

2020-05-27 Thread John H Palmieri
The particular ticket in question deals with matplotlib, which has Python as a dependency, so I think we can safely build with "Sage's Python 3", which should be at least 3.6. If we can accommodate older version of Python for the rest of the Sage build — and I think we can, given the current

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