Re: Tools for online meetups and conferences

At work I teleconference about 50% of my meetings, often with people in bandwidth constrained environments. There are only two truly reliable platforms in my experience. Zoom and Teams. Everything else seems to have connectivity issues for at least one participant. Hangouts is pretty good in a

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

Thanks Rich, I've not been tracking the discussion, but I have full confidence in the team here. I would be happy to provide a fresh set of eyes on a first draft of a proposal - trying to find the spaces that might raise objection that can thus be fleshed out ahead of time. Ross

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

I've NOT read this thread. It looks like there is constructive discussion happening, unfortunately I don't have time to read it all just now, so I'll refrain from commenting beyond encouraging work in this initiative. I did want to raise that quite some time ago we did alot of work thinking

Re: Apache Local Community (ALC) as a ComDev Initiative

; Ross Gardler Cc: Sharan Foga Subject: Re: Apache Local Community (ALC) as a ComDev Initiative On 12/6/19 1:15 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > There should not be a discussion on a prepare list. Please bring that > discussion here. This is a core part of the Apache Way. The discussion

Re: Apache Local Community (ALC) as a ComDev Initiative

There should not be a discussion on a prepare list. Please bring that discussion here. This is a core part of the Apache Way. --- Sent from my phone, you know what that means - sorry From: Swapnil M Mane Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 12:06:31 AM To: dev

Re: Apache Local Community (ALC) Next Steps

+1 ASF is a flat organization - by design. This proposal adds a level of hierarchy without justifying the need for it. If people are unable to conduct the business of this proposed structure within ComDev and/or VP Conferences then fix that, don't work around it. So, as Ted asks "Why is all

Re: Roadshow Seattle

Understood. My hope is we won't be asking for funding (depends on what our nascent group decides we want to do though). I imagine we will want help with promotion. We will have no problem meeting the member oversight requirement. The Seattle locals plan to meet next Thurs (lurking and local?

Re: Roadshow Seattle

Kevin A. McGrail > wrote: > > > Hah, I was just about to say ask Ross as step 1. > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2019, 15:08 Ross Gardler wrote: > > > > > Wearing my Microsoft hat, you have Microsoft engaged. > > > > > > Wearing my ASF hat I can he

Re: Roadshow Seattle

Wearing my Microsoft hat, you have Microsoft engaged. Wearing my ASF hat I can help with reaching local companies. But before we start reaching out let's decide what kind of event we want. I've been planning to do something for some time and would love to link up with you on it. There is a

Re: Roadshow Seattle

Yes. Count me in to help you organize. Get Outlook for Android From: Andrew Musselman Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:21:48 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Roadshow Seattle If there's any interest in putting one on in Seattle I'd

Re: Why should D be a president's committee?

ound legal situations involving law enforcement potentially implies a mixing of policy evaluation and enforcement. Regards, Dave > On May 1, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > Good points so far. One that I believe has been missed... > > Board committees have 9 bosses. PM

Re: Why should D be a president's committee?

Good points so far. One that I believe has been missed... Board committees have 9 bosses. PMCs have potentially many more. Presidents committees have 1. In other words, a Presidents committee can get things done more quickly in difficult or controversial spaces, especially in things that do

Re: Requesting the creation of a Diversity and Inclusion committee reporting to the President

As the originating VP I will state that the ComDev PMC was never setup to address D directly. It was set up to be a "welcome mat" for new people to the ASF. Predominently it was about running Google Summer of Code. The resolution was broader than this to allow an appropriate growth in scope.

Re: Requesting the creation of a Diversity and Inclusion committee reporting to the President

+ ComDev Com Dev we intend to move the D responsibility to a separate Presidents committee. The outputs will be fully integrated with ComDev, but actions will be separate in order to allow a scalpel like approach independent of the broader interests of ComDev which should focus on all

Re: Diversity / Inclusion

Justin Mclean has done some work on Apache Way teaching modules (added to To line as I'm not sure if he is on the ComDev list) From: Austin Bennett Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 7:19 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Diversity / Inclusion Hi

Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy")

Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy") Making accommodations. IMO, 'affirmative action' should be avoided too much political baggage. > On Mar 30, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > Let use the term "affi

Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy")

Let use the term "affirmative action" from now on... From: Naomi Slater Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 11:50 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy") On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 19:23,

Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy")

I think the assumption that anyone is intending to violate the code of conduct is a bad one. Lets not make that assumption. I think the problem is that *I* used the term "positive discrimination". That has led to an interpretation of someone elses words through a cloudy lens. Before making

Re: on "meritocracy"

racy" > To: dev@community.apache.org > Cc: Wade Chandler > > > On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 17:21, Ross Gardler wrote: > > > "this is the last time I will reply to you" > > > > Daniel has a sayibg that I hope we can adopt to avoid unproductive > debate. &

Re: on "meritocracy"

ache.org Cc: Wade Chandler On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 17:21, Ross Gardler wrote: > "this is the last time I will reply to you" > > Daniel has a sayibg that I hope we can adopt to avoid unproductive debate. > I apply it here to Naomi: "there is great honor in the email not

Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy")

+1 for JFDI I am generally not supportive of positive discrimination. But I recognize that I can afford not to be. As Shane says it's irrelevant what I think unless I'm going to put effort into an alternative (remember a -1 around here means you object and will work on a better alternative).

Re: on "meritocracy"

"this is the last time I will reply to you" Daniel has a sayibg that I hope we can adopt to avoid unproductive debate. I apply it here to Naomi: "there is great honor in the email not sent" Ross Get Outlook for Android From: Naomi Slater

Re: on "meritocracy"

"don’t see this here" - that's the root of the problem. I was the point of contact for the Code of Conduct for three years. I can assure you the problem exists, in some cases in very extreme ways. You might not see it (perhaps it's not in your projects) or perhaps you are blind to it (that's

Re: on "meritocracy"

I'll expand a little on "simple infra request" as I'm not sure if Griselda knows how to make the simple request. Short version open a ticket against INFRA at https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa Longer answer: https://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact

Re: on "meritocracy"

I'm in Get Outlook for Android From: Sam Ruby Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:07:59 AM To: Apache Community Dev Subject: Re: on "meritocracy" On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:37 AM Griselda Cuevas wrote: > > Another thing we should consider is

Re: on "meritocracy"

: Rich Bowen Sent: Friday, March 29, 7:58 AM Subject: Re: on "meritocracy" To: dev@community.apache.org On 3/28/19 11:28 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Naomi, you are showing great tenacity and patience here. I fully support your > goals, but I do worry that demanding the foundation

Re: on "meritocracy"

Re: on "meritocracy" On Thu 28. Mar 2019 at 18:46, Ross Gardler wrote: > Well said... indeed > > "Where we, the ASF, are and continue to be is abnormal. The difference > from industry norms is statistically significant. And durable." > > The only way fo

Re: on "meritocracy"

Well said... "Where we, the ASF, are and continue to be is abnormal. The difference from industry norms is statistically significant. And durable." The only way for this to change is for each of us to "be the change". There are people who feel they cannot or don't need to "be the change".

Re: on "meritocracy"

No additional comment from me on the word choice. I do agree meritocracy is problematic given increasingly popular views on the model in other places - I've always been careful to warn that the difference between a meritocracy and a oligarchy is minimal. Which brings me to the recognition of

Re: 回复：Re: Establishing an Events PMC?

wonder if Ted would be willing to interview a few people like this and write up the findings for us? Ross From: Ross Gardler Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 7:05 PM To: Rich Bowen; dev@community.apache.org; tedl...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 回复：Re: Establishing

Re: 回复：Re: Establishing an Events PMC?

Yes, you can absolutely count on me to help in any way possible. I'd love to be a part of closing the loop on what we started all those years ago. I've been much less active recently it would be an honor to help you kick of the next stage. Ross From:

Moderators for comdev

I'm still listed as a moderator for ComDev but I don't ever seem to take action on a moderation email. This makes me think I ought to be removed. Before I request this change can you please confirm if you are an active moderator OR are willing to become an active moderator. Ross

RE: MSDN Subscription for Apache Committers

iption for Apache Committers to avoid the issues we are currently seeing with renew process ? On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Ross Gardler <r...@gardler.org> wrote: > It's OK, go ahead and submit. I'll dedupe if necessary (I'm the first > point of failure in the hand ove

RE: MSDN Subscription for Apache Committers

for Apache Committers > On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Ross Gardler <r...@gardler.org> wrote: > > If it were a year ago yes, please resubmit. I updated the forma round 6 > months ago when I picked this up (though as I freely acknowledge "picking it > up" is over st

RE: MSDN Subscription for Apache Committers

on, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Ross Gardler <r...@gardler.org> wrote: > Indeed this is messed up on the MS side (I work for MS I can say that > ;-) > > I'm really sorry that the majority of people are having problems with > this offer. I can reassure you that if you filled in

RE: MSDN Subscription for Apache Committers

I just checked. It's there right now. But it is only accessible to ASF committers. -Original Message- From: Isuru Haththotuwa [mailto:isurulu...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:59 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: MSDN Subscription for Apache Committers On Wed, Mar

RE: MSDN Subscription for Apache Committers

Indeed this is messed up on the MS side (I work for MS I can say that ;-) I'm really sorry that the majority of people are having problems with this offer. I can reassure you that if you filled in the form I have your details and will follow through ASAP. Unfortunately that is truly not quickly

Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

I say "don't feed the troll". Those who feel this is important should carry. Those with other views need not participate. Ross --- Twitter: @rgardler From: Shawn McKinney Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 7:45:43 PM To:

RE: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

The ASF is a volunteer run organization. We have volunteers who care. They are volunteering their scarce resources to help address an issue that many (myself included) feel is important. You may disagree with the importance but since nobody requires or expects your participation that’s just

Re: Adding some statistics to projects.a.o?

The problem I see is that it looks like we are flat lining. If course what is happening is there are growing projects, stable projects and shrinking projects, together it looks flat. I find it misrepresentative as a result. Ross --- Twitter: @rgardler From:

Re: On wearing multiple hats

First, I'm tired of hearing it too but let's not be fooled, most of the time it comes from people ill informed about how the ASF works. We use social controls within the projects and we have a fully independent board to handle escalations should a community member feel that their (or anothers)

Re: recognizing valuable non-code contributions

Many more than one, in fact one of the early members fits this category. --- Twitter: @rgardler From: hedh...@gmail.com on behalf of Niclas Hedhman Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:11:59 PM To: dev@community.apache.org

Re: recognizing valuable non-code contributions

My preferred approach is option 1. If you document the role of "committee" as "someone who is committed to the project" then this works well. --- Twitter: @rgardler From: A. Soroka Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:50:50 AM To:

RE: [Fwd: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!]

I supervised a capstone project last year. The overhead was significant but, theoretically, the reward was good. The problem was that, in my case, the students did not provide patches as part of their work. Instead we got a monster patch which is still sitting in JIRA waiting for me to find the

Re: Webinar Request for Hackbright Academy

I can help Get Outlook for iOS On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:29 AM -0700, "Sharan Foga" > wrote: Hi Everyone We've had a request for a webinar for Hackbright Academy for the week of 25th – 29th July. Their preferred

RE: Code of Conduct - Over Responding

+1 This is not really a CoC issue, more of a best practice one. Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Rich Bowen Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:17 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Code of Conduct - Over Responding The

RE: How to edit a "Help Wanted" task

I asked Daniel about this at apachecon. Delete and recreate is the only option (unless someone wants to contribute a patch, which would be very welcome). Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Rich Bowen Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:54 PM To:

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

to Participate on > Apache Projects?) > > On 30/05/2016 18:30, Ross Gardler wrote: > > Yes. Thanks to everyone working this out. > > Done. Thanks Marvin. > > The next step is to expand the list of contacts. The call for volunteers was > made on the private members@ ma

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

te on Apache Projects?) On 29/05/2016 23:07, Ross Gardler wrote: > For the record I do have training in counselling. Its fairly lightweight and > basically boils down to knowing how to respond and when to escalate to a > specialist. Ross, There looks to be general agreement that ar

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

For the record I do have training in counselling. Its fairly lightweight and basically boils down to knowing how to respond and when to escalate to a specialist. Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Ross Gardler<mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:06 PM To:

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

This doesn't seem particularly difficult to grasp, and allows a less experienced volunteer to usher in advice and support from the rest of the team. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > > I don’t think you’ll see that

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

I don’t think you’ll see that benefit. Privacy and safety from repudiation is a critical factor. You don't get that with a group sharing experiences and reports. In some cases I have agreed never to reveal the fact a complaint was made. That’s why I have only provided estimated counts. I don’t

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

I think Niclas meant “if the President were part of the complaint”, rather than them being part of the problem being solved. An unfortunate misunderstanding ?? I do think your points are valid. My experience supports them. Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Joe

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

roup here please feel free to reach out onlist or, if you feel you want to say things better said privately, try Sharan who started the thread (or anyone else you feel comfortable mailing with your thoughts). Ross > -Original Message- > From: Ross Gardler > Sent: Thursday, M

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

Apache is about producing OSS. So as described here this is not a good fit for our charitable mission. But there are ways our communities might help. For example, take a look at Fineract (incubating) (added here). This is a project originally created by the Mifos Foundation. Mifos continues

RE: Guidance for Contribution in Apache foundation

Start on our newcomers page. It should answer most of your general questions. See http://community.apache.org/newcomers/ If you have specific questions about the foundation this is the place to ask. If you find a project your are interested in after reading the above pages then you can ask

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

om%7ccd4754e6d36e4f > 4f386208d380e1435b%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1= > XYd1BwmJPEDKWucapSE6OnSLigX0z0ugqAe7ZXK9qac%3d > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Ross Gardler > <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> > wrote: > > > My point is that the Members *are* the foundation. The boa

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

t: Re: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects? > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Ross Gardler > <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> > wrote: > > > The board can consider it or the members can do it. > > > > Outreach is only meaningful a

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

The board can consider it or the members can do it. > -Original Message- > From: gch...@gmail.com [mailto:gch...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Greg > Chase > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:28 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache

RE: Attendee Numbers for Big Data & Apachecon Presentation Sessions

Rich Bowen is the holder of all things ApacheCon. He'll make sure it goes to the right place. Ross > -Original Message- > From: Sharan Foga [mailto:sharan.f...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:48 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Attendee Numbers for Big Data &

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

We do not have current strategies. We've tried many things in the past but they've never really succeeded. I'll not speculate on why, it's a complex issue. What I will say (with my Presidents hat firmly on), is that if folks come up with a strategy that is in line with our charitable mission

RE: Help with task: Help ensure our events calendar is up to date and complete

Hi Ricardo, Please take a look at the document at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/tools/help-wanted.md, this will show you how to get started. We look forward to your contributions. Ross > -Original Message- > From: Ricardo [mailto:r.jime...@live.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 15,

RE: cross-project communication space?

I should add that I wasn't applying that quote to anyone's opinion, and certainly not calling anyone a heathen ;-) I just thought it was humorous and I love Terry Pratchett who riffed on this quote for many years ("turtles all the way down"). > -Original Message- > Fr

RE: cross-project communication space?

-1 on a PMC to coordinate the coordination of a cross-project coordination :-) I just put the following quote in a deck I'll be using lately, seems applicable... My opponent’s reasoning reminds me of the heathen, who, being asked on what the world stood, replied, “on a tortoise.” But on what

RE: cross-project communication space?

Request a SL from infra. Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Sergio Fernández Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:02 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: cross-project communication space? Hi, as part of the discussions we have

RE: Help with task: Help ensure our events calendar is up to date and complete

Thanks Melissa, Adding April explicitly as her email came from the Help Wanted app and I suspect she is not yet subscribed to the mailing list. April, see Melissa's response below. Ross > -Original Message- > From: Melissa Warnkin [mailto:missywarn...@yahoo.com.INVALID] > Sent:

RE: Help with task: Help ensure our events calendar is up to date and complete

Thanks Melissa, Adding April explicitly as her email came from the Help Wanted app and I suspect she is not yet subscribed to the mailing list. April, see Melissa's response below. Ross > -Original Message- > From: Melissa Warnkin [mailto:missywarn...@yahoo.com.INVALID] > Sent:

RE: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric

Thanks for your interest, I've created a short doc with guidance on how to help. Rather than put it on the web I've put it right next to the code... http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/tools/help-wanted.md -Original Message- From: Andreas Zechmeister [mailto:djansyas...@icloud.com]

RE: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric

. Shashi On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Good point, thanks Nick. > > Ross > > -Original Message- > From: Nick Burch [mailto:n...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:44 AM > To: dev@community.

RE: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric

I've created a short doc with guidance on how to help. Rather than put it on the web I've put it right next to the code... http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/tools/help-wanted.md -Original Message- From: Arakanshu K [mailto:arakansh...@euclidinnovations.com] Sent: Tuesday, April

RE: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric

Yes, seems the help wanted site is beginning to succeed. -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:32 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric I wonder if perhaps, Ross, you

RE: Help with task: Help ensure our events calendar is up to date and complete

Hi Bob, Helping out here is easy and is a task that can be dipped into periodically. Take a look at http://comdev1-us-west.apache.org/events/, this is an application we use to gather information for http://www.apache.org/events/meetups.html It's an automated process that will result in false

RE: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric

Excellent. First thing you should do is give the code a try. See https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/tools/events_list/ It's a quickly hacked together solution but it works. Here's what I would suggest (feel free to deviate and create your own path, also note that these need not be

RE: Commons Convert

I'm not familiar with this specific library but in all likelihood it has halted because it worked well enough for those originally working on it. If you have your own needs and want to add more functionality just go ahead and do it. Then submit a patch to the project for inclusion

How to edit a task on the Help Wanted application

First off, the Help Wanted app is looking great - thank you. I just entered a task but realize I didn't enter a language for it and thus it is not as discoverable as it could be. How do I edit it? This brings me to some feature requests (do we have a Jira? Where is the code?) 1) Make it

RE: ASF GSoC mentor eligibility

Mentoring an ASF project, formally, requires you to have an ASF commit bit on the project you are mentoring for. However, the act of mentoring is a community effort. Engage with your project community offering your assistance and asking for someone to work with you as the named mentor. If you

RE: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

This is great, but... The success of something like this is not in the tool, it's in the content. I worry that by requiring projects to enter the data separately to their chosen issue tracker we are reducing the chances of this succeeding (and it deserves to succeed as a tool). Furthermore,

RE: Guiding volunteers

some manner, or to cross-connect with a generic arrangement? - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] > Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 23:37 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Guiding volunteers > > > > On 02/05/2

RE: Guiding volunteers

Before we go deep and technical in tooling, I think we should put a list together that *this* community would like to see. We can worry about other projects when we have or own house in order. A simple list, in the form of replies in this thread would be good progress. In fact a first

RE: Google's Summer of Code

http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html Sent from my Windows Phone From: Lionel Elle Romo Sent: ‎2/‎4/‎2016 7:32 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Google's Summer of Code

RE: Guiding volunteers

dev@community.apache.org> Subject: Re: Guiding volunteers On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > ...Before we go deep and technical in tooling, I think we should put a > list together that *this* community would like to see Maybe

RE: Request for a mentor

It sounds like you already found http://community.apache.org/gettingStarted/101.html if not start there. Apache is all about helping oneself. To find people willing to mentor you it is recommended you show up with evidence you will return more value than time you ask for. Everyone here is a

RE: Thanks for AOO

Original mail was sent to Comdev; no attachment. > > > > Followup with attachment was sent to private@openoffice.a.o > > > > On 4 December 2015 at 12:21, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > >> Hmmm... not sure. It shows up in my copy. > >> > >>

RE: Thanks for AOO

Did an attachment get stripped? -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 4:56 AM To: ComDev Subject: Thanks for AOO Sometimes, a letter can make your day!

RE: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

3d > > > > > > > > b. > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=incubator.apache. > > > > or > > > > g > > > > =01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c373

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

At this point we don't have enough people in China who also understand the Apache Way to drive it forwards. We have some really great help from people like Ted and we have a handful of ASF people on the ground, but we don't have enough to really build momentum - not yet. Those who are willing

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

True that any channel can be used for dissemination BUT it cannot use the apache brand unless managed by Apache itself. In the of announcements etc that management will happen through our Marketing team. Though I would suggest this list for development of the ideas etc. Ted, you already know

RE: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Incubation is one area where I think we can do more than just localize content. I think mentors who are at least aware of Chinese culture are needed. We, ComDev, should be a good place to help b build those mentoring teams. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Luke

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Localized content is a great suggestion. -Original Message- From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community I like the idea of

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

"The more challenging part is the culture differences where the sense of community, governance, contribution and the Apache Way are still at infant stage in China." I agree. This was my conclusion when you kindly facilitated my trip to China earlier this year. It is that trip that motivated me

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Why do those pioneers need a place outside of the ASF to do that? If they do need a place outside the ASF why does it need an Apache logo on it? -Original Message- From: Lei Chang [mailto:chang.lei...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:17 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc:

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

? I don't suggest that apache create such a beast. I would love it if apache veterans help with it. If I can help, I will, but I am handicapped by my linguistic ignorance. As it is often said, those with the itch must do the scratching. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 21, 2015, at 18:43, Ro

Apache Roadshow in China

I've mentioned the proposed Apache Roadshow in China a few times and finally I'm able to announce that it's actually happening. http://www.kaiyuanshe.cn/index.php?option=com_content=article=84 Thank you to all the ASF folks who are speaking at this event :) If you know people in China please

RE: Revive retre...@apache.org ?

@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Revive retre...@apache.org ? Sorry, what's retreating in this case? Is this related to conferences? On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > A reasonable assumption I guess ;-) > > That list has never had significant eyes t

RE: Revive retre...@apache.org ?

Why not do it here? If it gets too noisy then we can move. Sent from Outlook Mail for Windows 10 phone From: Daniel Gruno Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 6:54 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Revive retre...@apache.org ? Hi folks,

RE: Revive retre...@apache.org ?

to help. I recommend staying here until people complain about the noise. Ross -Original Message- From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:humbed...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 8:09 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Revive retre...@apache.org ? On 10/09/2015 05:00 PM, Ross

RE: Fwd: A $5B Value: The Code in Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects

This whole process is nonsense (not disparaging the work done by people here, it's good to see comparative numbers). My point is, as Daniel says below, it's all subjective. The value is not in how much effort it takes to pump out code - hell I've probably written at least a $B of code by that

RE: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation

Thank you Daniel. -Original Message- From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:humbed...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:43 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation On 09/25/2015 09:11 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: > Hi All > > I've just seen this

RE: Passion and vigilance in open source

I reckon Jim is describing a different kind of pendulum (see my earlier essay - sorry I got on a roll with that one). Jim's pendulum is something like: Let a = autocratic open source governance (vendor owned/benevolent dictator) Let b = meritocratic open source governance Let c = fully

RE: new comer

Welcome, Sounds like you haven’t found your way to the "Getting Involved" section of the Tomcat website? - http://tomcat.apache.org/getinvolved.html Second sentence says "The first step is to join the mailing lists" - http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html Once you have joined the dev list then

  1   2   3   4   5   >