Hi, Susan,
At 09:48 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote:
In the case of Mormonism there is strong evidence to suggest that on the
global scale they are experiencing the same stagnation as we are:
http://www.cumorah.com/report.htmlhttp://www.cumorah.com/report.html
Yes, I was referring to American
Mark:Personally, I doubt that Mormonism would have similar global appeal as in the U.S. It is, in many ways, the ultimate religion of American romanticism. JS:
And I think for this reason it is surprising that Islam and the Baha'i Faith have grown so fast in the US (Islam recently and Baha'i
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:03:26 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark:
Personally, I doubt that Mormonism would have similar global appeal as in
the U.S. It is, in many ways, the ultimate religion of American romanticism.
JS:
And I think for this reason it is surprising that
Personally, I doubt that Mormonism would have similar global appeal as in
the U.S.
Exactly. We are doing much better in Africa and Asia where their figures are
only about a half of million.
It is, in many ways, the ultimate religion of American romanticism.
Which is why I doubt it is
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:11:52 -0800 (PST), louise mchenry
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Hi Gilberto,
thanks for your response. Food for thought and a challenge to make my
understanding and thoughts more clear.
Glad to oblige.
My question was: how can religion by itself do this? [reform
Gilberto,
At 10:54 AM 1/25/2005, you wrote:
It's the individualists who throw off traditional scholarship who are the
extremists.
But isn't that what the 19th-century higher critics were doing - throwing off
traditional scholarship?
Regards, Mark A. Foster http://markfoster.net [EMAIL
Thanks
From: Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Subject: Re: punishment of crimes - was arson.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:38:51 -0600
James,
At 10:30 AM 1/25/2005, you wrote:
What is the basis of this statement
Are there any current statistics
available that show comparative numbers of Baha'is from year to year?
Such statistics would be interesting.
Dear James,
On the global level, or within the US? US statistics exist and they indicate
we definitely experienced a decline this year. Do you want me to
Janine I would be so as well, unless it was said by someone who I think is speaking with God's authority. Baha'u'llah is someone Who has that authority, for me,G: Yes, alot of these arguments really do just boil down to thatpoint. If you believe the Bahai claims about Bahaullah then
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To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Subject: RE: punishment of crimes - was arson.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:02:03 -0600
Are there any current statistics
available that show comparative numbers of Baha'is from year to year?
Such statistics would be interesting.
Dear James,
On the global
Hi, Janine,
At 07:17 AM 1/24/2005, you wrote:
The problem I see is that various religions have different views on how
things should be handled. all religions except the Bahai faith have priests
and different schools of thought.
Actually, there are many religions which do not have clergy,
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:17:28 -0800 (PST), louise mchenry
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Janine:
The problem I see is that various religions have different views on how
things should be handled. all religions except the Bahai faith have priests
and different schools of thought.
Gilberto:
I know
In a message dated 1/24/2005 8:11:22 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I believe that each Bahai has their own version of the Bahai faith.
And it is the love each baha`i has in his heart for Baha`u'llah that keeps it united. The love expressed as trust in Baha`u'llah's laws,
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:55:33 -0800 (PST), louise mchenry
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HI Gilberto,
It seems I did not make myself clear. I apologise. I made some remarks in
that post which showed forth my ignorance ;o)
First, I assumed from your post that you meant that religion needs to
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:05:10 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/24/2005 8:53:18 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
History
After Charles Mason Remey's proclamation in 1960 that he was the
second Guardian of the Baha'i Faith, his followers
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:17:26 -0800 (PST), louise mchenry
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Yep.
but they are not considered bahais. They call themselves Orthodox Bahais.
Despite that they call themselves Bahai and see themselves as followers of
Baha;u;llah, yet they have violated the covenant, because
Hi, Janine,
At 08:11 AM 1/24/2005, you wrote:
about the Bahai faith: what I feel is that there are different ideas in the
Bahai faith because people are different.
Yes, I think that would be true by definition.
My take is that one idea cannot develop in a different school of thought
leading
In a message dated 1/24/2005 10:40:20 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Didn't the French NSA approve of Remey's claims at the time? Werethere only 200 Bahais in France at the time?
Five of the NSA voted to go with Remey. The Hands sent in a couple representatives and declared
In a message dated 1/24/2005 10:40:20 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Look. All I'm really saying is that it is insulting to cast all sortsof negative aspersions on other religions for being split, when yourown religion has obvious splits. It's like this massive act of
These stats are 10 years old, but they are still basically accurate:
Catholic 968,000,000
Protestant 395,867,000
Other Christians 275,583,000
Orthodox 217,948,000
Anglicans 70,530,000
http://adherents.com/adh_branches.html#Christianity
Even throwing in other Christians and Anglicans, there
Gilberto,
At 05:29 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote:
If so perhaps *all* the followers of Bahaullah are declining.
Stagnating, not necessarily declining. Most religions are not growing. Notable
exceptions are some of the branches of Islam, the pentecostal-charismatic
movement, Mormonism, and the
Hi Gilberto,
thanks for your response. Food for thought and a challenge to make my understanding and thoughts more clear.
: My question was: how can religion by itself do this? Suppose that a Bahai country interprets the Bahai writings to say that an arsonist should be burned. So this country
Hi, Janine,
At 06:22 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote:
From where I am sitting, here in Europe, I cannot see that there are even
different groups of Bahais. For me, where I am sitting, every Bahai has their
own take on the Bahai religion, and although some will support some thoughts
some people have
Can you give me examples?
I must say that I am allergic to putting labels on people. I hate having put a label on myself, and so think that others would not like that either. I think that there is far more to people than what we may see. And in the west we are so fond of classifying that we
Janine,
At 06:49 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote:
Can you give me examples?
I would rather not get that specific.
Regards, Mark A. Foster http://markfoster.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok. That is a pity though, cause I do not know what you mean. You could write it to me privately.
janine "Mark A. Foster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Janine,At 06:49 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote:Can you give me examples?I would rather not get that specific. Regards, Mark A. Foster
In a message dated 1/24/2005 7:18:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Only the
Bahai faithis steeped in the practice of
consultation.
Dear Janine,
The Baha'i concept of consultation is derived from Islam.
warmest, Susan
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