Re: [Gendergap] How to increase the diversity of Wikimedia technical contributors and staff?

2017-08-07 Thread JJ Marr
I think Wikipedia editors should be a higher priority than technical contributors. If one looks at most of the STEM community, it appears to be a systematic problem in underrepresentation. On the other hand, in the editing environment, there is an underrepresentation of women identifying editors

Re: [Gendergap] FYI - GGTF case appeal

2017-07-15 Thread JJ Marr
for the mailing list if we stopped talking about this? Just a suggestion. On 15 Jul 2017 8:20 PM, "Nathan" <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: I believe because the ArbCom case regards the 'Gender Gap Task Force' On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 7:24 PM, JJ Marr <jjm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Gendergap] FYI - GGTF case appeal

2017-07-15 Thread JJ Marr
How does this relate to the gender gap on Wikimedia again? On 15 Jul 2017 6:00 PM, "Neotarf" wrote: Just to follow up, the WMF has now responded. I appreciate them taking time to review these concerns. >>>your best course of action is to discuss the PII situation with WMF

Re: [Gendergap] FYI - GGTF case appeal

2017-07-09 Thread JJ Marr
"I emailed the WMF in relation to my enwiki arbcom case" You're getting ignored because the WMF doesn't want to get involved in community processes. Sorry to be blunt, but you should try emailing ArbCom before making this type of posting.

Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread JJ Marr
I, personally, would rather that this list not be used to criticize specific editors in a forum that they have no opportunity to respond in. I'm not a list admin, but I'm pretty sure this list is for talking about general issues relating to the gender gap. I would strongly recommend to use the

Re: [Gendergap] Women's march speeches repeatedly put up for deletion

2017-01-30 Thread JJ Marr
Two wrongs don't make a right and using this mailing list to advocate for that crosses a line. On Jan 30, 2017 05:11, "Fæ" wrote: > Link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_ > requests/File:Activist_Gloria_Steinem_Tells_Women%27s_March_ >

Re: [Gendergap] Inside Higher Ed: "The Woes of Wikipedia"

2016-08-24 Thread JJ Marr
My favorite is the article criticizing "cultural logics" like "valuing logic over emotion… individual liberty over the common good, and a sense of entitlement wrapped in a defense of 'free speech'". Really makes you think… On Aug 23, 2016 9:23 PM, "J Hayes" wrote: > Yes a

Re: [Gendergap] Defining harassment: the first empirical investigation into the nature of creepiness

2016-05-12 Thread JJ Marr
We shouldn't conflate "creepy" and "harassment" at all, to be honest. Sure, plenty of things that are creepy are also harassment, but plenty of things that are considered creepy are just poor social skills (laughing inappropriately) and may even be due to health conditions (greasy skin).

Re: [Gendergap] Defining harassment: the first empirical investigation into the nature of creepiness

2016-05-10 Thread JJ Marr
Other highlights: >From the list of "creepy" behavior >Laughing at inappropriate times >Talking too much about a topic >Displaying too much or too little emotion >Smiling peculiarly >Having excessively pale skin >Having bags under their eyes and then >Here’s the thing: not being creepy

Re: [Gendergap] The Virginia killings: he says bitch as he aims the weapon at her

2015-08-27 Thread JJ Marr
Yes, exactly. It's probably much more likely to be race driven than gender driven, if you look at the reasons for his firing. I spent most of yesterday NOT looking at the news, making my husband turn off the TV when the news came on, and not logging in to any online experience where I was likely

Re: [Gendergap] Interesting new book on trolling

2015-04-01 Thread JJ Marr
Is that a referral link? On Apr 1, 2015 6:20 PM, Jake Orlowitz jorlow...@gmail.com wrote: This looks worth reading. This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things: Mapping the Relationship between Online Trolling and Mainstream Culture (Information Society Series) Hardcover - February 27, 2015by

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread JJ Marr
What will be discussed in this Kaffeeklatsch area? On Jan 16, 2015 4:56 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever else cis is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a coined term that is not used in

Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Update on 2012 editor survey results

2015-01-15 Thread JJ Marr
So, where is my money, Erik? On Jan 15, 2015 6:15 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Lest conspiracy theories get any more exciting, I've asked Tilman (who just moved into my department, and has been responsible

Re: [Gendergap] Women's wikipedia...was... Co-Op

2015-01-10 Thread JJ Marr
Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/9/2015 7:37 PM, JJ Marr wrote: You should try out Wikia. Make a female friendly Wikipedia, or something like that. Thanks. Have been meaning to explore it for other uses. Did see http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page which was pretty

Re: [Gendergap] Women's wikipedia...was... Co-Op

2015-01-09 Thread JJ Marr
You should try out Wikia. Make a female friendly Wikipedia, or something like that. On Jan 9, 2015 7:33 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: Was thinking about reforming wikipedia again! (fool that I am) and I started fantasizing about running into some billionaires I used to

Re: [Gendergap] WikiProject Women

2015-01-06 Thread JJ Marr
Great job! The discussions would have to be publicly accessible, to avoid an EEML type situation. Also, any consensus made there about external issues would not be applicable, due to the lack of open participation. On Jan 6, 2015 7:35 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Cool idea. I

Re: [Gendergap] Iraqi human rights lawyer Samira Salih al-Nuaimi tortured and executed because Facebook; where is her Wikipedia article?

2014-12-22 Thread JJ Marr
You can make one, if you'd like. On Dec 22, 2014 1:43 PM, Neotarf neot...@gmail.com wrote: Samira Salih al-Nuaimi (Arabic: سميرة صالح النعيمي ) was kidnapped, tortured for 5 days, and publicly executed in the city of Mosul, after posting comments on Facebook that were critical of Islamic

Re: [Gendergap] Iraqi human rights lawyer Samira Salih al-Nuaimi tortured and executed because Facebook; where is her Wikipedia article?

2014-12-22 Thread JJ Marr
Oh, forgot. But creating this article might fall afoul of the meatpuppetry policy. Neotarf is blocked from English Wikipedia, from what I know. Hence this post? -Sarah On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, JJ Marr jjm...@gmail.com wrote: You can make one, if you'd like. On Dec 22, 2014 1:43 PM

Re: [Gendergap] Women, cliques and Wikipedia's tyranny of structurelessness

2014-12-10 Thread JJ Marr
Does anyone have a proposed action plan to do anything about this? On Dec 10, 2014 3:05 PM, regu...@gmail.com regu...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with most of what risker says. There are several groups on the project that exert undue influence over their articles whether male or female. If the

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread JJ Marr
What is your proposed solution? On Dec 9, 2014 8:14 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Checking the votes at https://vote.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=1000title=Special%3ASecurePoll%2Flist%2F392dir=prev against the English Wikipedia database, shows an interesting statistic. Of the 590

Re: [Gendergap] coordination work off-wikie

2014-11-30 Thread JJ Marr
. In my days on campus women attacked were told they shouldn't be out at night.So marches began to TAKE BACK THE NIGHT. On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:16 AM, JJ Marr jjm...@gmail.com wrote: To quote you in the context of your dispute over a video, you say I dispute that it makes little sense

Re: [Gendergap] coordination work off-wiki

2014-11-30 Thread JJ Marr
, but it would cause the creepiness to go away. On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:42 AM, JJ Marr jjm...@gmail.com wrote: What do you propose a take back the night would be like? On Nov 30, 2014 8:12 AM, Kathleen McCook klmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, one can see easily how they move from topic to topic

Re: [Gendergap] WP:ANI on Disruption of Gender Gap Task Force

2014-11-29 Thread JJ Marr
Check your spam folder On Nov 29, 2014 4:05 PM, Marie Earley eir...@hotmail.com wrote: Okay, so this is the last message that I had in my e-mail inbox (it's from 4 September 2014). I've checked my settings and they show me as still subscribing to the list and the check-box to receive the

Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF

2014-11-29 Thread JJ Marr
To quote you in the context of your dispute over a video, you say I dispute that it makes little sense and why does it even need to add informational value? Why can't it just be to add aesthetics to the article as pictures and videos often are? I ask why don't you take that dispute up with the

Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF

2014-11-27 Thread JJ Marr
. The terms of use used to have a condition for it yearsvago but that was removed. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device -- Original message-- *From: *JJ Marr *Date: *Thu, Nov 27, 2014 10:25 AM *To: *Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation

Re: [Gendergap] previous (structural) collaboration withorganisations on women's history?

2014-11-19 Thread JJ Marr
I agree. You have to enter into a hostile environnent, which is very traumatizing towards women. On Nov 19, 2014 5:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: When you work in a university, you frequently receive proposals that want students (and sometimes academics) to be free labour

Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues

2014-11-18 Thread JJ Marr
Personal attacks are not permitted on Wikipedia. On Nov 18, 2014 2:37 PM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that

Re: [Gendergap] Essay by Bryce on how male Wikipedians can be better participants re: gender gap/women

2014-10-27 Thread JJ Marr
I swear I read this before On Oct 27, 2014 11:58 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: https://genderdesk.wordpress.com/category/bryce-peake/ -- Sarah Stierch - Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. www.sarahstierch.com

Re: [Gendergap] UN Gender Equality conference only invites men

2014-10-09 Thread JJ Marr
So do you agree or disagree with the conference? On October 9, 2014 10:20:51 PM EDT, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2014/oct/06/men-only-un-conference-gender-equality-if-only-it-was-a-joke?CMP=fb_gu I can't believe how the