Apologies I meant *Klaas* Jan. I should know how to spell it by now. Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:21 PM
To: 'Placid'; Marsel van der Wielen
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Subject: RE: (313) DJ Agents / Agencies

LOL.

I agree partly with Klass Jan.

[Many] booking agents are evil! :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Placid [mailto:pla...@acid-house.net]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 3:21 PM
To: Marsel van der Wielen
Cc: 313 Mailinglist List
Subject: Re: (313) DJ Agents / Agencies

thanks for the input guys...

Ill just keep doing what I doing..i think....  seems to be ok so far.....

p
On 5 Mar 2010, at 14:02, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:

>
> like every where there are lot of idiots, semi-profs and profs around, 
> including bookings agencies.
>
> i think you only need a booking agency, if already have several lot of
> gigs & requests and need someone to arrange all booking requests for you.
> not to other way around - they won't give you a lot of more gigs or
> some
>
> regarding finance
> normally a booking agency charges 15% of your fee on top to the promotor/club 
> who books you.
> so 500 fee for you, means booking agency charges 75 for himself.
> so a club pays 575 in total
>
> whether the agent does all your gigs exclusive is up to you you can do
> worldwide exclusive sometimes they do by continent or country (like
> booker A is UK, booker B rest of Europe) but other deejays have two
> agencies, both working non-exclusive for whole Europe
>
> but as said before, don't expect (too much) an agency to generate more
> gigs for you
>
>
> Op 5-3-2010 9:31, Klaas-Jan Jongsma schreef:
>> Well i am a producer and in the almost 20 years i am making music, i came to 
>> the following conclusion:
>>
>> Booking agencies are evil.
>>
>> I tried to avoid them as much as i could, all the times i had to deal with 
>> them i ended arranging stuff myself because they just did it wrong or flat 
>> out forgot about it. I know that a couple of high profile artists always 
>> managed to live without them. I personally just cant handle them i find them 
>> a waste of money or resources.
>>
>>
>> On 3 mrt 2010, at 23:24, Frank Glazer wrote:
>>
>>> i'd be interested in this kind of info too.  it's rough out there
>>> for a (non-producing) dj
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Placid <pla...@acid-house.net> wrote:
>>>> Good Evening List
>>>>
>>>> Suppose one wanted to raise ones profile a bit and possibly do a few more 
>>>> gigs in slightly more exotic locations around our continent.....
>>>>
>>>> Whats the deal with agents / agencies.
>>>>
>>>> Having perused the www for a bit, my conclusions are that there are alot 
>>>> of 'DJ' agencies set up for bedroom dj's in macclesfield who want their 
>>>> own residency in eyebeefa, or sign up for 200 quid and you're guaranteed a 
>>>> slot at Fernando's on a Friday night.
>>>>
>>>> Is it a case of they'll find you when they think you are a viable option 
>>>> or ?
>>>>
>>>> Do they have an exclusive right on all your gigs ?
>>>>
>>>> I know a couple of people with them and they take a cut when they get you 
>>>> a booking.  That seems fair enough to me but no other fees take place.. do 
>>>> they.
>>>>
>>>> Just mulling things over.....as I'm sure there are agents and artists with 
>>>> some helpful input on here.
>>>>
>>>> P
>>>>
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>>>
>>> frank
>>>
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