Interesting. You were just talking about IRC and #wikipedia-en-help and not using research, and now you have seem to given up.
From, Emily On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > The chat system mentioned by Quiddity may actually decrease the number of > helpees in IRC by encouraging them to use the dedicated messaging system > which we hope will appeal to experienced users who will choose to join the > category-based chatrooms. Or the chatrooms may fail hard. Research data > about the chatroom concept would be good before committing to develop it. > > Pine > On Aug 12, 2014 9:45 PM, "Emily Monroe" <emilymonro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't think you realize how little helpers there actually are. A lot of >> responses, as is, go unanswered. We don't need increased participation in >> #wikipedia-en-help, unless it's increased participation from helpers and >> not helpees. >> >> From, >> Emily >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for finding that page. I don't know how much that kind of chat >>> system would help our editor numbers but it's worth discussing. Any >>> comments from the Growth and EE teams? >>> >>> Pine >>> On Aug 12, 2014 8:10 PM, "quiddity" <pandiculat...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The pro and cons of web-chat, and some technical options are collated >>>> at: >>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Live_Chat_System >>>> (especially the 2nd-to-last section, for "Why not IRC?") >>>> IRC makes followup discussion, or time-delayed discussion, too >>>> difficult, if the user doesn't use their identical username, and state >>>> their home-wiki. Also, it shows IPs if users don't obtain a cloak first. >>>> >>>> However, just for informational purposes, here are links for easy >>>> comparison: >>>> https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/test >>>> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#test >>>> ( the default client uses http://www.qwebirc.org/ ) >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Quiddity >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That proposal could be considered in the long term, but right now we >>>>> have plenty of people who seek and get help on IRC, and we can make >>>>> incremental improvements to their experience faster than we can build a >>>>> new >>>>> tool from scratch. Few newbies fail hard at IRC. The basics are similar to >>>>> texting and private instant messaging software. Let's improve the newbie >>>>> user experience. >>>>> >>>>> Pine >>>>> On Aug 11, 2014 1:48 PM, "Nathan" <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Newbies are going to fail hard at IRC. Pretty much all of the >>>>>> questions Seb >>>>>> poses for a built-in newbie chat still exist with a built-in Freenode >>>>>> interface, with the addition of a complicated and often difficult >>>>>> (not to >>>>>> mention culturally... unique) environment. Much better to think along >>>>>> the >>>>>> lines of the Teahouse, but live. You can jump into a chat queue, and >>>>>> people >>>>>> who want to help chat with you, and you can close the chat whenever >>>>>> you >>>>>> want, and you can't contact people outside of the queue using chat. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>>>>> wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> EE mailing list >>>>> e...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> EE mailing list >>>> e...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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