Hi, Sandra,
At 05:43 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote:
Some more hyperbole for you...
Pygmies being eaten by rebels in Congo's ongoing war, UN reveals
The exaggeration I had in mind was not the cannibalism itself. It was the use of what
would, from a logical standpoint, be referred to as hasty
Richard,
At 11:18 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote:
Why is an apparently factual statement made by Abdu'l-Baha an hyperbolic statement
in your view?
After the initial phase in the American invasion of Iraq, there were reports in the
Western media that almost everything as taken from the Baghdad Art
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger" This could be a "hyperbole" for people who eat meat.
sorry for the joke ;)
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"Mark A. Foster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even more so for vegetarians. ;-) I agree ;), I remember that the beloved Master sometimes jokes about cows with finest humor sense. Does anyone remember one?
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Dear Mark,
Well Merriam-Webster (you know her, I'm sure... one of my
dearest friends!) says:
hyperbole: extravagant exaggeration (as mile-high ice-cream
cones)
So my conclusion is that the hyperbole would be in the WHAT
[cannibalism] not the WHO [Africans].
In the quotes from SAQ,
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Hasan wrote: This could be a hyperbole for people who eat
meat.
You wrote: Even more so for vegetarians. ;-)
Hi Mark,
Wouldn't that be satire -coming from a vegetarian?
Merriam says:
satire:
1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to
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Dear Khazeh,
I wonder if you might talk to us a bit about the terminologies used in SDC
and some of its connotations. I'm thinking of the passages which Abdu'l-Baha
translates as savages, brute, etc.?
warmest, Susan
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Richard,
I'd like to weigh in on this one. Recently some solid anthropological, historical,
folklore, and African Studies work has cast doubt on whether cannibalism was really
practiced among any groups of human persons on the planet . . . barring the extreme
sado-masochistic behaviors
Why would I look at Abu'l-Baha's statement regarding cannibalism amongst
the
men of the Sudan as hyperbole? Why would a statement of fact be
hyperbole
in your view?
Dear Richard,
Actually, I've never heard of cannibalism being a problem in the Sudan,
but since the word means
Thank you Susan,
I would imagine that by the time Abdu'l-Baha made those comments that the
Western missionaries, with the help of the colonial armies, had well-nigh
wiped out all discoverable cannibalism under their jurisdictions along with
all of the evidence of that odious practice that could
In a message dated 8/20/2004 9:00:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can you give me a source for the Universal House of Justice comment on "hyperbole" ?
"we must accept that they are realities that cannot be defined in a rigourous manner, as one would attempt to define the
Thank you Susan,
There can never be a contradiction between what Abdu'l-Baha has said and
Shoghi Effendi's interpretation. If the statement of Abdu'l-Baha simply
means that black savages of Africa practice cannibalism; and the statement
is true, from whatever point of view it is taken, how is it
Hi, Sandra,
At 03:06 AM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
So my conclusion is that the hyperbole would be in the WHAT [cannibalism] not the
WHO [Africans].
What I suggested is that the hyperbole was the sweeping generalization made about the
Sudanese.
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Sandra,
At 04:53 AM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
Wouldn't that be satire -coming from a vegetarian?
I agree it is also satire. However, I think it is also hyperbolic. The idea of not
eating meat is exaggerated by pointing to the idea of sacred cows.
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Richard,
At 04:28 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
Why would I apply such a standard [of hyperbole] to what has been said by
Abdu'l-Baha?
That is a very broad question. Which statements by `Abdu'l-Baha?
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There is a good discussion of hyperbole, including the excerpt from the letter Susan
posted, in this article by
Seena Fazel:
http://bahai-library.com/articles/exclusivist.html
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Richard,
At 08:45 PM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
There can never be a contradiction between what Abdu'l-Baha has said and Shoghi
Effendi's interpretation.
Not officially.
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