Re: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 8/4/05, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theophilus, Patriarch of Alexandria, starts heavy persecutions against theGentiles, turns the Temple of Dionysos into a Christian church, burns downthe Mithraeum of the city, destroys the Temple of Zeus and burlesque the pagan priests before

Re: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 8/4/05, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Gilberto, Mob violence (which usually involves throwing rocks) cannot be equated with executions by stoning. I think it depends on the degree to which the mob represents the values of the community as a whole. For

RE: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Susan Maneck
Where do you get the concept of anomaly from. I thought you were a nominalist. There is no such thing as an ideal real typical Christian. The Reconstructionists are no less Christian than anyone else. Dear Gilberto, Would you say the same thing about Osama ben Laden? I'm not trying to define

Re: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 8/5/05, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where do you get the concept of anomaly from. I thought you were anominalist. There is no such thing as an ideal real typical Christian.The Reconstructionists are no less Christian than anyone else. Dear Gilberto,Would you say the same thing

RE: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Susan Maneck
The Reconstructionalists are one modern group, but from the very beginning of Christianity, there have been MANY different groups which in various respects have looked at the commandments of the Old Testament and said, hey there is a lot of good stuff in here that we should still be doing. Dear

Re: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 8/5/05, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Reconstructionalists are one modern group, but from the very beginningof Christianity, there have been MANY different groups which in variousrespects have looked at the commandments of the Old Testament and said, hey there is a lot of good

RE: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Mark A. Foster
Susan, At 03:04 AM 8/5/2005, you wrote: I think, by the way, you are vastely overestimating the numbers of Christian Reconstructionalists. As Mark pointed out, Gary North went over to Christian Identity. Fundamentalists have become increasingly politicized over the past thirty years, but very,

CAn we sue?

2005-08-05 Thread marylou9
Dear friends, here is a question Is there anything in the Writings or teachings about bringing a sue? For example would Bahais be able to sue for medical malpractice. I feel i read somewhere that there is to be no suing or no strikes.. CAn you please clarify for me thanks MArylou

RE: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Susan Maneck
When separated from Calvinism, these views are generally called dominion theology. Dear Mark, I though dominion theology *was* Calvinistic. For instance, Pat Robertson, while a dispensational premillennialist, has taken some ideas developed by Rushdoony, whom he admires a great deal, and used

Re: CAn we sue?

2005-08-05 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Marylou, At 10:01 AM 8/5/2005, you wrote: I feel i read somewhere that there is to be no suing or no strikes. CAn you please clarify for me There is no prohibition against suing. To my knowledge, it is not even discouraged. I once sued a company myself (a vacuum cleaner company) - and

definitions needed (take your time)

2005-08-05 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
Title: definitions needed (take your time) Certain definitions are needed dear Mark Please take your time dear Mark and Susan and give good, clear definitions (but most importantly the IMPLICATIONS ) for us of these ISMs PRE-MILLENIALISM POSTMILLENIALISM PRETERISM DOMINION THEONOMY

RE: ...a humiliating torment

2005-08-05 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Susan, At 10:24 AM 8/5/2005, you wrote: I though dominion theology *was* Calvinistic. The terminology is sometimes confusing. However, no, dominion theology is generally the term used for kingdom now theology, a pentecostal approach (also called latter rain) inspired by William Branham.

RE: CAn we sue?

2005-08-05 Thread Susan Maneck
Dear Marylou, Is there anything in the Writings or teachings about bringing a sue? For example would Bahais be able to sue for medical malpractice. Certainly. Baha'is are discouraged from taking disputes with one another to civil courts and are encouraged to use Baha'i institutions instead.

RE: CAn we sue?

2005-08-05 Thread Hasan Elias
Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Baha'is are discouraged from taking disputes with one another to civilcourts and are encouraged to use Baha'i institutions instead. But thiswouldn't apply to disputes with non-Baha'is". *** Dear Susan, is not so easy to see the limits of this

RE: CAn we sue?

2005-08-05 Thread Hasan Elias
Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Baha'is are discouraged from taking disputes with one another to civilcourts and are encouraged to use Baha'i institutions instead. But thiswouldn't apply to disputes with non-Baha'is". *** Dear Susan, is not so easy to see the limits of this

RE: CAn we sue?

2005-08-05 Thread Susan Maneck
Dear Susan, is not so easy to see the limits of this discouragement, I think it is Ok for , but until Bahá'í Courts come to existence, there would be problems with serious cases, in these situations, civil/judicial actions as well as bahá'í administrative actions are encouraged, don't you think?

Re: definitions needed (take your time)

2005-08-05 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Khazeh, At 10:41 AM 8/5/2005, you wrote: PRE-MILLENIALISM There are several versions of this approach to eschatology, mostly related to the timing of the rapture/translation of the church (pre-trib, mid-trib, and post-trib), but, generally speaking, a premillennialist believes that Christ