Re: Letters of the Living

2004-04-05 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, David Friedman wrote: about their tablets? It's a pity the Bab didn't address them by name! David Security reasons, dear David, security reasons. Babis could very easily be killed when/if identified by name. Also, perhaps the Bab addressed more than one

Re: Sacred Mythology and Historical Fact

2004-04-06 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Christian E. Gruber wrote: Something can be both sacred mythology and factually true. Myth may - Reminds me of this: All the stories in the Bible are true and some of them actually happened Loving regards, Iskandar

Re: How to pick a prophet? Re: Arson

2005-01-25 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I'm saying that when a 53-year old male marries a 20-30 year old female, he has married a young woman, and when he marries a female who is barely 18 he then has married a teenager. When a 53-year old male marries a female who has just barely tuned 9 lunar years, it is not accurate to say that he

Re: Prophets aren't fortunetellers

2005-02-01 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
No, I never said God planned or preplanned our marriages. I'm saying He knows whom we will marry before we have married. Yes, we have free will. We will make choices. We will choose either X or Y but we will choose one of them, of our own free will. I'm saying God knows what we will choose before

Re: Islamic Prophecies and the Baha'i Faith - 1 [MM] posted first in 1999 !

2005-02-07 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Iskandar: The fact is that the Bab, Baha'u'llah, and `Abdu'l-Baha and all Baha'is do accept Islam, the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, Christianity, Jesus Christ, Judaism, Moses, etc. as valid and Divinely ordained religions and Meesengers/Prophets

Re: Islamic Prophecies and the Baha'i Faith - 1 [MM] posted first in 1999 !

2005-02-07 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Go in peace, Gilberto, go in peace. There is not much use in further discussion(s) with you. Go in peace. May God be with you Regards, Iskandar On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:16:03 -0500 (EST), Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 7

Re: Islamic Prophecies and the Baha'i Faith

2005-02-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
End of discussion. [Shakir 109:2] I do not serve that which you serve, [Yusufali 109:2] I worship not that which ye worship, [Pickthal 109:2] I worship not that which ye worship; [Shakir 109:3] Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: [Yusufali 109:3] Nor will ye worship that which I worship. [Pickthal

The Baha'i Faith and the World's Religions (fwd)

2005-02-09 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
For bibliophiles, FYI... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:37:52 + From: Moojan Momen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Baha'i Faith and the World's Religions Announcing the publication of: The Baha'i Faith and the World's Religions Papers presented at the Irfan

RE: puzzled by Jim

2005-05-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I haven't been following this thread very closley but the following just struck me. Perhaps you made a typographical error or something? I knw that Susan and Khazeh responded to you quite cogently. As you know, the whole theme of the BayAn, the Aqdas, and just about all of our Sacred Writings is

RE: Rights and Responsibilities

2005-07-16 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Who is the publisher? Where is it printed? Regards, Iskandar On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Susan Maneck wrote: Dear Mike, That is a link to supposedly *all* the published letters from the House. But without seeing the compuilation I'm looking for I have no idea which ones are included or not.

Re: Baha'is in Nazi Germany

2005-08-23 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Gilberto: I understand your concerns and worries. As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't presume to know how/if God punishes people but I do know that He hasn't given me any authority to punish anyone. I'm also confident that the Universal House of Justice is charged with promoting peace

Re: next Prophet=+1,000 solar or lunar years?

2005-08-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Bear in mind that Persians use a *solar* Muslim calendar. So, there will be no discrepancy. Right now, it's year 1384 A.H. (solar) Warmest regards, Iskandar The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College

Re: Body Position, Qiblih and Baha'i Burial

2005-08-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Steve: The body of the deceased is laid to rest in a supine position, with the soles of the feet of the deceased soul facing the qiblih. This means that, were the deceased to stand up, s/he would face the qiblih. Warmest regards, Iskandar The information contained in this e-mail

Re: 2000 Years of suffering (Was Baha'is in Nazi Germany)

2005-08-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
You don't understand. The Babis were not born into Babi families. They were born into Shi`ah Muslim families for generations. They expected, according to their own Shi`ah hadith traditions, that the Promised One would cause rivers of blood to flow. The Shi`ah still have very militant expectations.

Re: 2000 Years of suffering (Was Baha'is in Nazi Germany)

2005-08-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
First of all, that website is an unscholarly polemical attack on the Babi and Baha'i religions; it's full of misrepresentations, distortions, mistranslations, false claims and outright errors. If you read Arabic, you can see and read the Arabic Bayan for yourself on the web. For instance, here is

Re: 2000 Years of suffering (Was Baha'is in Nazi Germany)

2005-08-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
It seems that you are arguing and contending with facts. I'm not sure if there is much point then in continuing the dialog. But, anyhow, you quoted two excerpts from that geocities.com anti-Babi and anti-Baha'i website and the excerpts pointed to specific teachings purportedly in the Arabic Bayan,

Re: 2000 Years of suffering

2005-08-29 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
responses and your attitude make me wonder what you say to people when you defend Islam. Peace Gilberto On 8/29/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is talking about *world* problems? We are talking about what happened, by *Muslim* faculty and principal, at a school

Re: 2000 Years of suffering

2005-08-29 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
: On 8/29/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's important to make that point because you cannot portray the Quran as the one and only Holy Book which has nice stuff in it solely. I think we should be careful here. If the Bahai faith teaches that the Quran is the word of God

Re: 2000 Years of suffering

2005-08-29 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
No, you are distorting my words, and misrepresenting the message of Baha'u'llah. Everyone on this list knows that. Iskandar On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 8/29/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just keep on distorting my words. Go ahead. I know your

Devastating stampede

2005-08-31 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I just heard the awful saddening news of a stampede in Iraq today in which some 700 (mostly women children) Shi`ite Muslim pilgrims died in a stampede. I'd like for us to say prayers for the souls of the deceased, and for their loved ones survivors, and for peace and tranquillity to prevail,

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-08-31 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Say what?! Are you making a sick joke or what? Shoghi Effendi is talking about the actions of the Shi`ah **ecclesiastical order** and the wave of secularization in Persia then. Children are not punished for the bad deeds of their parents. Iskandar On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Max Jasper wrote: It

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-09-01 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Yes, of course, in my understanding of the Baha'i Sacred Writings. And in the understanding of Sekhmet, Scott, and Hasan as well. Since you can read/understand Persian, dear Max, please check a passage from `Abdu'l-Baha on pages 299-300 of amr va khalq Volume 1

RE: Devastating stampede

2005-09-01 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
As devastating and horrifyingly shocking the event of Wednesday was, one should pause to remember that man-made disasters have been brought upon the people of Iraq and the Arabian peninsula for over 200 years as a result of sectarian violence: in 1802 the Wahhabis attacked and conquered Mecca and

Re: Devastating stampede

2005-09-02 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
, tolerant and peace-loving majority. I wasn't trying to undo any positive vibe at all. Iskandar On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 9/1/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Religious strife sectarian violence is indeed a devouring flame. Iskandar

Re: Devastating stampede

2005-09-02 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Manifestation of God, the Inaugurator of a new Dispensation (religion). Iskandar On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 9/2/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to emphasize that religious animosity and warfare and sectarian hatred and violence are really really

Re: Devastating stampede

2005-09-02 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
discussion. Otherwise we welcome your comments and suggestions. Iskandar On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 9/2/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I understand now what your question is. More a suggestion than a question. Peace Gilberto

Re: Devastating stampede

2005-09-02 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Every time there was a transition in leadership (Bab, Bahaullah, Abdul-Baha, Shoghi Effendi, UHJ) there was a split between those who took one fork and those who went some other way. That's all I'm saying. Peace Gilberto

Actions have consequences

2005-09-03 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
If I'm not mistaken, I guess what Max is trying to say is that actions have consequences. When one rejects and opposes the counsel and command of the Divine Physician, there are consequences. Iskandar The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent

Re: Actions have consequences

2005-09-03 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
particularly presumptuous to claim to be able to discern God's will for particular situations in that way. Peace Gilberto On 9/3/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm not mistaken, I guess what Max is trying to say is that actions have consequences. When one rejects

RE: Self-Definition

2005-09-04 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
They say with their tongues what is not in their hearts. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above.

Re: Challenging Writing from Abdu'l-Baha

2005-10-07 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/ab/SAB/sab-150.html http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/ab/SWA1/swa1-188.html http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/ab/SWA1/swa1-189.html Warmest regards, Iskandar On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Barmak Kusha wrote: Friends and colleagues, Last night, as I studied and

Re: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-17 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Is it appropriate and OK for a listmember to call Khazeh and his honest and sincere remarks as dishonest and INCREDIBLY dishonest? Iskandar On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 15, 2005 5:24

Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-17 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
That's an insulting commento to Khazeh. On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/16/05, Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/16/05, Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dearest Gilberto i love Islam with all my heart and my soul and mind. Then why aren't

Re: Contemporary Islamic Fatva regarding Baha'is

2005-10-20 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
For an English translation, go to: http://www.wilayah.ir/en/library/ajwibah/taharah.php#3-13 and scroll down to Q 335 and Question 336, 337, and Q 338 This verdict is from Iran's Supreme Religious/Spiritual and political leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Jurist Regards, Iskandar On

Re: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-20 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I don't have any particularly compelling reason to belive that the hadith that the authoritative Bukhari cites is fake but I'd love to be see compelling evidence that the Prophet Muhammad never said such a thing. Regards, Iskandar On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/19/05,

Re: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-20 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
have said something like that? Peace Gilberto On 10/20/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any particularly compelling reason to belive that the hadith that the authoritative Bukhari cites is fake but I'd love to be see compelling evidence that the Prophet

Re: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-20 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
it. I think the Bukhari hadith that Hajir shared is straightforward and clear. I'd take it at its face value. I wouldn't want to neccessarily interpret it otherwise. Iskandar On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/20/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I certainly wish

Re: believing v. understanding Re: Fwd: Interesting thread

2005-10-23 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Well, I'm not so sure that there is a Muslim paradigm as such: there is a Wahhabi Sunni paradigm, there is a Si`ah paradigm, there is a Sufi/mystical pradigm, a Hanbali Sunni paradigm, a Shafi`i paradigm, etc., etc. For example, my understanding is that for a very simple and straightforward thing

Women's rights blasphemy _Please send this article to your friends

2005-10-24 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4368704.stm -- Forwarded message -- Is fighting for the equality of women a blasphemy??? Sunday, 23 October 2005, 08:52 GMT 09:52 UK Jail term for Afghan journalist Ali Mohaqiq Nasab Nasab says he does not

Re: question about pilgrim note

2005-10-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
The terms Central Figures and the Three Central Figures were coined by the beloved Guardian Shoghi Effendi who was an infinitely humble person; he uses this term in his writings to refer to the blessed Bab, Baha'u'llah, and to `Abdu'l-Baha. This has nothing to do with binding nature and

Re: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The outcome of wiping out the males of mature age (old enough to be capable of bearing arms), then enslaving the women and children DID wipe them out ethnically just as completely as if the

Re: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Just produce someone from banu-Qurayzah and end the discussion. If you can't, then just say nothing. Scott is the one who claimed to know

Re: Values should not be time dependent

2005-10-27 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Another totally stupid argument. On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O.K. How about this: The Quran says that the punishment for stealing is to have a hand cut off. Sura 5: The man thief and the woman thief, cut off the hands

Re: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
You don't get the point, do you. Or, you just play dumb. No difference anyhow. One cannot prove a negative. If you want to challenge or disprove Scott's point, all you need to do is to produce just one Jewish person from the banu-Qurayzah tribe. That's all. If you cannot do that, then don't

Re: Values should not be time dependent

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Tim: Gilberto is evading an answer. Typical of him; doesn't surprise me. He can't say yes because it will make him look stupid. And he can't say no because it would prove your argument. So he evades. Loving reagrds, Iskandar On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05,

Re: Values should not be time dependent

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Again, another evasive comment that makes no sense at all. Iskandar On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilberto, On this list most participants would say that something profound changed in 1844. I understand that. But

Re: Past events should not be judged by modern standards

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
And there are still parts of the world where people think and want to live as they did in the 7th century. Perhpas you might want to go live there in Saudi Arabia amongst your Wahhabi brethren. You are making really nonsense and stupid comments, Gilberto. Iskandar On Thu, 27 Oct 2005,

Re: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Gilberto is willing to hypothesize that, perhaps, the bani-Qurayzah Jews got absorbed into other communities (but he doesn't give you any evidence for that, of course) but he doesn't accept the fact that the banu-Qurayzah got indeed wiped off the face of the earth. This is good. Iskandar On

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Well, let's see: someone does a bank robbery somewhere. He is caught and tried and incarcerated. I'd say that's appropriate nowadys, in this day and age. Now, is it appropriate to cut off his hand? Gilberto avoids this question and evades to give an answer. I think he knows that we understand that

Re: Arguers Annonymous

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
They should also be forthright, not evasive, in their answers. Iskandar On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Dean Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Ben. Unfortunately we all live in an argumentative world which is considered natural, normal and good by

Re: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Again, all you need to do to prove Scott wrong is to produce one (only one) Jewish person from banu-Qurayzah. You haven't done that. You can't do that. So, just keep quiet. Iskandar On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilberto:

Re: change in morality Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Another memorable post for the hall of fame of rubbish and non-sensical comments. Iskandar On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did they change? (I don't mean, what was the change?, I mean What was the process by which they

Re: Values should not be time dependent

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Tim, Gilberto will not give you a simple, forthright and honest answer. He just continues to evade and change the subject. And he does that knowingly and deliberately, Iskandar On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 10/27/05, Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Susan, Gilberto is hell bent on misrepresenting you, Khazeh, Scott, and others. He is not going to stop doing that. It's just totally pointless to try to reason with him because he has left his mind and reasoning power somewhere in the 7th century on some desert. Iskandar On Fri, 28 Oct

RE: banu qurayzah: Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Don't worry, Susan. He will always have the last word; just like his Prophet is the last Prophet. Warm regards, Iskandar On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Susan Maneck wrote: Look, we are dropping the thread folks. Gilberto gets to have the last word. So he gets one more post and then we shut the

Re: Speed of Light

2005-11-21 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, you wrote: I would expect a text from God to be true at whatever level it speaks at. I'm not eager to insist that the latest discoveries of quantum physics or relativity are all found in the Quran. But if the Quran does describe natural phenomena I would expect it to be

Re: kalimat

2006-01-11 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Just a quick note: The Universal House of Justice instructed the National Spiritual Assembly of the Netherlands to remove Sen's name from the Baha'i community membership rolls not solely because of his book Church State but because of a pattern of behavior on his part. That *pattern* of behavior

Re: The Universal House of Justice

2006-01-12 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
`Abdu'l-Baha has prayers and perhaps some Tablets in Turkish. Regards, Iskandar On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Don Calkins wrote: What about Turkish? I have heard that he carried on a fair correspondence in Turkish. If so, did he ever quote the Writings in Turkish? Don C The

Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-24 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Gilberto: I appreciate the fact that you recognize that. In the past I've had discussions where Bahais were trying to argue that there are these huge radical splits and disagreements and that Muslims were hopelessly divided because of

Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-24 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
and religions is come. Regards, Iskandar On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 1/24/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Gilberto: I appreciate the fact that you recognize that. In the past I've had discussions

Re: Question: Abdul-Baha's 1911 European meetings

2006-01-24 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I read somewhere that when He was in Paris, Henri Bergson came to visit Him and asked Him two questions and left satisfied. Bergson asked Him what the aim of the Baha'i Faith was and He answered oneness of mankind; he then asked Him how He thought humanity would come to that goal and He is

Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-25 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Actually, it's you, Gilberto, who is being selective. Just see what the consensus of opinion was on the Wikipaedia links that Firouz provided. Regards, Iskandar On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: I think if you quote selectively you can probably find example of Shias and Sunnis

Re: Judaism 101 was Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-25 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
This is an erroneus, highly inflammatory, inaccurate and insane comment. You should apologize, Gilberto. This has been discussed so many times before. Disgusted Iskandar On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Muslim. I would have more right to dismiss your views as the opinions

Re: Judaism 101 was Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-25 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
to the United States and Canada in 1912 rev. ed. (Wilmette: Bah' Publishing Trust, 1982), p. 414) [1] http://bahai-library.com/?file=compilation_holocaust_greater_plan On 1/25/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an erroneus, highly inflammatory, inaccurate and insane

Re: kalimat- accepting apparent disagreements over interpretation of the writings

2006-01-25 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
This did not come through; so, I'm re-sending it again... On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Gilberto: Sure. As a Bahai it makes sense to you to view Islam uncharitably and construe it in a rigid unflattering way. While Muslims who view it as a religion which should actually be

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

2006-01-29 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
My understanding is that this badAA concept/doctrine is a Shi`ii thing. I don't know if Sunni Muslims have a particular emphasis on it. For Shi`ah Muslims badAA is when God chnages His mind. The successor the the Shi`ah 6th Imam (Imam J`afar the Truthful) was supposed to be his son Ismael

Re: Re: Re: Why Bahá'u'lláh's photograph is on wikipe dia

2006-01-31 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Hasan: My understanding is that two shots were taken in one sitting but, I've been told, Baha'u'llah liked only one of them, the one that's on display inside the International Archives building. I gather the original negative for the Wikipaedia photo (i.e., the picture He did not like) is

Re: Re: Re: Why Bahá'u'lláh's photograph is on wikip edia

2006-02-01 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
My understanding is that the original negative of the photo has recently come into the possession of the Universal House of Justice. I mean the photo in Wikipaedia's site, from Miller's book. Good wishes, Iskandar On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, David Friedman wrote: It's authentic, it is just not ours.

Re: Some help

2006-02-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
What is/was framed in a disparaging way? On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 2/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But my Muslim father-in-law gave consent to my marriage partly because in his eyes I was still a Christian since Baha'i didn't count. It need not

Re: Some help

2006-02-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: I haven't heard any scholars I would really respect give an opinion on the issue but I actually wouldn't have a problem with thinking of say... Seventh Day Adventists or Mormons as Ahl al-Kitab even though they arguably accept some kinds of

Re: Some help

2006-02-09 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Your interest in promoting tolerance is very gratefully appreciated, dear Gilberto. I wonder if you can enumerate some prominent, leading Muslim scholars, clerics, or Islamic countries/governments who have actually publicly accepted Baha'is as people of the Book. Regards, Iskandar On Thu, 9

Oxymoron sign

2006-02-25 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_13370.shtml when you scroll down the page to the last picture, you see the picture of a person holding a placard sign which reads: Behead those who say Islam is violent. An oxymoronic statement. Regards, Iskandar The information contained

Re: Imam Mahdi's Shrine Destroyed - Muslim Unity????

2006-02-26 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Yes, actually, the news coming from BBC, NPR and some other Western media on Sunday Feb 26th 2006 is that the event of last Wednesday 2/22nd/2006 and its aftermath may have actually galvanized the Iraqis to become even more united. The main Sunni political group withdrew from the government on

RE: RE: Muhammad Baha'i

2006-03-04 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I'm not sure if Kalim's descendants stayed in the Faith; Mirza Majdu'din was violently opposed to `Abdu'l-Baha and the Guardian. Both Fuad and Munir Baha'i were descendants of another of Baha'u'llah's brothers. The name escapes me now. Good wishes, Iskandar On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, dcbowie wrote:

Re: Video of Fast Tablet Chanted by Baha'i Youth of Shiraz

2006-03-11 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
How can I download it? When I click on the link, Windows Media Player pops open and starts the beautiful chant. But I don't know how to download and save it. With gratitude, Iskandar On Sat, 11 Mar 2006, Larry Marquardt wrote: Dear Friends, Below is copied a note in regards to this video.

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-06 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Janine, In a sense he is right that the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Islam but then in that sense the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Judaism, Christianity, etc., as we believe that the foundation of all religions is one. The essential and fundamental tenets of all faiths are the

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/5/06, Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Janine, He feels that the Bahai faith is just a reiteration of Islam, nothing new. I don't like absolute claims and so I probably wouldn't say that there is *nothing* new. But the

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: cannot practice bigamy, have a clear cut prohibition against slavery, Except the Bab and Bahaullah both owned slaves. -G The Bab and Baha'u'llah had slaves because They bought them under Islamic Dispensation shari`ah law before the onset

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
in the prophet's time there were certain standards and principles to encourage good treatment and to encourage the emancipation of slaves. -Gilberto On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: cannot practice bigamy, have a clear cut

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Mon, 8 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Baha'u'llah forbids religious warfare, Muhammad did not forbid this. Gilberto: The Bahai writings allow for something called

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-09 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things didn't magically change in 1844, nor in 610, nor in year 30. Think continuum. I do think in terms of continuum. That's why I don't think that a new Manifestation who will change

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-09 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
sectarian warfare. They are still causing sectarian warfare, and killing, even now. In Iraq, for instance. Iskandar On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 8 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-09 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/9/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's primarily your interpretation. Many many scholars, jurists, and commentatators have had and still have very different interpretations of jihAd. Here is a mainstram traditional

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-09 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/9/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iskandar: Things didn't magically change in 1844, nor in 610, nor in year 30

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-09 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Gilberto: Thank you, I appreciate it. Of course, people like Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Nawawi, al-Ghazzali, Imam Malik etc. who are respected by Sunni Muslims the world over will be much more prominent and mainstream. While this or that random

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-10 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/9/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: Gilberto: Thank you, I appreciate it. Of course, people like Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Nawawi, al-Ghazzali, Imam Malik etc. who

Word of God, illimitable; term ajal; Messengers; ummah people; sunnah (way) of God, etc.

2006-05-10 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
018.109 YUSUFALI: Say: If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid. PICKTHAL: Say: Though the sea became ink for the Words of my Lord, verily the sea

RE: question about Islam

2006-05-13 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iskandar Hai, M.D. Sent: 06 May 2006 21:53 To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: question about Islam Dear Janine, In a sense he is right that the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Islam

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-13 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
I don't think we are getting anywhere. So, I will try to wind down. Gilberto keeps distorting things, as usual. Anyway, .. On Thu, 11 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/10/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/9/06, Iskandar

Re: Question about Islam: ohter opinions please?

2006-05-13 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Janine, The religious Shari`ah court in Beba in Egypt issued an edict in the 1920's to the effect that the Baha'i Faith was an independent religion, not a sect of Islam; that the Baha'i Faith was different from Islam as Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all different from each

RE: Question about Islam: ohter opinions please?

2006-05-13 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iskandar Hai, M.D. Sent: 13 May 2006 16:40 To: Baha'i

Re: question about Islam

2006-05-13 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
radio and TV networks across the globe for all to raed and see. For the record, I was not raised to hate anyone, nor to hate Sunnis; and your ad hominem attacks are revolting and disgusting. Iskandar On Sat, 13 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 5/13/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: delivering wives in Bible texts

2006-07-07 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Richard A mushrik is a person who joins partners with God; it can be translated as polytheist. Warm regards, Iskandar On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Richard H. Gravelly wrote: Am I correct in surmising that mushrik would be translated plasphemous in English? Richard.

Re: delivering wives in Bible texts

2006-07-07 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
The discussion about God, the nature of God, etc. in Baha'i theology and metaphysics is quite extensive and profound but not weird. Iskandar On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: And it seems very very weird to me to consider someone a mushrik for saying that the infallibility of the

Re: delivering wives in Bible texts

2006-07-08 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Please permit me not to engage in this discussion with you. The issues related to to the human nature of the Prophets of God, their station, their uniqueness and/or their differences from each other, their relationship with the Divine, etc., etc. are truly ineffable concepts and issues and they

Re: Fwd: delivering wives in Bible texts

2006-07-13 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote: On 7/13/06, Moghaddam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will agree that words should not become barriers to truth. What's the underlying truth? -G --- Ah! The eternal question. Reminds you of the

Re: Unity and Truth

2006-07-19 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
This is how a Manifestation of God, the Prophet Abraham, gradually discloses His mission: 006.076 YUSUFALI: When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: This is my Lord. But when it set, He said: I love not those that set. PICKTHAL: When the night grew dark upon him he beheld a

Re: Fwd: delivering wives in Bible texts

2006-07-23 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
It's Persian translation is online on the author's website but I don't believe you can find either its German original or its English translation electronically or online. Its Persian translation is a 32 MegaByte downloadable .PDF file. http://www.udoschaefer.com/books_div1.php#crooked Warm

Re: You never really know: transsexual or gay?

2006-10-30 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
If one party to a marriage has gender assignment surgery some time later, after the marriage, I'd think that the other party might in all likelihood want to get a divorce. I don't think that the other party will want to stay in that marriage. Unless there was sort of secret collusion or agreement

Re: Kitab-I-Aqdas and other questions

2007-12-31 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Ron: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Ursus Maximus wrote: 3. Not only does the Aqdas not make the point about equality of the sexes, but also instead Women are specifically singled out as being treated inferior to men in more than one instance. Women are given less inheritance, (and if that's of

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