Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-03-23 Thread Matthäus Wander
Alessandro Vesely wrote on 2023-11-17 10:22: On Thu 16/Nov/2023 16:47:48 +0100 Olivier Hureau wrote: However, I think you should have a fixed value for the /version variable in order to clearly differentiate the XSD version, Even thought it is clearly specified in RFC 7489 : ``` The "version"

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-03-12 Thread Hector Santos
> On Mar 11, 2024, at 10:33 PM, Neil Anuskiewicz > wrote: > > Wow, the stat on how many domain operators move to enforcing reject policy > sans aggregate reports shocked me. Trust the force, Luke. It should not be a surprise the client/server protocol concept of “email reporting” was always

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-03-11 Thread Neil Anuskiewicz
I’d say extend your thinking on why beyond the format itself. What else could be the cause? On Mar 11, 2024, at 7:33 PM, Neil Anuskiewicz wrote:Wow, the stat on how many domain operators move to enforcing reject policy sans aggregate reports shocked me. Trust the force, Luke.On Feb 28, 2024, at

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-03-11 Thread Neil Anuskiewicz
Wow, the stat on how many domain operators move to enforcing reject policy sans aggregate reports shocked me. Trust the force, Luke.On Feb 28, 2024, at 4:54 AM, OLIVIER HUREAU wrote:Hello,TLDR: I think Dmarcbis should not have reference to the XML format of the aggregate reports in 5.5.3 and

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-02-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:04:03 AM EST Todd Herr wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 6:27 PM Douglas Foster < > > dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I interpret your data differently. These domains collected data until it > > was clear that they could safely move to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-02-29 Thread Todd Herr
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 6:27 PM Douglas Foster < dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote: > I interpret your data differently. These domains collected data until it > was clear that they could safely move to enforcement. Thereafter, they > saw no need to study reports, at least until their

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-02-28 Thread Todd Herr
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:50 AM Brotman, Alex wrote: > Olivier, > > > > Yes, we’re firmly attached to XML for this iteration. With the splitting > of the documents, perhaps this could change in the future without changing > the functionality of DMARC itself. > > > > Agreed on 5.5.3. > I also

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2024-02-27 Thread Brotman, Alex
riginal Message- > From: Alessandro Vesely > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 4:22 AM > To: dmarc@ietf.org; Brotman, Alex > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML > Schema > > On Thu 16/Nov/2023 16:47:48 +0100 Olivier Hureau wrote: > &g

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-17 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Thu 16/Nov/2023 16:47:48 +0100 Olivier Hureau wrote: On 15/11/2023 14:22, Alessandro Vesely wrote: We've had quite some discussion on that scheme, which resulted in https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc/draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting/blob/main/dmarc-xml-0.2.xsd included in the current

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-16 Thread Olivier Hureau
On 15/11/2023 14:22, Alessandro Vesely wrote: We've had quite some discussion on that scheme, which resulted in https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc/draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting/blob/main/dmarc-xml-0.2.xsd included in the current draft. Indeed, I was referring to this one. However, I

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-15 Thread Steven M Jones
On 11/15/23 02:12, OLIVIER HUREAU wrote: As mentioned here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/ouSBtpMhD5KJp2osPfUXJktuoMQ/ I have found out that the current reporting ecosystem uses two types of XML Schema

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 14/Nov/2023 20:09:52 +0100 John Levine wrote: Thanks for doing this work. It cleans up a messy corner of DMARC. It appears that OLIVIER HUREAU said: I was personally thinking about the following options: 1) Specify Version "2" ... 2) Explore a JSON Format for Aggregated Reports:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-14 Thread John Levine
Thanks for doing this work. It cleans up a messy corner of DMARC. It appears that OLIVIER HUREAU said: >I was personally thinking about the following options: > >1) Specify Version "2" ... > >2) Explore a JSON Format for Aggregated Reports: ... > >3) Create an Extended XML Schema for

[dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-14 Thread OLIVIER HUREAU
Hi, As mentioned here: [ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/ouSBtpMhD5KJp2osPfUXJktuoMQ/%C2%A0 | https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/ouSBtpMhD5KJp2osPfUXJktuoMQ/  ] I have found out that the current reporting ecosystem uses two types of XML Schema Definitions. During