Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-08 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, now that the campaign period has ended, I will write my longer answer on -devel where it belongs. On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:38:34PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 05:53:46PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > I think this can't just be seen by looking at the statistiks.

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 10:14:59AM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner: > On Thursday, April 4, 2024 5:32:45 AM MST Andreas Tille wrote: > >[ ] Its not acceptable, don't do that > >[ ] We should discuss this on debian-devel, possibly do some GR > >before things like this are permitted > >

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi again, Am Sat, Apr 06, 2024 at 09:26:25AM +0200 schrieb Tobias Frost: > > I want to be able to immediately respond to future problems in this > > package. I'm fine with putting Debian Med team as maintainer, but not > > my personal ID (maximum as Uploader since I do not have any personal > >

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-06 Thread Tobias Frost
On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:37:19PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 07:59:56PM +0200 schrieb Tobias Frost: > > > > There is the possilbity to salavage the packagei [1], but that of course > > will > > only work if the person agrees to take over maintainance

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Holger, Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 10:42:35AM + schrieb Holger Levsen: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:26:03PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > also: (NMU-)uploads to DELAYED/15 are great. > > Sorry, I do not feel my time well spent on just curing a symptom > > (unfixed RC bug) via NMU instead

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 03/04/24 01:42, Marc Haber wrote: Dear Candidates, There are many people who see Debian as a technology project, with the technical goal of producing The Universal Operating System. I believe that Debian is both a technology project and a community. What are you planning to do to Debian

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Scott, Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 01:12:45PM + schrieb Scott Kitterman: > On April 4, 2024 12:59:34 PM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote: > >I would like to learn what options I have to realise paragraph > > > > Packaging standards > > > >of my platform. > > Obviously the DPL has an outsized voice

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 at 11:18, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:41:00PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > > Please don't get me wrong: I do not consider Fedora a commercial > > > entity. I simply subscribe the statement that we are facing some > > > problems in Debian since we

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:26:03PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > also: (NMU-)uploads to DELAYED/15 are great. > Sorry, I do not feel my time well spent on just curing a symptom > (unfixed RC bug) via NMU instead of addressing the underlying cause > that the package is maintained by a single

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Tobias, Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 07:59:56PM +0200 schrieb Tobias Frost: > > There is the possilbity to salavage the packagei [1], but that of course will > only work if the person agrees to take over maintainance and add their name to > Uploaders: or Maintainer: [2]. I want to be able to

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 09:55:56AM + schrieb Holger Levsen: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:32:45PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > [...] I could follow the normal NMU procedure but I do not consider > > this a sustainable solution. > [...] > > I did not uploaded my work but I would like to

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:41:00PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > Please don't get me wrong: I do not consider Fedora a commercial > > entity. I simply subscribe the statement that we are facing some > > problems in Debian since we are not a commercial entity. > > I think the framing is

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:32:45PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > [...] I could follow the normal NMU procedure but I do not consider > this a sustainable solution. [...] > I did not uploaded my work but I would like to know what action is > considered acceptable by the voters. I repeat that

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 09:55:33PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 21:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > > > > In practical terms, it would probably be made easier if it was > > > mandatory for all packages to be on Salsa, either in the 'debian' > > > namespace or in a team

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 21:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > > In practical terms, it would probably be made easier if it was > > mandatory for all packages to be on Salsa, either in the 'debian' > > namespace or in a team namespace (but not under individual users). > > Realistically, even if you

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Tobias Frost
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:32:45PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > in the light of the previous discussion I have a question to all voters. > Due to bug #1066377 more than 30 testing removal warnings hit my mailbox > today (I stopped counting after 30). While the Debian Med

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Thursday, April 4, 2024 5:32:45 AM MST Andreas Tille wrote: >[ ] Its not acceptable, don't do that >[ ] We should discuss this on debian-devel, possibly do some GR >before things like this are permitted >[ ] Wait one week before uploading >[X] Wait one day before

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 01:04:49PM + schrieb Holger Levsen: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:59:34PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I would like to learn what options I have to realise paragraph > >Packaging standards > > of my platform. > > I also think this feels a bit like abusing the

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:32:45PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >[ ] Its not acceptable, don't do that >[ ] We should discuss this on debian-devel, possibly do some GR >before things like this are permitted >[ ] Wait one week before uploading >[X] Wait one day before

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 13:40, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Hi Luca, > > Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:47:11PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > > > That's the price we currently pay for being not a commercial entity, > > > > > > I fully subscribe to this statement. > > > > I don't think commercial

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 4, 2024 12:59:34 PM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote: >Hi Scott, > >Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:42:11PM + schrieb Scott Kitterman: >> I'm interested to understand what you think this has to do with the DPL >> election or the role of the DPL within the project? > >I would like to learn

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:59:34PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I would like to learn what options I have to realise paragraph >Packaging standards > of my platform. I also think this feels a bit like abusing the election audience for a topic which should be discussed on -devel outside

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Scott, Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:42:11PM + schrieb Scott Kitterman: > I'm interested to understand what you think this has to do with the DPL > election or the role of the DPL within the project? I would like to learn what options I have to realise paragraph Packaging standards of

Re: Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 4, 2024 12:32:45 PM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote: >Hi, > >in the light of the previous discussion I have a question to all voters. >Due to bug #1066377 more than 30 testing removal warnings hit my mailbox >today (I stopped counting after 30). While the Debian Med package >clustalo is the

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Luca, Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:47:11PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > As far as I know other major distributions do not undertake the time_t > > 64bit transition (whether this marks leadership or not is questionable > > but it will make us the leading distribution on those architectures in

Question to all voters: Is team upload in some example case OK? (Was: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals)

2024-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, in the light of the previous discussion I have a question to all voters. Due to bug #1066377 more than 30 testing removal warnings hit my mailbox today (I stopped counting after 30). While the Debian Med package clustalo is the only package that's responsible for this due to its

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 11:39, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > Am Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 05:53:46PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > "we now use Wayland > > instead of X11", "please don't create your system users with adduser and >

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Marc, Am Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 05:53:46PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I see a big problem that we do not follow common standards. While we > > have some teams with strict policies setting those standards internally > > to a

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-03 Thread Marc Haber
[snipped everything that I don't have an answer for. Neither removal nor quoting is endorsement or reject of what Andreas said.] On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:12:56PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > There are many people who see Debian

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Marc, Am Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:12:56PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > There are many people who see Debian as a technology project, with the > technical goal of producing The Universal Operating System. > > What are you planning to do to Debian from a technical and technological > point of

Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-02 Thread Marc Haber
Dear Candidates, There are many people who see Debian as a technology project, with the technical goal of producing The Universal Operating System. What are you planning to do to Debian from a technical and technological point of view? What do we well, where do we suck on the technical site? If