towards two forms to keep
the index.xml file in a consistent format.
Kind regards
Paul Angus
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From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 9:21:43 AM
To: Paul Angus
Cc: general@incubator.apache.org ; Rohit Yadav
Subject: Re: IP clearance officer for accepting Terraform
Hi,
Assume we have enough information abut the provanance and they are from the
same person/company I think one form is OK, but it may be easier to manage with
two forms.
Thanks,
Justin
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Got it. Thanks Matt.
We'll continue on.
Kind regards
Paul Angus
-Original Message-
From: Matt Sicker
Sent: 13 July 2021 20:39
To: Paul Angus
Cc:
Subject: Re: IP clearance officer for accepting Terraform
Secretary only handles the books here; I don't
, July 14, 2021 11:14 AM
To: pau...@apache.org; priv...@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: IP clearance officer for accepting Terraform
There are two codebases referred in the new git repositories:
CloudStack Terraform Provider:
https://github.com/xanzy/terraform-provider-cloudstack
Thanks Daniel for confirming. In that case I think we don't have any
outstanding concerns, all the guidance and advice we've received on
this thread has been attempted and resolved.
Hi Paul - I think both Daniel and Justin have been answered and we can
continue. Kindly review and start a formal
I have no concerns. I am not a member of the IPMC, just an interested
participant in the conversation.
On 7/11/21, 11:25 PM, "Rohit Yadav" wrote:
Hi Daniel, Justin, IPMC,
Are you happy with the answers to satisfaction? Do you have any other
questions/concerns, or can we continue
Hi Daniel, Justin, IPMC,
Are you happy with the answers to satisfaction? Do you have any other
questions/concerns, or can we continue with the IP clearance vote?
It has been three weeks since this thread, while the Apache CloudStack
PMC has passed the vote to accept donations in April 2021. If
Hi Justin,
Yes that's right, there's no 3rd party code in the latest codebase/tags
that is being donated. And yes, the large commits that brought the 3rd
party code in vendor directory have been all removed too.
Regards.
On Sat, 10 Jul, 2021, 6:26 am Justin Mclean,
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > However,
Hi,
> However, if you compare the changes in above commits against the
> repositories being donated the "vendor" directory does not exist now
> in both the repositories being donated:
> https://github.com/xanzy/go-cloudstack
> https://github.com/xanzy/terraform-provider-cloudstack (for example
>
Hi Justin,
Please see Daniel's email on the commits that introduce the vendor
related codebase. Sharing the links of the two commits from Daniel's
email:
https://github.com/xanzy/terraform-provider-cloudstack/commit/07febb7a6ba78e27224b37ad41e23bc4634b18b4
Hi,
> 3. On concern of IP on 3rd party codebase committed by authors - the
> codebase/changes are in the vendor directory which is where most of
> the (3rd party) code additions/deletions are seen.
Is this code clearly marked as 3rd party code and has the correct 3rd party
headers? I don’t see
ngus
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Mclean
> Sent: 09 July 2021 02:04
> To: Paul Angus
> Cc: Sander van Harmelen ;
>
> Subject: Re: IP clearance officer for accepting Terraform
>
> HI,
>
> > I've seen that you had some queries/concerns re
ACS PMC,
The IP clearance is tracked at
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/5159 and we have been in
the position since last week to start the vote on incubator@. I've
asked a few times but haven't heard from our volunteer ASF member Paul
Angus. As my last attempt to Paul - are you able
Hi Dan and all of IPMC,
Sorry I missed the previous email [1] on the thread as I'm not subscribed
to the general@ ML and missed the email. (Thanks Justin for the heads up)
I kindly request reply-all (to include the ACS PMC) or include me if you're
looking for a response from me, since this is
All,
We've completed most of the actions [1][2] per the IP clearance process [1]
and the initiative is tracked by a Github issue [2]. The ICLA and software
grants by the codebase/repo owner Sander van Harmelen has been acknowledged
by ASF secretary@ to PMC and all contributors have been asked for
> I would expect any one making total commits of 100s, 1,000s or more lines
of code major/significant.
That assumes it's their own code. There are three contributors in the
1000s of lines range, and while these contributors have done a great
service to the project, the vast majority of those
All,
Just a short update, I think we've reached out to all the contributors via
this Github issue which is also tracking the IP clearance process:
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/5159
As per
https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html#process
I think we
Hi,
> I've been following this thread and continue to see phrases such as "major
> contributors" and "significant contributions”.
That may be a bit nebulous depending on the exact contributions involved, but I
would expect any one making total commits of 100s, 1,000s or more lines of code
I've been following this thread and continue to see phrases such as "major
contributors" and "significant contributions".
Given the entire premise of the conversation here is on whether there are legal
claims to IP, could you clarify, objectively, what defines "major" and/or
"significant"?
Hi,
> Alright, I'll create a Github issue as suggested in the example to track IP
> clearance with list of all people and will try to reach out to all
> contributors within a limited time period and see if they can agree over
> the other legal thread and submit their ICLAs.
While having an ICLA
Hi,
Thanks for the clarifications and history it useful to know all of this.
> I started, maintained and build most of both these code bases. And as far as
> I know I'm (still) legally both the author and the owner of the IP as the
> company I work for (for the last 12 years) has a chapter in
Alright, I'll create a Github issue as suggested in the example to track IP
clearance with list of all people and will try to reach out to all
contributors within a limited time period and see if they can agree over
the other legal thread and submit their ICLAs. I'm not subscribed to the
legal or
Hi,
Thanks for the information and history there, that was quite helpful.
> My understanding is the plugin was originally started as a repo or work by
> Sander
> (https://github.com/xanzy/terraform-provider-cloudstack/commits/master?after=5e7ccfea50810303a6b205084fb6f0b3eade33ca+314=master
>
Thanks Sander for the clarification.
Regards.
On Wed, 23 Jun, 2021, 11:22 am Sander van Harmelen,
wrote:
> A, I just now see your message Rohit (it got in my spambox). But yes, I
> think the mail I've send just now is pretty much inline with your
> explanation in this mail...
>
> Sander
>
> On
Hi Justin,
The story is a bit different. I started, maintained and build most of both
these code bases. And as far as I know I'm (still) legally both the author and
the owner of the IP as the company I work for (for the last 12 years) has a
chapter in their contract that states that any open
A, I just now see your message Rohit (it got in my spambox). But yes, I think
the mail I've send just now is pretty much inline with your explanation in this
mail...
Sander
On 23 Jun 2021, at 07:30, Rohit Yadav wrote:
My understanding is the plugin was originally started as a repo or work
My understanding is the plugin was originally started as a repo or work by
Sander (
https://github.com/xanzy/terraform-provider-cloudstack/commits/master?after=5e7ccfea50810303a6b205084fb6f0b3eade33ca+314=master)
who contributed it to the Hashicorp Github org like many other community
providers
HI,
> Justin why do we need Hashicorp? They are not involved or are the owner of
> the codebase/repos.
My understanding was the work was carried out in their repo and that they are
probably the IP owner of the codebase. Is that correct?
Also, currently [1] redirects to [2], I can see they
Justin why do we need Hashicorp? They are not involved or are the owner of
the codebase/repos.
Regards.
On Wed, 23 Jun, 2021, 4:56 am Justin Mclean,
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As far as I know this is the situation. If anyone has any information to
> add please do so.
> - We have no CCLA or grant from
Hi,
As far as I know this is the situation. If anyone has any information to add
please do so.
- We have no CCLA or grant from Hashicorp, who probably own the IP. It would be
nice to have clarity on who actually does own the IP.
- We have one ICLA from a major contributor who has also filled in
Hi Justin,
I'm sorry, I just hit "reply-all" as I have no idea what's a private list and
what's not.
But I'll stop mailing...
Sander
On 22 Jun 2021, at 17:08, Sander van Harmelen wrote:
But we are constantly discussing that particular repo right? It's the aothet
one that was just added.
But we are constantly discussing that particular repo right? It's the aothet
one that was just added.
Sander
On 22 Jun 2021, at 16:05, Justin Mclean wrote:
HI,
> The license didn’t change for the other repo. It has always been Apache
> License, Version 2. Not sure if that matters?
The
Many thanks Dave for replying.
Justin - thanks for replying. I think Dave has answered most of the
questions. The reason this thread is copied to both ACS PMC and general@ is
because this was intended as a starting point for ACS PMC and it was not
clear to me how the IP clearance process works.
Hi -
This IPMC member is finding this whole discussion circular.
I’m including this link [1] from the discussion on legal-discuss@ which did
include replies from other contributors.
[1]
Hi,
Please stop mixing public and private lists. Feel free to forward any email to
the relevant private list but don’t mix them as it's very easy for something
that should only appear on a private list to become public.
> The codebases are under Sander's control who also was the original/main
Justin,
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 7:22 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > 3. Paul to update and commit the IP clearance:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/cloudstack-terraform.xml
> > and send an email to general@incubator (/cc to
>
HI,
> The license didn’t change for the other repo. It has always been Apache
> License, Version 2. Not sure if that matters?
The license for that repo I mentioned has changed in the last couple of days,
it was originally Mozilla Public License Version 2.0. [1] Yes this matters as
the Mozilla
Hi Justin,
The license didn’t change for the other repo. It has always been Apache
License, Version 2. Not sure if that matters?
Sander
On 22 Jun 2021, at 14:45, Justin Mclean wrote:
HI,
Again I request that you please don’t mix private and public channels.
IMO More than just a SGA is
Hi,
> 3. Paul to update and commit the IP clearance:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/cloudstack-terraform.xml
> and send an email to general@incubator (/cc to
> priv...@cloudstack.apache.org) prefixed [IP CLEARANCE] asking for clearance
> to
HI,
Again I request that you please don’t mix private and public channels.
IMO More than just a SGA is needed here, there are several major contributors
that AFAIK they have not been contacted and there are unanswered questions
about this IP clearance/donation. Originally only one repo was
to go?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> “A software grant must be provided to the ASF. This grant can either
> be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software Grant
> Agreement. The completed and signed grant must be emailed to
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
>> <http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas>).”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Angus
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rohit Yadav
>> *Sent:* 21 June 2021 10:25
Hi,
> Justin - yes all top 5 major contributors have agreed for it per
> https://github.com/svanharmelen/terraform-provider-cloudstack/graphs/contributors.
Looking at who has contributed the project I think it needs a little more than
those five and I’m not 100% sure who those five are. Have
>
>
> *From:* Rohit Yadav
> *Sent:* 21 June 2021 10:25
> *To:* ;
> general@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* IP clearance officer for accepting Terraform
>
>
>
> All,
>
> We're in the process of accepting the Terraform provider codebase under
> ACS PMC
r all owners of IP must sign
one of the three documents and send to secretary (reference
http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas<http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas>).”
Kind regards
Paul Angus
From: Rohit Yadav
Sent: 21 June 2021 10:25
To: ;
general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: IP
Hi,
> As the next step, I was advised by ASF legal and others in the list to
> follow the IP clearance process for accepting the codebase. I've already
> been in touch with Sander who currently has got the repository transferred
> by Hashicorp
All,
We're in the process of accepting the Terraform provider codebase under ACS
PMC. The ACS PMC has already accepted the initiative and a vote on the same
has already passed: https://markmail.org/message/g4prb25g7wakbifa
As the next step, I was advised by ASF legal and others in the list to
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