Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-27 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/8/26 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amos presumably needs a working solution TODAY. Promises for bright Not TODAY, YESTERDAY. These monitors are sitting unused for almost a week now. future are irrelevant. If he chooses ATI cards, he should use only 1st reason to justify his choice.

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-27 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 27 August 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/8/26 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amos presumably needs a working solution TODAY. Promises for bright Not TODAY, YESTERDAY. These monitors are sitting unused for almost a week now. future are irrelevant. If he chooses ATI cards, he

When to boycott hardware only partially supported by Linux? (Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?)

2008-08-27 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 15:07 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/8/26 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amos presumably needs a working solution TODAY. Promises for bright Not TODAY, YESTERDAY. [... snipped ...] You pretty much nailed it, just like

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-27 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/8/27 Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Great, just great. So while considering all the apathy hang-vidia shows towards open-source, their crappy BLOBs, and they dropping support from older cards, and not releasing specs, etc. - you're still supporting them with your wallet. How do you expect

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-25 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: Since there are always swings around about best linux support which I didn't follow, what's the order of the day? Should go with nVidia, AMD or maybe Intel? Any specific card families/models? * Intel would be best: 1. Full OSS drivers on any

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-25 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 19:56 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: Since there are always swings around about best linux support which I didn't follow, what's the order of the day? Should go with nVidia, AMD or maybe Intel? Any specific card

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, * nVidia have: 1. The best proprietary Linux support ;-) 2. The worst FOSS support. 3. Someone else on this thread already detailed some of the problems it brings (updates, cards with quick End-Of-Life, etc.) Regarding your 3rd reason: Go pick Geforce 6XXX, 7XXX,

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-25 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Omer Zak wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 19:56 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: Since there are always swings around about best linux support which I didn't follow, what's the order of the day? Should go with nVidia, AMD

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-25 Thread Omer Zak
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 00:16 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Omer Zak wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 19:56 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: Since there are always swings around about best linux support which I didn't follow,

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-25 Thread Oron Peled
On Tuesday, 26 בAugust 2008, Omer Zak wrote: Plans of mice and men always change. ATI might fold 8 months from now, or be taken over by nVidia and have its product lines discontinued, or switch to solar powered 3D holographic displays. Omer, you somehow miss my point. I'm not talking about

Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-24 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, My boss bought second-hand extra monitors for all of us and I now need to buy graphics cards which can support dual-head for Debian/Ubuntu (and Windows XP and Vista). Since there are always swings around about best linux support which I didn't follow, what's the order of the day? Should

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-24 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, I'll go with NVidia if you don't care about open source drivers. They have excellent support in dual screen support. Intel... not very good support. good drivers, but I had my share of a garbage cursor on the 2nd screen. ATI/AMD - Pretty good but PRAY that your card is supported in their

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-24 Thread Omer Zak
In my PC I have two nVidia GeForce FX 5200 video cards. One with AGP form factor, and the other - with PCI form factor. This was the cheapest way to add a second display to my PC, and worked because my PC had unused PCI slots. Software: Debian Etch, with Xorg version 7.1.0-19. The driver being

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 25 August 2008, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I'll go with NVidia if you don't care about open source drivers. I would recommend against Nvidia: http://www.petitiononline.com/nvfoss/ They are completely apathetic towards open-source and Linux, and I have encountered (or heard of

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-24 Thread Moshe Gorohovsky
Hi, I had bought ATI Sapphire HD 2400 PRO for a developer workstation. The card was in mass sales two months ago. The card is working perfect with Debian lenny - July 2008 and with Knoppix 5.3.1. Graphics display and video processing seems fine with xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd video driver. -

Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?

2008-08-24 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 02:06 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I'll go with NVidia if you don't care about open source drivers. They have excellent support in dual screen support. Intel... not very good support. good drivers, but I had my share of a garbage cursor on the 2nd screen. ATI/AMD -