Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100, Tony Maserati ableton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? Maybe

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:43:13 +0100, Tony Maserati ableton...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100, Tony Maserati ableton...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Tony Maserati
I hear that - but if I want gvim I'll install gvim. What it's doing here is installing something I didn't ask for, well actually, it's fooling me into giving me something I don't need. Thanks. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Ed Smith
This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. On 1/10/2011 4:06 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100, Tony Maseratiableton...@gmail.com

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Monday 10 January 2011 15:02:35 Ed Smith wrote: This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. Er, no. xemacs is a fork of emacs. emacs has X-related dependencies

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
I hear that - but if I want gvim I'll install gvim. What it's doing here is installing something I didn't ask for, well actually, it's fooling me into giving me something I don't need. or you could just use the original vi that comes with the base system if you just want a console editor.

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Firas Kraiem
On 10/01/11 14:02, Ed Smith wrote: This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. Totally different thing. The emacs port install GNU Emacs; the xemacs port installs

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread RW
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:43:13 +0100 Tony Maserati ableton...@gmail.com wrote: I hear that - but if I want gvim I'll install gvim. What it's doing here is installing something I didn't ask for, well actually, it's fooling me into giving me something I don't need. It's not as if gvim is

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:02:35 -0500, Ed Smith abandon.every.h...@gmail.com wrote: This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. XEmacs[1] is not 'Emacs with X11

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Chris Brennan
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@freebsd.orgwrote: I'm sorry that you had to install software that you don't really need and I can help you clean up by saving your installed ports as 'binary packages' and re-installing just the bits that you _really_ want to have

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chris Brennan on Monday, 10 January 2011: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@freebsd.orgwrote: I'm sorry that you had to install software that you don't really need and I can help you clean up by saving your installed ports as 'binary packages' and

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread RW
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:00:39 -0500 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@freebsd.orgwrote: I'm sorry that you had to install software that you don't really need and I can help you clean up by saving your installed ports as

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Monday, 10 January 2011: Maybe because gvim is really *much* nicer than plain console-based vim sessions. How can that be the case, when gvim is an X11 program? I've used both -- give me good old console-based vim any day. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden|

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread David Demelier
On 09/01/2011 22:19, Tony Maserati wrote: Hi, I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? Thanks.

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:19:02 +0100 Tony Maserati ableton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? I

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-10 Thread RW
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:42:04 + RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:00:39 -0500 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@freebsd.orgwrote: I'm sorry that you had to install software that you

Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-09 Thread Tony Maserati
Hi, I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11

2011-01-09 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Tony Maserati ableton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm just curious - what's the point of including X11 as a dependency to vim? And then making a vim-lite port (which you usually discover after installing X11). How about making it vim and vim-x11 instead? It's