Re: Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Jousma, David
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please wou

Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please would you examine it and support of relevant for you. https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating

Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please would you examine it and support of relevant for you. Thanks Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Thank-you all for your responses. Again the IBM-Main community shows it's strength. I think I'll be sticking with ECS at the moment. Much appreciated, Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
oet, Kees Vernooij KLM Information Services z/OS Systems Tel +31 6 10 14 58 78 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 24 April 2020 11:20 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS W dniu 23.04.2020 o 16:

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 23.04.2020 o 16:29, Peter Vander Woude pisze: Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using ECS for the shared catalogs (which is all of them). What is the recommended method for handling the catalogs in a parallel sysplex, ECS or VSAM RLS? What

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-24 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using ECS for the shared catalogs (which is all of them). What is the recommended method for handling the catalogs in a parallel sysplex, ECS or VSAM RLS? Thanks, Peter

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-23 Thread Art Gutowski
- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >Peter Vander Woude >Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:29 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS > >Ok, building parallel sysplex. Forhthe catalogs I am planning on usin

Re: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-23 Thread Allan Staller
, April 23, 2020 9:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender.] Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using

Catalogs in parallel sysplex ECS vs RLS

2020-04-23 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Ok, building parallel sysplex. For the catalogs I am planning on using ECS for the shared catalogs (which is all of them). What is the recommended method for handling the catalogs in a parallel sysplex, ECS or VSAM RLS? Thanks, Peter

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-12-01 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ken Smith Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 12:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I'd still like to know how this works. What's in your master cat? What's in your sysres cat? Ken On Tue, Nov 22, 2016

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-12-01 Thread Ken Smith
8:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > > " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a > single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex. The master catalogs > were not shared , I think I would put forth one b

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Edward Gould
-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Eells > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:33 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (Ext

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Catalogs

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >The rule for IT is much like the rule for life: as soon as you delete/discard >something, you will need it the next day. ;-) Next day? Aw, come on! In IT it is wayayayayayaya too long in the future. I rather expect that need within 15 minutes ... ;-) ... or while

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread John Eells
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I have to admit that locating MCAT on sysres avoids one step that we need to take. We run seven 'sysplexes' (some monoplex) that do not share any resources including MCAT. When we install a new release, there are often new sysres data sets that need to be cataloged on

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX Agreed, way too much risk. We don’t swap master cat's at all either. No reason to, except maybe those shops that cannot fit the entire SYSRES on one volume, so you have the issue where DSN A is cataloged on the first volume of the set pre-upgrade, and post-upgrade

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread Jousma, David
616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX As noted earlier in this thread, sysres

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-29 Thread John Eells
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: As noted earlier in this thread, sysres datasets should be cataloged with volser ** and unit . That tells the system to look on the currently IPLed sysres regardless of volume name. BTW I don't subscribe to the floating MCAT strategy. Our master catalog lives

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-28 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
M Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Allan Staller > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > > " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes > fr

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Smith
to:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Allan Staller > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > > " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a > single system to up to 10 LPAR

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-22 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex. The master catalogs were not shared , I think I would put forth one big r

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-22 Thread Allan Staller
" Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex. The master catalogs were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we went th

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:44:19 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote: >I would put forth one big reason for not sharing the master catalog, >would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS upgrades, >there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed from >one release to the next

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
nday, November 21, 2016 2:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific mention of using a single shared master catalog in the manuals. It doesn't mean I was looking in the correct manuals it just m

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Travis Bream
for those data sets to be viewed on other LPAR's than the LPAR we create them on we must catalog them on each system. I would imagine that this is analogous to the processes involved with multiple master catalogs or shared master catalogs in a sysplex

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Srivastava, Rajesh K
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Travis Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific mention

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
By using INDIRECT CATALOG you can use different SYSRES Sets, but the same SYS1.** names. Lizette -Original Message- >From: Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com> >Sent: Nov 21, 2016 3:10 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
21, 2016 1:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific mention of using a single shared master catalog in the manuals. It doesn't mean I was looking in the correct manuals it just means that what

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Separate but equal? Or are they running from a common SYSRES Set? Other??? Lizette -Original Message- >From: Travis <tbr...@aessuccess.org> >Sent: Nov 21, 2016 1:53 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX > >We are creating a SYSP

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Travis
I was doing some research and I cannot seem to find any specific mention of using a single shared master catalog in the manuals. It doesn't mean I was looking in the correct manuals it just means that what I had been told may not be 100% accurate. The manuls do seem to IMPLY that a shared

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
We currently have a 2 LPAR sysplex and the master catalog in not shared. Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex. The master catalogs were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Travis Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Catalogs in a SYSPLEX We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debate about using a single shared

Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Feller, Paul
At our shop we have three master catalogs in the same sysplex. We run three "levels" of lpars and the master catalogs are by level. Our three tech lpars share a master catalog. Our three application test lpars share a different master catalog. Our 6 production lpars share a differ

Catalogs in a SYSPLEX

2016-11-21 Thread Travis
We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debate about using a single shared master catalog or multiple master catalogs on each system. The IBM manuals recommend a single shared master catalog but our CE has been advocating multiple catalogs. What are the pros and cons