I don't think you realize how little helpers there actually are. A lot of responses, as is, go unanswered. We don't need increased participation in #wikipedia-en-help, unless it's increased participation from helpers and not helpees.
From, Emily On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for finding that page. I don't know how much that kind of chat > system would help our editor numbers but it's worth discussing. Any > comments from the Growth and EE teams? > > Pine > On Aug 12, 2014 8:10 PM, "quiddity" <pandiculat...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The pro and cons of web-chat, and some technical options are collated at: >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Live_Chat_System >> (especially the 2nd-to-last section, for "Why not IRC?") >> IRC makes followup discussion, or time-delayed discussion, too difficult, >> if the user doesn't use their identical username, and state their >> home-wiki. Also, it shows IPs if users don't obtain a cloak first. >> >> However, just for informational purposes, here are links for easy >> comparison: >> https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/test >> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#test >> ( the default client uses http://www.qwebirc.org/ ) >> >> HTH, >> Quiddity >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> That proposal could be considered in the long term, but right now we >>> have plenty of people who seek and get help on IRC, and we can make >>> incremental improvements to their experience faster than we can build a new >>> tool from scratch. Few newbies fail hard at IRC. The basics are similar to >>> texting and private instant messaging software. Let's improve the newbie >>> user experience. >>> >>> Pine >>> On Aug 11, 2014 1:48 PM, "Nathan" <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Newbies are going to fail hard at IRC. Pretty much all of the questions >>>> Seb >>>> poses for a built-in newbie chat still exist with a built-in Freenode >>>> interface, with the addition of a complicated and often difficult (not >>>> to >>>> mention culturally... unique) environment. Much better to think along >>>> the >>>> lines of the Teahouse, but live. You can jump into a chat queue, and >>>> people >>>> who want to help chat with you, and you can close the chat whenever you >>>> want, and you can't contact people outside of the queue using chat. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>>> wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> EE mailing list >>> e...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EE mailing list >> e...@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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