It is number of unique devices. It wouldn't be a count of each connection.
That would be... stupid.
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote:
So then does the dashboard count each MEID/IMEI connecting within the
given time period only once, regardless of
Then we can certainly agree that the dashboard figures are a much
better measure of how many 1.5 and 1.6 devices are out there than the
downloads of any one popular app.
And yes, that other count would have been stupid; but I have seen even
more stupid things hidden under such vague language as
Can I suggest calling an end to the thread? We're now way off topic
from what the OP wants, and most posts to it seem to end up as troll
food.
Al.
On Jul 11, 7:03 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
It is number of unique devices. It wouldn't be a count of each connection.
That
So then does the dashboard count each MEID/IMEI connecting within the
given time period only once, regardless of how many times it connects
and reconnects to the Market? If not, then no, it is not pretty much
the exact data they want, because it is skewed by how often devices
connect and
Only 20 years? I have you beat there. But more importantly, your
review of key points is still seriously deficient in logic. Your
conclusions still do not follow. Repeating conclusions that do not
follow IS a mark of being uneducated, no matter how much experience
you have.
The G1 is not yet
What is your source for this 88% figure? If it is correct, then how do
you explain the fact that the dashboard shows 45% of phones connecting
to the Market are not even running 2.x yet? 45+88100, after all.
On Jul 8, 6:01 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com
wrote:
I suppose
I'm going to skip the personal insults aimed at me (which will make
this a short reply).
The dictionary.com definition of obsolete says; of a discarded or
outmoded type; out of date, which, as the G1 is no longer on sale as
an unlocked developer 'phone and has no officially supported firmware
John has a very popular app which he keeps stats on. Last I hear he
was about to break the half million download mark and was clocking up
around 5,000 downloads a day.
Some of the devices he lists in his 88% figure run versions of Android
prior to 2.0 in some countries, but updates to Android 2.x
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote:
John has a very popular app which he keeps stats on. Last I hear he
was about to break the half million download mark and was clocking up
around 5,000 downloads a day.
Bear in mind, though, that his app will be much more
Mark is correct, my stats are for US only. I should have clarified
that when I stated device stats. I believe they are more or less
relevant in regard to the G1 vs. all the other devices though, so for
the average developer looking for a representative device, something
other than the original G1
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On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote:
Only 20 years? I have you beat there. But more importantly, your
review of key points is still seriously deficient in logic. Your
conclusions still do not follow. Repeating conclusions that do not
follow
Very good points mentioned so far.
In November 2009, I decided to get a G1 for cheap from craigslist when
I was just starting. At the time, that was the right choice.
The G1 has two advantages:
1. It's likely to be the slowest real hardware, which is good to see
how your app performs.
However,
There's a hack to get Market on an Archos device, but it's not
sanctioned by Google, not supported by Google or Archos, and relies on
users willing to apply the hack knowing they won't get any support,
and so is probably not widespread.
Archoses devices tend to fall short of Googles requirements
It may seem to you to fit, but that is only because, as I said, you
are not interpreting basic English logically. That is the point I have
been trying to explain to you all this time. Yet you miss it every
time, preferring to see insult instead.
Perhaps you will get it from an example of a truly
Well, congratulations to John on the success of his app. But you seem
to be implying that that is where he is getting his 88% figure from,
and if you ever took even just one semester of statistics in college,
you should know what an unreliable sample downloads of his app are.
Why, even the figure
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote:
Why, even the figure Google likes to use, the source for my 45% using
1.5 or 1.6, is far from ideal: but it is almost certainly a better
measure of the number of phones out there with given version# than
downloads of
G1 obsolete? Well, almost. But take a look at the famous Platform
Version 'dashboard' at
http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html.
It shows that as many as 21.3% of phones connecting to the market are
still on 1.5. 45% are running 1.6 or 1.5.
So by that standard
It's highly unlikely the G1 will ever see an official update to
Android 2.x or higher, so it is obsolete.
In the OPs shoes I personally would put the money towards a better
computer as it'll most likely make the whole development process more
pleasant.
Al.
On Jul 8, 7:32 am, Indicator Veritatis
Not just ATT all major carriers in US are getting the GalaxyS counterparts
..
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/bbs/stars.ThreadBoard.do?starMbrId=SteveHaviewType=rssmessageId=87666
-Dan
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote:
It's highly unlikely the G1 will
I suppose you're still using that 8086 with the fancy 10 meg hard
drive?
While the G1 may be a nostalgic look at what Android was (2% of
devices), the reality of the situation is that most users have a
Droid, Hero, Evo, Incredible, Moment, Magic or Eris (88% of devices).
-John Coryat
--
You
The G1 can do everything,only his speed.
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2010/7/9 Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com
I suppose you're still using that 8086 with the fancy 10 meg hard
drive?
While the G1 may be a nostalgic look at what Android was (2% of
devices), the reality of the
I've only been developing software for 20 years, but if you want to
consider me uneducated, then I guess that's your call.
To me if you can't buy a device for the purpose you want to use it,
the devices firmware hasn't officially been updated for a few revision
of the OS it's running, and all the
I am doing much as you are considering: using a G1 for development,
only rarely putting my ATT sim into it. I usually connect by WiFi.
My impressions of the G1, based on this one unit only, are: 1) it is
rather slow, often to the point of being unresponsive to UI 2) WiFi
connection is NOT
My personal opinion here...
Don't get a G1 - they are obsolete, hardly any of them exist in the
real world and they are stuck on Android 1.6.
If you want to get a good device that is the most popular one, get a
Motorola Droid, the one with the keyboard. There are more of these in
the wild than
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