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Does anyone have any opinions on which file system is best for a busy
webserver (7 million hits/month)? Is anyone one system noticeably better
than any other?
Use stock UFS, just configure it properly. most importantly noatime.
Amount of cached data is more important than hit count. Unless
I have an ssh user who needs only to search some log files not in his jail. The
jail required because I don't want the user seeing the rest the machine. If
the dirs were linked to his jail, would that work?
man mount_nullfs
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OK I would say there's no pressing reason to consider ZFS for this
another ZFS fanatics. it is about performance.
direction for a filesystem, at 15GB if performance ever becomes a problem a
RAID1 of SSDs with UFS would make it fly probably into the hundreds of hits
per second range.
the OCZ Vertex IIIs (About $1/G these days) wired into a *hardware*
RAID controller setup to mirror them. This gives you blazing speed
just like i would read some popular street PC newspaper.
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the above). At least, that's how I do it.
or, you could consider using Postfix. It's much easier to configure and
implement content filters.
depends of who is talking and how easiness is defined.
Postfix is different. That's all.
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The Adobe website states that Flashplayer 11.2 will be the last ported to
Linux [although it will forever received security updates.] Flashplayer 11.3
I believe is the first to offer 64-bit support. It is rumored here that
Opera 12.5 is to be 64-bit - and could be ready now except that Opera
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=29968highlight=nfsd
Found this which I think says it all at the conclusion.
you are truly funny.
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Now here is the KEY. No where does it say it has the server side
function, only the client side.
/usr/ports/net/unfs3
Even if someone proved that it doesn't do NFS server work, i will
continue to use it as NFS server, because it works very well ;)
But there is no documentation on how to enable it to start
at boot time. The man unfsd doc is useless.
if you cannot read - yes. manual is very precise and nothing more is
needed.
Hoping some one is using this userland version of nfs.
yes i am.
Since your the expert on unfs3 because you have it working, would you share
some technical configuration information with us?
Such as
What statements do you have in the host:server and remote:client /etc/rc.conf
to auto start them at boot time?
in client - as with any NFS, use kernel
Hoping some one is using this userland version of nfs.
yes i am.
What manual are you referring to?
The man unfsd does not contain any information about what statements to put
in /etc/rc.conf to get unfs3 started at boot time.
because manual doesn't contain info about rc.d scripts. this is
Many thanks in advance.
Quick answer is No, NFS only runs on the host system.
but user space nfsd works. in ports - unfsd
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Of course ZFS doesn't need fsck. Until it fails.
Did you personally try ZFS ?
of course.
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I think it's likely that it is a 64-bit installation.
Not sure about that. How could the amd64 OS be installed
and run on a i386 machine?
it cannot.
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Needing fsck because the drive is failing and not able to store and
retrieve data reliably any more is a whole different thing.
or bad data stored because of non-disk errors.
least will discover that this is happening due to the built-in
checksumming and avoid many instances of silent
I am installing 8.3-RELEASE on an old 900mhz pentium laptop ... it's an i686
CPU.
By default, GENERIC has HAMMER as the cpu, and that isn't working. So I
tried both:
you've got into wrong directory
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf is right
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf is wrong, unless you have 64-bit
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC
Jason: It looks like you may have installed the 64-bit distribution on your
nonsense. 64-bit distribution doesn't run on 32-bit computer.
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English is not my native language, so i can make mistakes. ZFS is the way to
go if you need consistency + speed on a NFS server/service.
Of course ZFS doesn't need fsck. Until it fails.
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I had a drive fail recently, it was working fine until I rebooted. After
that the partition map was corrupt and I can't mount either partition on
the disk. So I made a copy of the whole disk using dd to an old USB drive.
There were several IO errors while dd was copying the disk, so I think the
I am absolutely new to FreeBSD and would like a simple 'by the hand'
explanation of how to install and use FreeBSD on a Pc. I tried to follow the
info from its website but explanations seem too cryptic for me to understand
properly. I'd like to try it on a empty partition of my hard drive,
Hi Ashkan,
I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature
set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS
because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator.
true. it is consistently slow.
REALLY from what tale do
i have 16tb storage. 8x2tb sata raided.
i want to share it on network via nfs.
which file system is better for it?
thank you
badly imprecise question. you may share any filesystem.
Not sure what you want to achieve. No explanation of raided - this means
nothing without precise description.
are showing me. Read performance OTOH is strange, zpool and systat both
reporting consistently an aggregated read speed of around 120MB/s during
the block read tests (which seems a bit slow for the drives - and indeed
systat reports the drives at less than 50% utilisation) but bonnie is only
be well within patent law to apply for a patent.
The patent office has never been very good at examining software
patents, and I have made a lot of money helping companies document the
prior art not cited in patents that are being asserted against them.
good there are people that helps.
Bad
First surprise, with only 4GB I had set primarycache=metadata,
you mean 4 GIGABYTES of memory is ONLY?
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I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the
feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first
I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will
gonna be the differentiator.
The idea that ZFS is faster than XFS is certainly a new one for me.
If the rest of the world thought like you we would still be trying to invent
the wheel.
???
what wheel.
UFS is already invented. For LONG time. And UFS+softupdates works great.
much better than new trash
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really - stick with FreeBSD UFS. it is really best.
Yes UFS is very good, but very hight IO ZFS is fastest if you use L2ARC/ZIL
on SSD.
if...
better just move heavy used things on SSD and rest on HDD. really it's
fastest.
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with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the
differentiator.
true. it is consistently slow.
REALLY from what tale do you people get such a statements.
There is no tale, only a feature set:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs#Features
And everything everyone writes is
Let's also hope that most patents that could harm us (should there
be some lurking out there) will have expired by then.
True. As most technology that ever microsoft invented is a quickly
reengineered or just stoled things that was already done many years
before in many other systems, very
Do lawyers not use the law to their clients' advatage -- often abusing it
-- just because they're wrong in the final analysis?
seems you never worked long with lawyers, or you are lucky and have really
fair one. If the word fair can be used for lawyers at all.
Most often they just want court
BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02
Consoles: internal video/keyboard
BIOS drive A: is disk0
all suggestions before seems like not reading your problem
description.
third stage boot loader fails. at that stage it still uses BIOS calls to
access disks. Your controller's firmware do
It is possible that Microsoft is going the way of SCO -- into its grave,
true. Microsoft know it is falling.
People got fed up with microsoft. They now want even worse and more dumb
software and hardware.
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dumb software and hardware.
You do realize that, that statement can be construed as a condemnation
of non-Microsoft software, AKA open-source?
don't generalize everything. There are good software, bad software, closed
source software, open source software.
There are great open source
this should not be ignored; sooner or later things will get nasty ...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/25/microsoft_patent_deal_amdocs/
The sooner FreeBSD gets rid of Linux-based software (apps, tools) in its ports,
the better. The FB Foundation and Core Team should enact a plan.
ports are
This is a scan of ports with linux keyword:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linuxstype=all
It looks somewhat silly to have to rely on those Linux-whatever things to be
a functional FreeBSD OS ...
still you are talking on ports.
In what base system rely on linux?
It made a first
even if not it's just matter to add proper licence to right ports in port
tree and require user to accept it.
Probably won't even have to do that. People can download, compile and run
whatever they want on a base operating system,
but as long as the base operating system (FreeBSD in our
Hi,
How to mmap PCI BARs from userland in freebsd?
In Linux the PCI BAR appears as a file in the sysfs file system. How can I
access PCI BAR as a file in freebsd to mmap it?
if you know the adress (pciconf tool, or by system call i think) then map
portion of /dev/mem
/dev/mem equals to
HDD Memory : 750 GB
SSD Memory : 8 GB
I wish to install FreeBSD on it, but I wanted to ask this beforehand :
Would it would be possible to install it on the 8 GB SSD sector ?
no idea how seagate momentus XT work.
AFAIK it tries to automatically move often used things to flash. so
install
His problem is that there's a corporate reglementation
of what he has to do, which he needs to obey in order to
the only cure for such case is changing a job.
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by the disk unit's firmware itself. (I'm not even sure
it works without software drivers, judging by the funny
little pictures...)
yes it works without any drivers other than standard SATA driver.
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the only cure for such case is changing a job.
A little drastic perhaps? Company policies can be changed[*].
depends on the company. But i assumed attempt to point out nonsense of
such policy were already done.
[*] It's important that the workers believe this. It helps keep them in
You're going to install FreeBSD as on any other hard disk. You
will then (hopefully) see a speed gain when in use. :-)
make sure noatime option is used in /etc/fstab
i use it everywhere, but with SSD cached disks it may be even more
important. No idea what is that drive caching strategy, but
The read-cache idea is very sound, mainly because by using it this way Seagate
would not have to create a special set of
instructions for installing and using the HDD.
I don't think that this drive cache is smart enough to really cache needed
things and not flush that cache with useless data
I'm wondering if it's just here or if other people also observe that
acroread9 makes the CPU spin at 100% (one load point), as if in a busy
loop. This happens for me on 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT alike (amd64), with
not me - i use xpdf. Free, open source, much faster.
A few things you could try adding to make.conf:
FORCE_MAKE_JOBS=yes
MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=4
I'm not sure this is supported on a _single_ core Pentium 4 CPU
(or will gain speed if it was emulated).
MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=2 make sense - one process I/O may overlap with other
compute
Are there any current options available to support on-access antivirus
scanning on FreeBSD?
FreeBSD doesn't need this as there are no viruses on that system.
And yes, I know that neither FreeBSD nor Solaris are renowned for their
sickly vulnerability to viruses, but we operate in a mixed
I did some testing several years ago with ClamAV, Sophos and McAfee (scanning
incoming mail), and ClamAV was comparable to McAfee in detection rates - over
98%.
i use clamav for mail virus checking and IMHO it is the only place where
realtime virus checking make sense.
some windows users
Saying that geli's CBC implementation is good enough for someone
seems to imply that it's somehow worse than XTS in general. Could you
true. i still don't really understand the difference.
I don't need actually anything other that inability to read data from my
disk for a potential thief.
2. Try switching to clang, it has lower memory requirements and compilation
this is simply not true.
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'CBC' -- [C]ypher [B]lock [C]hainig -- is well-suited for strictly
-sequential- data access. Try reading the blocks of a large (say
10gB) file in *reverse* order and see what kind of performance you
get.
how about randomio test on geli encrypted ramdisk?
AES-CBC still 3 times faster
If you don't need to detect modifications/insertions/deletions that
yes i don't.
i just want data to be unreadable for thieves in case of robbery.
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is it possible to speed up port make ??
i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram,
compiling xorg takes about 2 hours
Humorous answer:
Yes - get a more powerful computer.
Robert Huff
real answer - get binary packages.
I finally decided to take off my FreeBSD 7.2 server which is onlin esince 2009.
I will go for a new FreeBSD version and will move out all data.
you mean just new freebsd or new server? if first there is no need to move
data at all
Which version do you recommend?
Shall I go for 9 ?
or 8.3
i need high speed disk encryption (many disks running in parallel, lots of
data movement). i have processor with AES-NI.
geli give 150MB/s performance (tested from/to md ramdisk) using default
and recommended AES-XTS
and ca 400MB/s read and 700MB/s write using AES-CBC.
I'm not cryptography
what problems? Attach kernel output messages please.
Woj...
The thumb/flash drive is showing in the dmesg as ad1 but it is not available
to use.
da1 or ad1?
what exactly not available to use means?
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Just curious, I am sure the likely issue is a bad disk, but I thought there
actually not that likely.
i had such problems, occuring randomly on many drives, and all problems
disappeared after changing computer, with the same disk.
BTW i would recommend you to turn on AHCI driver
ad4:
And USB 2.0 hard limit is 60MB/s.
i have never seen USB 2.0 exceeding 35MB/s write and 40MB/s read.
even when connecting SATA disk over USB-SATA bridge.
60MB/s is wire speed. USB have enormous protocol overhead.
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However, after formatting it in Windows why duplicate it again in
FreeBSD? It serves no purpose that I am aware of. By the way, it is too
bad that FreeBSD is not able to take advantage of the exFat format
fusefs-exfat in ports
still i don't really care, i would reformat in as FAT32 anyway.
Format without partition table?
yes. Windows recognizes it properly except Win98/95 (which doesn't work
with large USB drives anyway).
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What I previously meant is that I had such pendrive, that
without former formatting in Windows, didn't even show
up as device in FreeBSD- was completely useless.
the result of XXI century way of programming - flash translator firmware
in that case.
They don't even read specs about USB
I could have provided specifics 25 years ago :) when I was involved
with this stuff on a daily basis. I have no idea whether it was
same as me. still it is off topic.
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I am having problem getting usb plug in /flash drive to come up on FreeBSD *
several boxes with different versions of FreeBSB os I have 3 boxes for
testing here at my shop.
maybe it's late but i cannot really understand what you mean.
what problems? Attach kernel output messages please.
Good luck with your nightmare.
if i would be in his case i would first not touch it and then slowly
analyze EVERYTHING that is used on that system, and ask users how exactly
they use it (i mean shared folders etc).
Then i will step by step fix things to proper state, waiting for
complaints
system. I'm not sure if such a tool could operate on devices
(instead of filesystem-based representations as drive letters),
but it actually _was_ a DOS-based copy convert utility
for the PC. :-)
MSDOS/PCDOS had -no- O/S functions to directly access actual disk
devices. The ONLY fuctionality
which actually works with FreeBSD just ripped from
package! (normal _empty_ FAT filesystem, no
garbageware added, no need to format).
zero difference. newfs_msdos take a moment.
It actually bounces from 40MB/s limit when reading
from it.
Writing is about 18MB/s.
Device is supposed to be
ignore its GNU/Linux orientation and go for the numbers:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ubuntu_aesni_intel
seems just like popular sites are providing strange untrue data. site
says 2-3 times improvement at most, exactly what i found.
--
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It seems like all you know how to do is engage in ignorant, uninformed,
personal attacks/insults.
if you would read more carefully then you will see clearly that i am
personally attacked most often.
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Seriously though, I wish people would stop feeding this TROLL. There is
absolutely no upside to it. As has been stated so eloquently many times
before, Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their
level, then beat you with experience.
so why you are continuing that thread?
People
I've done fsck -F in single user mode but there are warnings about not being
able to fix this.
without the messages from fsck i cannot help you.
there are rare cases when mess gets written to inodes that fsck will not
corrent it and you have to do it yourself. most often - using clri(8).
how about fsck_ffs -y / in single user mode?
seems like no clri is needed.
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It fixed the problem :-)
you may risk putting
fsck_y_enable=YES
in your rc.conf
i put background_fsck=NO in
At the prompt I give the command startx
I get a message that /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 does not exist.
Copy the file from another system and I get
copying files instead of installing packages isn't bright idea, unless you
copy complete /usr/local tree.
Copy the file from another system and I get
X server already running on display :0
/usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: Can't open
/usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: File or catalog does not exist
this is an answer i think
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i run xdm normally. after logging it runs my $HOME/.xsession that starts
things like fvwm2
i wanted to run gnome-session once, changed fvwm2 to
/usr/local/bin/gnome-sessions
after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea
where to seek error messages at all.
with
Is this a typo?
According to the Handbook, /usr/local/bin/gnome-session
(without trailing 's') should be executed.
indeed a typo.
thank you.
after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea
where to seek error messages at all.
Maybe errors are reported to the 1st
from manual page it seems good. But is it actually stable? How one can
free unused space from gvirstor device? (eg. i made a partition and don't
need it any more).
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adding
DisplayManager*authName:MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1
solves the problem.
Do you have any data about preparations that gdm do?
The Handbook mentions /proc to be mounted, but that's not
related. The settings
gdm_enable=YES
gnome_enable=YES
in /etc/rc.conf would
During the boot process I get these messages.
I want to find the physical USB v2.0 ports on the computer box.
How can I do this?
usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0
but trying only.
plug
In 8.x and older when I plugged in my usb thumb drive I got some messages on
the console. But in 9.0 and 9.1 those message no longer show up on my
i run 9.0 and after i plug any USB device kernel output messages as usual.
It always get displayed on first console (ttyv0), the rest depends on
regulations have been tightened further recently as to mandate
sector-level encryption of the hard disks as well, just to be on the
sure(rer) side. At least in certain particularly sensitive areas.
which may be a proof that governments know backdoors alloving recovery
from encrypted drives
am i doing something wrong? i have processor with AES-NI support.
I've seen a lot of tests showing AES encryption performance to be in order
of 1GB/s or more.
actual
#mdconfig -a malloc -s2g
#geli init -s 4096 /dev/md0
#geli attach /dev/md0
#dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/md0.eli
dd: /dev/md0.eli:
Indeed.
But getting GELI certified and approved by the relevant
institutions and agencies isn't that easy either. Yet without
no idea what are you talking about. For your own use you don't need
anyones certification. You need safe solution. geli just do this.
As for any government agencies
administrators had no idea what they were doing, so problems with a
permission denied would be solved by chown -R 777 /whatever! Needless to say,
great.
rm -rf /whatever would be even better!
it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is critical there is no room for
interruption of service.
Now,
developed countries.
Not really sure what you wanted to imply,
as SMB looks like americanism to me.
as well as SOHO.
As not the first time, some people here when lacking arguments say i work
for larger company. We have more servers in one place.
Esp. second is nopt something to be proud
1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher
than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed
before leving the secure area.
no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m
is enough to make data
entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the Gospel According to Wojciech is -not-
'the answer' for everybody, in every situation. *IF* you ever learn that,
Seems like you have 45 years of experience in words. nothing more.
Aggression is normal today from such people, that have good position in
some
Otherwise, you may run the danger of building a wall around yourself.
everyone should judge by his/her own brain which opinions are right.
Actually in every moment i try to encourage EVERYONE to turn on his/her
brain that we all have but rarely use.
To be ever able to use ones brain
for very old drives it may not
Would you be so kind as to point out the proof of that statement?
sorry but i didn't save that article on hard drive. So no proof if you
don't believe me i've actually read it.
The main point is that you have
- track
- intra-track gap
- finite precision of
ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches
flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs
fine for me.
I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs
and finally:
for i in *rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -ivd; done
That created
what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3
Oracle
oracle donated everything to apache foundation.
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can add FreeBSD knowledge to their CV.
That statement goes beyond stupid. At some point, everyone is a
You proved well enough about what stupid means.
esp your mail carmel...@hotmail.com
that's truly a mail address that System Admin should be proud of ;)
At least you don't worry about
How about data stored in remapped sectors, or any flash cache?
how about being able to restore random 0.1% of former user data.
Not really useful.
Flash cache is quite recent idea, nobody serious would like to scrap such
a drive instead of reuse.
agencies recover overwritten data? at
http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html
at first - it should be asked can agencies recover your data without
being overwritten first.
just use geli(8)
then second problem is even less problem.
Finally use geli (or similar method)
is there any simple way to get data about workstation that prints using
lpd from samba?
what i need is to get IP/name of workstation that queued a print job to
lpd subsystem through samba.
or is the only way to change everything to print to lpd directly using lpd
protocol? quite a bit of
The only good thing they seem *not* to have screwed with is VirtualBox.
not really. The backend part of virtualbox is great.
The frontend with is UUIDS for everything, XML and other trash is plain
terrible. But still - nothing better exist for the need now.
I didn't try by myself, but what about something like
print command = /usr/bin/lpr -P%p -J%J -U%I -r %f
in smb.conf?
I'm sorry to say that you additionally probably have to change
/usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/ctlinfo.c
near line 87 to
#define OTHER_USERID_CHARS -_. /* special
I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million
hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start from
scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering if anyone
on this list has switched from Apache to nginx.
it depends of your
It appears I was mistaken.
Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite.
first - it is off topic.
second - because all commercial software like that are designed for
uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a
danger not help.
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