Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Peter
Guy, you answered a lot of people about their brick answers, excepting mine. Is that a sign of approval ? ;-) Again: http://openbrick.org/ has what you need. NIC, sound, PS/2, video on board, MMC/100% linux compatible, metal case (durable), multiple sources (if they go out of business

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Peter
I forgot to say: the mini itx board format is 170x170mm. The rest of the case contains power supply, connectors etc. So you can look for a smaller case and you might find one. Of course real men build their own custom cases and power supplies. ;-) Peter

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
guy keren wrote: does anyone know if there are such things for sale, either in israel or via the internet? i imagine such a thing might cost several hundreads of dollars, and i'd rather buy something pre-built, then build my own - since it should be able to sustain movement shocks (after all,

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-06 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, The new kernel (2.6.13) has removed support for devfs. While I certainly understand why devfs is not on by default, it seems that removing it altogether is a bit harsh. Devfs has been a great way to quickly (say - inside an initrd) get a clear picture of what

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: If you used devfs to find out what hardware you're running on, then you should consider using sysfs instead. It's an official part of 2.6 anyway. Yes, I know. It's just that sysfs's way of giving you the major/minor numbers, and leaving you with the question of ok, so

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-06 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: If you used devfs to find out what hardware you're running on, then you should consider using sysfs instead. It's an official part of 2.6 anyway. Yes, I know. It's just that sysfs's way of giving you the major/minor numbers, and leaving you

Re: devfs - gone

2005-09-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Congratulations! You just re-invented udev (sort of). I know :-(. Thing is, udev still doesn't exactly solve my problem - it does not give me preknown names for devices for specific hardware (not unless I invest the same amount of work or more as writing the script I

Re: sys / db performance block size

2005-09-06 Thread Michael Ben-Nes
After few test, not certain yet i found *Surprise*Surprise* ext3 is quite fast especially when using dir_index This is the command i issued. i was recommended going on Journal size of 400 ( not really sure why ). mke2fs -j -J size=400 -O dir_index -T largefile /dev/sdb1 testing it with

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Sorry but: 2.9 pounds = 1.31541787 kilograms you're right. i pressed the wrong button on some pounds = kg translation web site :0 now all i need to do is find something that weighs about 1.3kg in order to get the feels how how heavy it feels... ;)

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Peter wrote: you answered a lot of people about their brick answers, excepting mine. Is that a sign of approval ? ;-) it means that i had to investigate this further, and at first (due to incorrect usage of a pounds = g translation web site) i thought the current bricks

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: You can buy an evalutation kit from Compulab in Haifa of their 686CORE. It fit your needs, except that you'd have to find some small case for it. AFAIK it costs around 1500 US$. There is also the issue of their not quite kosher use of binary only

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Marc A. Volovic wrote: I significantly disagree with Tsafrir. so do i ;) What you want and can use is a vortex86 machine/box. They are very small, have a very light power footprint, easy to add bits and pieces to, are a full i386 machine. They ARE very underpowered

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Peter
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, guy keren wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Peter wrote: you answered a lot of people about their brick answers, excepting mine. Is that a sign of approval ? ;-) it means that i had to investigate this further, and at first (due to incorrect usage of a pounds = g translation

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Eli Marmor wrote: I was (and I am still) too busy to follow the thread and yet i'm sure you'll start answering every mail on this thread from now on ;) , and maybe it was already written here, but there are complete PCs of 380gr-500gr, including EVERYTHING (keyboard,

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Marc A. Volovic
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 19:46 +0300, guy keren wrote: indeed, with the fastest running at 166MHz, they're too weak for my needs. not to mention the need to assemble a box on my own. What level of price/performance do you want? Do you require a VGA screen and PS/2? There are quite a few Geode

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Marc A. Volovic wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 19:46 +0300, guy keren wrote: indeed, with the fastest running at 166MHz, they're too weak for my needs. not to mention the need to assemble a box on my own. What level of price/performance do you want? the performance

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Marc A. Volovic
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 22:16 +0300, guy keren wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Marc A. Volovic wrote: What level of price/performance do you want? the performance should allow me to run a fairly recent linux distribution - i can't just choose it, since i have to use certain

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Amos Shapira
On 9/7/05, guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Sorry but: 2.9 pounds = 1.31541787 kilograms you're right. i pressed the wrong button on some pounds = kg translation web site :0 Do people still use such sites? That's another reason to just

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Marc A. Volovic wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 22:16 +0300, guy keren wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Marc A. Volovic wrote: What level of price/performance do you want? the performance should allow me to run a fairly recent linux distribution - i can't just choose it,

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Marc A. Volovic
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 07:04 +0300, guy keren wrote: 1. this shop doesn't seem to perform international shipments. and i heard that mustop's delivery prices are rather hefty... Can be overcome. If this is the last objection, tell me. 2. there's no mention on their site regarding a power

Re: OT: how do i get an ulta-small PC?

2005-09-06 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 07:04:56AM +0300, guy keren wrote: i'll have to check linux compatibility and shipment issues, and then choose between this ebox-3850PS and the nimble-v5, most likely. according to the FAQ, the most modern distributions will pause a little challenge to install on