Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-09 Thread Griselda Cuevas
Actually, could you express interest here: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6e6a057cd0edabc3c3337b6d96bb3c3c86361e4c1ef673493659edae@%3Cdiversity.apache.org%3E Let's consolidate a single source. On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 16:11, Griselda Cuevas wrote: > Will do - thank you! > > On Tue, 9 Apr

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-09 Thread Griselda Cuevas
Will do - thank you! On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 15:04, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > Hey Griselda, > > Could you please add me to the list? I had expressed interest in helping > out. > > Thanks, > > Dinesh > > > On Apr 9, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Griselda Cuevas > wrote: > > > > Hi folks, as I mentioned in the

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-09 Thread Dinesh Joshi
Hey Griselda, Could you please add me to the list? I had expressed interest in helping out. Thanks, Dinesh > On Apr 9, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Griselda Cuevas wrote: > > Hi folks, as I mentioned in the diversity@ list [1], the call that I was > proposing to kick-off the D work was cancelled. > >

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-09 Thread Griselda Cuevas
Hi folks, as I mentioned in the diversity@ list [1], the call that I was proposing to kick-off the D work was cancelled. Let's please continue to work around shaping the D efforts in the diversity@ list. [1]

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Sam Ruby
[moving comdev back to bcc] On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:06 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > On Apr 3, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 7:57 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> > >> Consider the effort along the lines of development... all development > >> needs to be done on

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Apr 3, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Naomi Slater wrote: > > > as you are not the person driving the call, I don't think it is > particularly important that you don't see a rationale. our concern should > not be *how* people "should" work, but that people *can* work, and in ways > that suit them.

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Naomi Slater
I was being polite. whether or not you personally think a call is a good idea is not important in the context of other people wanting to do a call. and pointing that out is conducive to good community building. it is not demeaning or dismissive. throwing your weight around on the list to bikeshed

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Naomi Slater
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 15:03, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Personally, I think the right course would be to take the advice > that having a call when not specifically required to heart and to, > instead, do all discussion, agenda setting, etc on the diversity@ > list and drop the idea of having a call

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Apr 3, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 7:57 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> Consider the effort along the lines of development... all development >> needs to be done on list. > > Not all committees operate along the lines of development. > Independent of

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
My last words on the subject: > On Apr 3, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote: > > It seems that the right course of action would be to prepare an agenda, > distribute it in the divers...@apache.org list and gather input from folks > who can't join. Personally, I think the right course

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 7:57 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Consider the effort along the lines of development... all development > needs to be done on list. Not all committees operate along the lines of development. Independent of that, we often complement lists with calls, meetups, hackathons,

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Griselda Cuevas
Thanks everyone, as I mentioned before my experience in the Apache Way continues to grow, so I appreciate everyone's input and guidance, this felt very much like a good mentorship process. It all makes sense and I want to do this the right way. It seems that the right course of action would be

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Consider the effort along the lines of development... all development needs to be done on list. I think (I could be wrong) Sam's suggestion regarding a call was to discuss options on the effort (eg: president's cmmt, etc...) and not about the actual "details" of the ins and outs. Discussing the

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Shane Curcuru
Naomi Slater wrote on 4/3/19 6:06 AM: ...snip... >... but I am "interested in being part of the > committee and shaping the request > to the board" People can now show their interest and bring their volunteer time to work on this idea to the newly created mailing list:

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Naomi Slater
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 22:27, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Can I recommend instead of a call, using the newly created > mailing list... In general, Apache tries to avoid the use of > sync communication medium except when absolutely required. > > I think that esp for such a topic as D, starting the

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 4:49 AM William A Rowe Jr wrote: > ...there was no "accepted" > framework for async electronic meetings at the time the foundation was > created I often describe the Board meeting as a hybrid, with LOTS of async preparation before the meeting followed by a fairly short

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-02 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:44 PM Griselda Cuevas wrote: > To the point of no calls... > > How does the board meet and make decisions? That's a very fair question. The board practice is to assemble all of the reports, suggested motions etc days and sometimes weeks before the synchronous meeting.

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-02 Thread Griselda Cuevas
To the point of no calls... How does the board meet and make decisions? On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 5:43 PM Griselda Cuevas wrote: > Sam suggested a call, so that's why I initiated. > > > I think a call will help work out quickly a document we can socialize in > the mailing list. > > > > On Tue, Apr

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-02 Thread Griselda Cuevas
Sam suggested a call, so that's why I initiated. I think a call will help work out quickly a document we can socialize in the mailing list. On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 1:27 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > Can I recommend instead of a call, using the newly created > mailing list... In general, Apache

Re: {Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
Can I recommend instead of a call, using the newly created mailing list... In general, Apache tries to avoid the use of sync communication medium except when absolutely required. I think that esp for such a topic as D, starting the effort off using a method that inherently disenfranchises people

{Action by April 5] Vote on best time for the D committee discussion call

2019-04-02 Thread Griselda Cuevas
Hi everyone, Following up the original thread that sparked the creation of a Diversity & Inclusion committee in the ASF [1], I'm coordinating a call/videocall to discuss the proposal details to the board. *Action by April 5th, 2019 @ midnight PST* If you're interested in being part of the