>>>>> "dd" == Dennis Donohue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
dd> My favorite Surgeon track is definitely "La Real", off of his dd> label counterbalance (CB02). I love what Tony is doing dd> recently, the counterbalance stuff is great. I've heard a lot dd> of coments on this list about how he, (and other people dd> playing similar music - dubbed "boom-boom-boom") have no dd> "groove" or "funk" to them. I would have to dissagree. To dd> me, this is the stuff that gives me that rush of energy. This dd> is what gives me inspiration to dance. At one point I'd written Surgeon off as someone whose only talent was making derivative copies of _Waveform Transmissions, v1_-era Jeff Mills. I really liked "Badger Bite" and "Magneze" but was disappointed by how distorted and repetitive _Communications_ and _basictonalvocabulary_ were. So I set his stuff aside for a while. Eventually, I heard his remix of Mogwai's "Fear Satan", which was all shimmering ambient drones and chimes and absolutely unlike anything else I've heard by him. It's beautiful. It's certainly better than anything Mogwai have done on their own. Last year, on a whim, I picked up _Force + Form_ and was absolutely blown away. Techno's history is littered with concept albums, but for whatever reason, _Force + Form_ works far better for me than almost all of them (with the possible exception of Plastikman's _Consumed_). The album is a totally coherent musical statement and has absolutely pristine production, and is the best mixture of dance and head music I've heard in a long time. The music is complex enough to be involving, but simple enough to be completely propulsive and danceable. In fact, that album (oddly enough) is what rejuvenated my interest in techno and got me to rejoin this list after a several year absence. And I'm totally jonesing to hear some folks in SF play that sort of complicated, polyrhythmic minimalism on a loud sound system. dd> I think, if you are going to compile a list of music like this dd> that is influential, you would have to include Adam Beyer and dd> Marco Carola (at least), if not Gaetek, Christian Smith and dd> joel mull. I agree that they've been influential, but I'd disagree if you were to argue that that's a good thing. Those folks were large part what pushed me away from techno. The whole Scandinavian banging sound was too raw for me; what I like about Surgeon is how pristine his recent material sounds (and his basslines _do_ have soul, if you pay attention to them). If it's going to be raw, it needs extra soul -- something Jeff Mills and Mad Mike understand very well, but the folks on Primate don't (in my opinion, natch). The folks I have clumped into Surgeon's constellation include James Ruskin, and Oliver Ho. All started from roughly the same point (unvarnished love for Mills' and Young's variety of uncompromising minimalism) and all of them have developed a more intricate, tribal sound over the past few years. Sometimes it gets difficult to tell Ruskin and Surgeon apart (on record; I've never seen either of them DJ), which is sort of a problem for me, but I'm not sure why, because I really love the music. Along those lines, on another whim I picked up Karl O'Connor and Peter Sutton's _Against Nature_ on Tresor recently, and its much the same as the aforementioned and is also really, really good. So I guess I have to add Regis and Female (which means we now have the entire Downwards roster here, doesn't it?) to the list of folks who are doing interesting things in this vein. It's much less harsh and distorted than the old Regis and Female stuff, and I'd almost be willing to bet money that Surgeon lent a hand in the studio during the making of this. Most of it is pretty banging (the Tresor site wants us to believe that it's "industrial", but 30 second chunks of found sound do not an industrial record make), but "Under Skin" is the sort of wrenchingly pretty instrumental interlude that wouldn't be out of place on a Derrick May or Jeff Mills record. I should see if Harald is interested in updating his Tresor discography. They've been putting out the goods recently. Does anyone here have any opinions on Tobias Schmidt's _Dark of Heartness_? ob313: Only three years late, I finally picked up the Derrick May _Innovator_ comp today. It's really, really nice to have all those self-evidently seminal tracks in one place. :) I have no idea why it took me so long. Forrest . . . the self-reflecting image of a narcotized mind . . . ozymandias G desiderata [EMAIL PROTECTED] desperate, deathless (415)558-9064 http://www.aoaioxxysz.com/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ::