Re: [Gendergap] [EE] [Wikitech-l] IRC web client for Wikipedia help

2014-08-13 Thread Emily Monroe
Interesting. You were just talking about IRC and #wikipedia-en-help and not using research, and now you have seem to given up. From, Emily On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: The chat system mentioned by Quiddity may actually decrease the number of helpees in

Re: [Gendergap] [EE] [Wikitech-l] IRC web client for Wikipedia help

2014-08-13 Thread Emily Monroe
Sorry if my previous email seemed a little harsh or confused. I don't think a chatroom is non-confusing enough. One other way helpees often fail hard is that they confuse messages sent to other helpees as being directed at them. They don't realize it's a public chatroom. We would need a system

Re: [Gendergap] [EE] [Wikitech-l] IRC web client for Wikipedia help

2014-08-13 Thread Pine W
Research about the chatroom concept, not so much about IRC alone. We can't practically run research projects about every change. Chatrooms would be a major change and be resource intensive to start, so research makes sense before starting this implementation. Pine Pine On Aug 13, 2014 7:15 AM,

Re: [Gendergap] [EE] [Wikitech-l] IRC web client for Wikipedia help

2014-08-13 Thread Pine W
We might be able to create one on one chats somehow on IRC or with chatrooms. The concept makes sense. Pine On Aug 13, 2014 11:11 AM, Emily Monroe emilymonro...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if my previous email seemed a little harsh or confused. I don't think a chatroom is non-confusing enough.

Re: [Gendergap] [EE] [Wikitech-l] IRC web client for Wikipedia help

2014-08-12 Thread Pine W
Thanks for finding that page. I don't know how much that kind of chat system would help our editor numbers but it's worth discussing. Any comments from the Growth and EE teams? Pine On Aug 12, 2014 8:10 PM, quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com wrote: The pro and cons of web-chat, and some technical

Re: [Gendergap] [EE] [Wikitech-l] IRC web client for Wikipedia help

2014-08-12 Thread Emily Monroe
I don't think you realize how little helpers there actually are. A lot of responses, as is, go unanswered. We don't need increased participation in #wikipedia-en-help, unless it's increased participation from helpers and not helpees. From, Emily On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Pine W

Re: [Gendergap] [EE] [Wikitech-l] IRC web client for Wikipedia help

2014-08-12 Thread Pine W
The chat system mentioned by Quiddity may actually decrease the number of helpees in IRC by encouraging them to use the dedicated messaging system which we hope will appeal to experienced users who will choose to join the category-based chatrooms. Or the chatrooms may fail hard. Research data