Re: Reflections on Growth

2004-12-29 Thread Smaneck
Whoops, I see that didn't work! Let me try something else. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the

RE: Reflections on Growth

2004-12-29 Thread Susan Maneck
Okay, let's try it again. Reflections on Growth Number 1 March 2004 Intensive Growth in Advanced Clusters During the past year in a number of countries, greater attention was given to expansion in advanced clusters. The most systematic approach to date is emerging in Asia, where the

Re: Reflections re:hyperbole

2004-08-22 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
we must accept that they are realities that cannot be defined in a rigourous manner, as one would attempt to define the terms of mathematics or even of philosophy. This is a realm of knowledge in which poetry, analogy, hyperbole and paradox are to be expected; a realm in which the Manifestations

Re: Reflections

2004-08-21 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Neither officially nor in reality my friend. - Original Message - From: Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 9:40 PM Subject: Re: Reflections Richard, At 08:45 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote: There can never be a contradiction

Re: Reflections

2004-08-21 Thread Mark A. Foster
Richard, At 01:45 PM 8/21/2004, you wrote: Neither officially nor in reality my friend. It depends on how one defines contradictions. I take statements about an absence of contradictions in Baha'i primary sources as having a pragmatic, not really a theological, significance. In other words,

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Mark A. Foster
Richard, At 11:18 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote: Why is an apparently factual statement made by Abdu'l-Baha an hyperbolic statement in your view? After the initial phase in the American invasion of Iraq, there were reports in the Western media that almost everything as taken from the Baghdad Art

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Hasan Elias
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger" This could be a "hyperbole" for people who eat meat. sorry for the joke ;) "...religious truth is not absolute but relative..." Shoghi EffendiDo You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo!

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Hasan Elias
"Mark A. Foster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even more so for vegetarians. ;-) I agree ;), I remember that the beloved Master sometimes jokes about cows with finest humor sense. Does anyone remember one? "...religious truth is not absolute but relative..." Shoghi EffendiDo You Yahoo!? Todo lo que

RE: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Brill de Ramirez, Susan
PROTECTED]; (309) 677-3888; fax (309) 677-2330 -Original Message- From: Richard H. Gravelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:22 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: Reflections Thank you Susan, Why would I look at Abu'l-Baha's statement regarding cannibalism

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Susan Maneck
Why would I look at Abu'l-Baha's statement regarding cannibalism amongst the men of the Sudan as hyperbole? Why would a statement of fact be hyperbole in your view? Dear Richard, Actually, I've never heard of cannibalism being a problem in the Sudan, but since the word means

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
was and is: given that Abdu'l-Baha's statement was a statement of fact, how would it be considered hyperbole? Richard. - Original Message - From: Brill de Ramirez, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Reflections Richard

Re: Reflections re:hyperbole

2004-08-20 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 8/20/2004 9:00:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you give me a source for the Universal House of Justice comment on "hyperbole" ? "we must accept that they are realities that cannot be defined in a rigourous manner, as one would attempt to define the

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
is it an hyperbole? Richard. - Original Message - From: Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Reflections Why would I look at Abu'l-Baha's statement regarding cannibalism amongst the men of the Sudan

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Mark A. Foster
Richard, At 04:28 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote: Why would I apply such a standard [of hyperbole] to what has been said by Abdu'l-Baha? That is a very broad question. Which statements by `Abdu'l-Baha? Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie

Re: Reflections re:hyperbole

2004-08-20 Thread Mark A. Foster
There is a good discussion of hyperbole, including the excerpt from the letter Susan posted, in this article by Seena Fazel: http://bahai-library.com/articles/exclusivist.html Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoffman

Re: Reflections

2004-08-20 Thread Mark A. Foster
Richard, At 08:45 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote: There can never be a contradiction between what Abdu'l-Baha has said and Shoghi Effendi's interpretation. Not officially. Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the best hamburger -- Mark Twain and Abbie Hoffman

Re: Reflections

2004-08-19 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
In my view, the same figure of speech, mubalaghah, is used by `Abdu'l-Baha when referring to the past accomplishments of Persians. Mark, Why is an apparently factual statement made by Abdu'l-Baha an hyperbolic statement in your view? Richard.