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Are we saying something like
A trusted FBI official who had a son that could get close to these boys,
helped programme them to massacre their mates so that gun control to disarm
the US population could be implemented before the outbreak of a planned
civil emergency
Or
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Trenchcoat Video made by an FBI Agent's Son
COLUMBINE VIDEO MADE in 97 w/FBI's Son !!
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Columbine 'Trenchcoat Murder' Video Produced In 1997 with FBI lead
investigator's son !
The following is reprinted from
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According to a statement on MS-NBC tonight,
the parents of "Trenchcoat Mafia" mastermind Eric Harris --the "military
brat"--
have thus far REFUSED TO COOPERATE with police investigators,
who STILL have not been able to question Mr and Mrs Harris ...
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a little tired of the "blame the parents" bit. My own kids were not
brought up with any notions of racial bias and indeed never had any until
they had a very bad experience in junior highschool, in a school where
things
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On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are also people on this list who use different names, and from
their terminology, and certain key words often leave clues as to who
they are.Hot Mail, and stuff like that - coming to this list members
from
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On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Liz Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
june, i believe bundy did admit at the end to some of the murders--to buy
time, he took the law on a tour and they found some bodies-this was in an
attempt to put off his execution
Not that I read...the only thing
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In a message dated 4/24/99 10:20:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ted Bundy never had a list, and to the day of his execution never admitted
he did the murders.
June
I was under the impression that he did confess right before he was executed
and
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Bill Curtis did a bit on Bundy's life and it showed he confessed and became a
born again Christian.
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In a message dated 04/24/1999 11:53:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I dunno. I've personally known a number of otherwise intelligent
20-nothings
from good families who, besides playing DD and being into the usual gross
gore flicks, have coldbloodedly
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Drugs and role playing and blood lust and occult and heavy metal and high IQ
and family rejection and no self-discipline and an antisocial attitude and a
cold heart would be up there on my list.
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ted Bundy murdered two or three girls from Colorado ended up in
Florida, where he had my neice's name on his murder list.
Ted Bundy never had a list, and to the day of his execution never admitted
he did the
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Ted Bundy had my neices billfold, all her ID's and the police contacted
her; she had attended a munitions banquet somewhere, and saw him take it
and saw his face.
She attended Suawnee school, etc, and her father was top secret
military...when I said list, let us say he got info
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In a message dated 04/23/1999 10:23:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(Although parents who were less stressed out by
having to work and run double-time to earn a decent living would help kids a
lot.) It's
hard to recall, but back in the 40s and 50s,
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I'd be interested in finding out how you found out about this list,
and what motivated you to join all us middleaged old farts here... ;-)
June
Thanks for your insight, June :)
I don't recall how I found out about this list.. I certainly don't regret
joining it though;
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::[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd be interested in why, in your opinion, so few people your age are on
this list.
Maybe they think the football games and pot parties they attend are more
important than seeing about what the world is up to? g I don't know.
This list is pretty
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::[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
June is right kiddo-
even at funerals, some people start to laff- its a nervous reaction-
you are obviously a good person and a deep thinker-and the latter means u
are
in the minority(maybe even the former)
have hope and keep being as kind
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In a message dated 99-04-24 21:14:54 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks:) I know about the nervous reaction.. It's probably that, to an
extent, but I know at least a few people who are that... detatched that they
can make fun of things similar to this with no problem.
I
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In a message dated 04/21/1999 1:15:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There's never an excuse for murder, but it might be a good idea if
kids were taught how to treat each other so that everyone was
enjoying the experience.
It comes down to The Golden Rule,
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In school today, I saw my peers laughing about the massacre which
happened in Columbine yesterday. Some were giggling and joking
around, pointing at people who were wearing black,
People deal with horror in different ways, and often the only way they
can cope with it is to
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Ted Bundy murdered two or three girls from Colorado ended up in
Florida, where he had my neice's name on his murder list.
Only my brother-in-law's interference kept her from being a witness; but
she had to move. He, at that time, worked with the space program and
von
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In a message dated 04/23/1999 9:28:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It comes down to The Golden Rule, and its equivalent in other
religions...if kids got a good moral background from their parents,
they'd never even CONSIDER picking on someone as
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so right, june and all
being different is no treat in school
being part indian, and dark, i took my share of crappola.(this was way back
in the so-called dark ages of the 50s)
was made to feel ashamed at times-and had fantasies-not of killing, but of
being big enough to knock
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June is right kiddo-
even at funerals, some people start to laff- its a nervous reaction-
you are obviously a good person and a deep thinker-and the latter means u are
in the minority(maybe even the former)
have hope and keep being as kind as u are-and pass it along when u can!
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Why would Dylan Klebold, who is Jewish, and whose mother lived just a
mile or two from my homein a very nice upper class area - the
daughter of the Yassenoff Foundation's founder...why would Dylan
celebrate Adolph Hitler's birthday.
The Yassenoff family had other ties, but
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On 23 Apr 99, , Ynr wrote:
I'd be interested in finding out how you found out about this list,
and what motivated you to join all us middleaged old farts here... ;-)
There are something like 400+ members on this list, and only a handful post. Less
than a dozen post
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Where did these "Mafiosi" get their programming for violent, antisocial
behavior?
"Leader Eric Harris wore German insignia, spoke German, loved violent
video games -- and, after graduating, intended to join the military.
"``He was into combat more than anyone
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Colo. Gunman May Have Had Web Page
By CHRIS ALLBRITTON
.c The Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) -- The FBI intends to serve search warrants on America Online
to gather information on Web sites and member profiles relating to the
shooting at Columbine High School.
One of the
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Gee, that's funny...I can't find any webpage with that
name, how odd? Was it removed?
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There have always been two. One is here, the other is coming.
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Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at
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Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Where did these "Mafiosi" get their programming for violent, antisocial
behavior?
"Leader Eric Harris wore German insignia, spoke German, loved violent
video games -- and, after graduating, intended to join the
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Gunmen Had Premonition in Video
LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) -- Months before they massacred a dozen students and a
teacher, two high school students made a video portraying themselves in
trench coats, shooting athletes as they walk down their school hallway.
The video was made for a
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In a message dated 99-04-21 00:21:36 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe these kids are following his example; from their written messages,
it would appear so...Clinton is following in the steps of the Nazi party.
My first thought on hearing "black trenchcoats" and guns was
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Colorado Suspects Called Outcasts
By ROBIN McDOWELL
.c The Associated Press
LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) -- They are called the ``Trench Coat Mafia,'' a group
of about 10 students who wear long black coats, keep to themselves and follow
shock rocker Marilyn Manson.
Despite their
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Authorities and school district officials said they had never heard of the
group. ``We were not aware of the Trench Coat Mafia until today,''
Superintendent Jane Hammond said Tuesday.
A reference to the group in last year's Columbine yearbook reveals nothing
more than general
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Kenn Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I'm seeing indications linking the Colorado shootings to The Basketball
Diaries,
a movie where Leonardo DiCaprio dressed in a black trenchcoat blows people
away.
It's based on a book by Jim Carroll, a writer connected to
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In a message dated 4/20/99 10:23:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm seeing indications linking the Colorado shootings to The Basketball
Diaries,
a movie where Leonardo DiCaprio dressed in a black trenchcoat blows people
away.
It's based on a book by
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In a message dated 4/20/99 11:14:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
sorry, i dont see a' military state" that caused the tradegy in CO-the
military has been cut, and swiped away for years
rather i blame the fact that no one raises our kids anymore
they
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Despite their dark lifestyle, they had not shown an inclination for
violence
before Tuesday, according to some of their fellow students at Columbine
High
School.
On the news yesterday (CNN), a student who was enrolled in a video production
class with one of the shooters
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Furthermore, noting that the day of the shooting was Hitler's birthday, the
MS-NBC crew stated that, according to those who knew the perps, they were
admirers of Hitler and Third Reich imagery and specifically targeted
non-Aryans (black and latino high school students) for
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In a message dated 04/21/1999 1:15:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So human kindness could prevent a lot of trouble; blaming the victims -
well, yes in their ignorance and youth, they probably didnot realize wht
they were doing. But the teachers and
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Responsibility by definition means answerable or accountable
for. And what is a person responsible for? Everything he
thinks, says or does. Why? Because no matter what or whom
one can blame for the circumstances of his life, he is still
stuck with the consequences of everything
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In a message dated 04/21/1999 1:40:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Colleen Jones wrote:
A lot of evil is coming out of Colorado; from Ted Bundy, the guy that
shot Reagan, these kids, the little Jon Benet Ramsey.the horrible
movie that got the
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In school today, I saw my peers laughing about the massacre which happened in
Columbine yesterday. Some were giggling and joking around, pointing at people
who were wearing black, saying that they were members of the Trenchcoat
Mafia. The people who were wearing black said
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The BBC reports that the Evil Internet had given these horrific
children their neo-nazi and terrorist ideas - they had aol web sites
with hate and pipe bombs on them.
Even Combat 18 and other nazi groups around the world can operate
in complete safety and security in the
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In school today, I saw my peers laughing about the massacre which happened in
Columbine yesterday.
That shows how desensitized they have become courtesy of the best
brainwasher/programmer of all. T.V.
Some were giggling and joking around, pointing at people
who were
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In a message dated 4/21/99 1:27:49 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
many computer games are shoot'em up the bad guy, also. for a society as
saturated in violence as ours is, it is suprizing that there has not been
a whole lot more violence up to now.
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I'm seeing indications linking the Colorado shootings to The Basketball Diaries,
a movie where Leonardo DiCaprio dressed in a black trenchcoat blows people away.
It's based on a book by Jim Carroll, a writer connected to the
Kerouac/Ginsberg/Burroughs nexus of beat poets. You
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sorry, i dont see a' military state" that caused the tradegy in CO-the
military has been cut, and swiped away for years
rather i blame the fact that no one raises our kids anymore
they raise themselves
and they are not doing too well
liz
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Kenn Thomas wrote:
You can bet that the cause of this violence will be tracked
to everywhere but the actual source.
You certainly missed it ... individual responsibility coupled
with piss-poor parenting.
Regard$,
--MJ
Responsibility by definition means answerable or
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I know CTRL readers won't go for this simplistic ballyhoo. Here's a good
place to start looking for real answers about the school shootings:
http://www2.flatlandbooks.com/flatland/Gatto.html
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You certainly missed it ...
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Also the movie Heathers.sweet little Wynona Ryder, and this
Christian Slater; a gun in a cafeteria, to a murder of a popular young
student, to bombs awaywhen I saw this movie some years back I was
horrified.
And please be assured, these movie stars and the script
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You certainly missed it ... individual responsibility coupled with
piss-poor parenting.
Assuming of course that they weren't mind controlled zombies.
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Well, lets just hear it for all those Souther Baptist God Shouters, who
pushed a few other kids over the brink.
So the kids were scum, and they got their revenge. Pierced ears and
pierced eyerows on kids, is a form of self mutiliation tht is really not
acceptable; it fact, it
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Kids need a sense of belonging to something or someone; well, someone
got their hooks into the kids the wore the Black Trenchcoats.they
belonged, and they were the avengers in bloodeven though they were
not of royal descent.
They better get behind this and find the
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Blame the victims and coddle the criminals.
The only thing that is going to stop this nonsense is public executions
after conviction.
At 12:42 AM 4/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
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Well, lets just hear it for all those Souther Baptist God Shouters, who
pushed a few
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Let me tell you something, Mr. Moxley; working in a Court, there was one
attorney who always bothered me - and I always said about him ' Be Nice
to the Nuts..
Well a few years ago, this lawyer ended up working in a Casino in Las
Vegas, and one night came in with a sub
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On 4/21/99 at 0021
Colleen Jones wrote:
A lot of evil is coming out of Colorado; from Ted Bundy, the guy that
shot Reagan, these kids, the little Jon Benet Ramsey.the horrible
movie that got the Oscar, about the butchers which was said to be a
comedy that got an academy
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
And oh this police official - not one word that he had been approached
about the one kid being possibly a bit psycho - but then who woud ever
notice someone dressed in black every dayafter all we are getting
accusomed to the D Platoons and
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