On 10/30/18 2:40 AM, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote:
Hi ToddandMargo,
I don't want to get into a political argument, just point out to a
couple of things:
First: Venezuela is not socialist. Their government claimed to be, but
they weren't, they aren't and they won't be.
They are trying to be and the result is what is expected. That you
do not like the outcome, does not make them any less socialist.
Good Socialists only exist on paper. They have NEVER been able to
implement it.
Second: Nazis and Soviets weren't the same, but you seem to put them in
the same box. Except in the mass murdering and pervasive propaganda.
> But those are general features of totalitarian governments. Just to
> make it clearer, Nazis were extreme right and Soviets were
> extreme left.
Actually they are two sides of the same coin.
National Socialist (Nazi) is based on the teachings of Karl Marx.
“National socialism derives from each of two camps the
pure idea that characterises it: National resolution from
bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the
teaching of Marxism.” -- Hitler, [January, 1934] Schoenbaum, p.57
The Nazis are FLAMING LEFTISTS, not right wingers. They only became
Right Wingers when General Patton's rolled into the concentration
camps and the press arrives with him and those horrible pictures
where presented to the world. And the Left was extremely embarrassed.
Calling them right wingers is the twist of the propagandists tongue.
I can't wait to hear the Soviets being called Right wingers when
Russia FINALLY comes to grips with the Soviet terror and details
start pouring out.
Think it through. The Right believes in limited government
and the rights of the individual. The Left believes in the
supremacy of the state over the individual. The Nazis
lived and acted like socialists. It was massive government
and no rights to the individual.
Both are the extreme Left and tragic example of what
socialism devolved into.
I know folks that have lived under both the Nazis and the Soviets.
They stated to me that only difference was the language they spoke.
Third: Communism and Socialism are not the same.
They are variations of the same poison. Socialism never
worked anywhere it is tried. It requires the force of the
barrel of a gun to get A to give up the fruits of his labors
to B. And A will only do it once and become B to protect
himself. This is why Socialism always results in poverty
and despotism.
The argument that failed Socialists are not real Socialist
or are Right Wingers and that you should keep trying to repeat
what does not work over and over and over has is is still
having tragic consequences on humanity. Again, Venezuela is
a tragic example of what doesn't work being forced down the
throats of others. "Oh they were not 'real' socialists" because
to did not work out they way it was laid out on paper.
It is time for us to all learn from history and not relive
it. 200 million souls IS ENOUGH.
The alternative is the Free Market, where you are forced to
take care of your customer to meet your own needs. And yes,
it is not perfect. Folks do cheat all the time. Microsoft
for example.
So here is a thought. Use the legitimate power of government
to protect one citizen from another and force the free market
down the throats of the cheaters. M$ should have been broken
up into several companies. Beats the hell out of poverty and
tyranny.
I hope Fedora makes it through the IBM purchase. I am a
YUGE fan of Fedora.
Kind regards,
Silvia
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