On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Giacomo Mulas
giacomo.mula...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Steve Langasek wrote:
The apparmor policies in Debian apply a principle of minimal harm,
confining
only those services for which someone has taken the time to verify the
correct profile.
Hi,
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo:
a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition.
Sorry, but _my_ definition of source code is whatever you customarily
edit when you want to change something.
_Nobody_ in their right mind edits minified Javascript.
IMHO, in an ideal world we would
On amd64 system:
libc6-i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 and link to
/lib32/ld-2.18.so
libc6:i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.18.so
when these 2 packages installed at the same time
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 is linked to
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 23:20 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo dijo [Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 01:27:02AM +0100]:
To both things above, I don't think that this is different to my example of
'configure' script without corresponding .ac/.in; and I don't think that
anybody
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:48:47 +0100
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo manuel.montez...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Moving from debian-devel-games to debian-devel@ for opinions about if
this lintian warning is OK to override or not, or in general about
what to do with lintian warning about minified JS.
2014-04-25 5:20 GMT+01:00 Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org:
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo dijo [Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 01:27:02AM +0100]:
To both things above, I don't think that this is different to my example of
'configure' script without corresponding .ac/.in; and I don't think that
anybody
is
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:20:00 -0500
Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote:
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo dijo [Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 01:27:02AM
+0100]:
To both things above, I don't think that this is different to my
example of 'configure' script without corresponding .ac/.in; and I
don't think
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 01:16:04 +0100
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo manuel.montez...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think that we should go and do the tedious work of repack
thousands of packages because of this, with no real benefit in terms
of freedom (or any other) for our users -- provided that we
2014-04-25 8:49 GMT+01:00 Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de:
Hi,
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo:
a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition.
Sorry, but _my_ definition of source code is whatever you customarily
edit when you want to change something.
_Nobody_ in their right
Yunqiang Su wrote:
On amd64 system:
libc6-i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 and link to
/lib32/ld-2.18.so
libc6:i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.18.so
when these 2 packages installed at the same time
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 is
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 10:47:20 +0100
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo manuel.montez...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-04-25 8:49 GMT+01:00 Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de:
Hi,
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo:
a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition.
Sorry, but _my_ definition of
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote:
Yunqiang Su wrote:
On amd64 system:
libc6-i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 and link to
/lib32/ld-2.18.so
libc6:i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.18.so
when
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 09:41:37AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
The package is wrong if lintian reports the error. Fix the package.
Not always, the way lintian checks is wrong. I'm not buying into is
minimised source or not, but no matter which way you sit on that issue,
the lintian checks for
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 06:49:49PM +0800, Yunqiang Su wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote:
Yunqiang Su wrote:
On amd64 system:
libc6-i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 and link
to
/lib32/ld-2.18.so
libc6:i386 make
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:58:57 +1000
Craig Small csm...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 09:41:37AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
The package is wrong if lintian reports the error. Fix the package.
Not always, the way lintian checks is wrong. I'm not buying into is
minimised source or
On 25/04/14 02:16, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
I don't think that we should go and do the tedious work of repack
thousands of
packages because of this, with no real benefit in terms of freedom (or
any
other) for our users -- provided that we depend and link to the canonical
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 06:49:49PM +0800, Yunqiang Su wrote:
On amd64 system:
libc6-i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 and link
to
/lib32/ld-2.18.so
libc6:i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.18.so
when these 2 packages
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 01:16:04 +0100
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo manuel.montez...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think that we should go and do the tedious work of repack
thousands of packages because of this, with no real benefit in terms
of freedom
On 04/25/2014 03:48 AM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition.
I don't agree with this.
On 04/25/2014 03:48 AM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
It's interpreted in different implementations of an ISO-approved
interpreted language,
I agree with you. An obfuscated source isn't source and should'nt be in
source packages. But in binary packages, yes. Also, as say the GNU
LibreJS standard for publish free JavaScript code, If there are a
comment which is an URL to the source and the corresponding source is
free, the obfuscated
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:47:20AM +0100, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
Thus, the file itself being source code,
You are the only one who uses a definition of source code that includes
generated files. This is confusing; please don't do that.
So I believe that the lintian error
Why not just take the Free Software Definition[0] instead lose a lot of
time in specific guidelines.
I think use the Free System Distribution Guidelines published by the
FSF[1] is the best way. Use the FSDG instead of the DFSG will :
-Be more efficient instead of lose a lot of time in the DFSG.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 06:49:49PM +0800, Yunqiang Su wrote:
On amd64 system:
libc6-i386 make /lib/ld-linux.so.2 link to /lib32/ld-linux.so.2 and
link to
/lib32/ld-2.18.so
libc6:i386 make
Quoting Solal (2014-04-25 15:14:49)
Why not just take the Free Software Definition[0] instead lose a lot
of time in specific guidelines.
I think use the Free System Distribution Guidelines published by the
FSF[1] is the best way. Use the FSDG instead of the DFSG will :
-Be more efficient
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 15:14:49 +0200
Solal solal.rast...@me.com wrote:
Why not just take the Free Software Definition[0] instead lose a lot of
time in specific guidelines.
I think use the Free System Distribution Guidelines published by the
FSF[1] is the best way. Use the FSDG instead of the
At Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:58:35 +0200,
Daniel Pocock wrote:
There is no doubt in my mind that if the rules are not strict then
sooner or later somebody will sneak something bad into some minified
Javascript - maybe it will happen upstream and the DD won't even be
aware of it.
Yes, and that's why
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 16:39 +0800, Yunqiang Su wrote:
[...]
On mips64el system:
libc6-mips32 make /lib/ld.so.1 link to /lib/ld-2.18.so
(yes, quite strange, mips system asks for use /lib as o32
multilib path)
libc6:mipsel make /lib/ld.so.1 link to /lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/ld-2.18.so
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 16:28 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 16:39 +0800, Yunqiang Su wrote:
[...]
On mips64el system:
libc6-mips32 make /lib/ld.so.1 link to /lib/ld-2.18.so
(yes, quite strange, mips system asks for use /lib as o32
multilib path)
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:47:41 +0200
Jeroen Dekkers jer...@dekkers.ch wrote:
At Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:58:35 +0200,
Daniel Pocock wrote:
There is no doubt in my mind that if the rules are not strict then
sooner or later somebody will sneak something bad into some minified
Javascript - maybe it
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On 25/04/14 17:40, Neil Williams wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:47:41 +0200 Jeroen Dekkers
jer...@dekkers.ch wrote:
At Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:58:35 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
There is no doubt in my mind that if the rules are not strict
then
With all the talk about removing jquery from source packages, one thing
that does arise is the question of how to support different jquery versions.
This is not just a JavaScript issue though. Maybe we can have
libjs-jquery-1.7
libjs-jquery-1.10
and friends all installed concurrently.
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which brings the number of attendants up to 9. This is a short
summary of what
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+++ Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo [2014-04-25 09:42 +0100]:
... a recent/ongoing thread, about using dh-autoreconf or something
similar ...
Nobody in the thread tried to apply the same logic with configure
script compared to minified .js. The case of configure script is even
worse, in my
❦ 25 avril 2014 17:40 CEST, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org :
Compared to that amount of work, stripping a few files from a tarball
using uscan is utterly trivial and I don't see why it is a problem.
It's quite a bit harder to do the right thing and persuade upstream to
not include them.
2014-04-26 00:08 Vincent Bernat:
❦ 25 avril 2014 17:40 CEST, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org :
Compared to that amount of work, stripping a few files from a tarball
using uscan is utterly trivial and I don't see why it is a problem.
It's quite a bit harder to do the right thing and persuade
Le Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 03:48:51PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit :
Ignoring a bug because you set your priorities is understandable and
(in some cases) good. Adding an override is not.
There are also benefits from using an override:
- It shows that the message has been received by the
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Sven Bartscher wrote:
nonfree [...], which we don't want to drop (as far as I know).
Some Debian members definitely wanted to drop it in 2004, not sure
about today though.
https://www.debian.org/vote/2004/vote_002
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
a generalized approach is needed.
Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same
reasons as static libraries and embedded code copies are undesirable.
Systems that do this already exist though:
https://nixos.org/
Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
a generalized approach is needed.
Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same
reasons as static libraries and embedded code copies are undesirable.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
a generalized approach is needed.
Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same
Le Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:11:58PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
a generalized approach is needed.
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