Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-14 Thread Phil Barnett
On Sunday 13 January 2008 08:15:45 pm John Becker, WØJAB wrote: The anti-automatic  and   anti-everything-that-is-not-PSK31 hams have a very hard time understanding what the rest are doing. Some of us are just ant-Bully In The Neighborhood. You simply refuse to recognize that some modes are a

Re: [digitalradio] (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-14 Thread Jose Amador
For me, the proven offenders can be ATTENDED stations. The past week I was linked to a Winlink station on 40 meters when somebody started calling on top of us. I turned on my linear, and he kept on calling. Three options to be heard: my correspondent, me, and me and my half gallon linear.

Re: [digitalradio] (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-14 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Jose Amador wrote: For me, the proven offenders can be ATTENDED stations. Indeed, Jose, this is always possible. Who among us has not on some erroneous occasion transmitted without listening long ENOUGH, and instead unintentionally QRMed an innocent QSO? But VERY few of us would ever do

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Chuck Mayfield
This is getting ridiculous! It takes me nearly 10 seconds to say This is AA5J Is the frequency in use?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Roger J. Buffington
expeditionradio wrote: This is simply childish backlash directed at me personally because I opposed the Digital Stone Age Petition. It really has nothing at all to do with HFLINK or ALE. It will go away. Bonnie KQ6XA Actually, what is childish is the never-ending assertion by Winlink

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Box SisteenHundred
Exactly... they *just* don't get it frown Bill KA8VIT To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:22:37 -0500 Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink Look at it this way - NO transmissions without

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread Alan Barrow
Skip wrote: except in designated beacon areas or the automatic subbands ( where it is presumed by the FCC to occur, since unattended stations do not, and cannot, listen first for any other activity within range of the unattended station). All the ALE data activity is in the automatic

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread kh6ty
All the ALE data activity is in the automatic subbands unless the stations manually QSY off frequency under operator control. So what's the concern? As long as it always stays in the automatic subbands, there should be no concern. In fact, ALE is a valuable resource, IMHO. Skip KH6TY

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 08:14 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: Twice in the last seven days I have had QSOs disrupted by a Pactor Winlink station firing up on top of my QSO. Fortunately, both times I turned the power way up (from about 40 watts to 200 watts) and we were able to work through it. Roger - how do you know

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 08:05 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: This is getting ridiculous! It takes me nearly 10 seconds to say This is AA5J Is the frequency in use? In what mode?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Roger J. Buffington
John Becker, WØJAB wrote: At 08:14 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: Twice in the last seven days I have had QSOs disrupted by a Pactor Winlink station firing up on top of my QSO. Fortunately, both times I turned the power way up (from about 40 watts to 200 watts) and we were able to work

RE: [digitalradio] (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread John Klim, N3KHK
Sorry about the bandwidth. Stop the madness! how? Programmers love changing programs. As always flames to me, respectful and clean posts to the reflector. 73 ES CUL == Mr. John R. Klim II N3KHK ARRL LM-0008416263, AMSAT LM-2187, QRPARCI

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Comments in line Your problem, John, is that you are unable to stick to an argument of the issues. Instead, everything becomes personal with you as evidenced by the above ad hominem remarks. Disappointing. Wrong again Roger. I do pactor as well as RTTY and Amtor. I can copy each of them

RE: [digitalradio] (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 07:29 PM 1/13/2008, you wrote: John, do you really characterize the innovation that's been driving the development of new digital modes as madness? Do you really think that the explosion of soundcard digital mode users is the problem. No I don't Dave. But I do feel that some have come to

RE: [digitalradio] (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread Dave AA6YQ
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war Dave AA6YQ wrote: No one is beating on Pactor. The objects of mass disgust are unattended stations that transmit without listening, thereby QRMing other stations. Many of these happen to use Pactor III, but that's

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread Patricia (Elaine) Gibbons
(Elaine) Gibbons WA6UBE / AAR9JA http://www.qrz.com/wa6ube _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill McLaughlin Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:42 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters