I agree, that's why I mentioned "sustainable."

I wasn't trying to criticize UR, but just looking at the facts that markets
change and you have to make enough so that folks can eat.
And I have to solve this problem too, because I'm a musician myself in the
current market.

~David

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:34 PM Fred Heutte <ph...@sunlightdata.com> wrote:

> There is a basic misunderstanding here.  Getting paid enough to
> cover the bills and have a reasonable life is important.
>
> Making as much money as possible is not the purpose.
>
> Detroit techno is all about retaining that difference.
>
> Twenty years ago, Sony Japan issued its crappy unauthorized and
> uncompensated remake of Jaguar.  We all understood what that
> represented, and UR made the right choice.
>
> Detroit techno is far more than just UR (and it's also true that
> "the D in Detroit stands for Drama").  But also remember, leadership
> is shown by action, not just words.
>
> fh
>
>
> -----------------
> >Fred,
> >
> >I don't scorn UR they are my heroes.
> >I just WANT THEM TO MAKE MORE MONEY!!!
> >I'm being realistic about how well the business model is doing.
> >You can't solve a problem by pretending it doesn't exist.
> >Making money is a problem for musicians right now--not just UR, but
> changes
> >in music as a whole might be hitting their business model hard.
> >The move from streaming to owning hurts some underground business models.
> >This is just reality.
> >
> >Likewise, yes, you are right, it's amazing that an email list from 1994
> >exists at all.
> >But be honest, the list today is nothing like what it was in its prime.
> >
> >Anyway, you are missing the point. As a musician, I care about the music
> >and the community around music.
> >My job is to act to help the community grow in positive ways, and make
> kick
> >ass music.
> >I'm trying to do that within the reality of 2018, and streaming.
> >I have no interest in CRITIQUING shit out of the past. I only care about
> >finding ways to do shit that work, now.
> >And that includes Submerge being able to sell records.
> >I want them to succeed and I want to develop resources to help all local
> >community initiatives and cooperatives and grassroots cultural efforts to
> >succeed. But that requires strategy and actual new ideas.
> >
> >Traditions are built over generations, but something I learned as a jazz
> >musician, is that each generation is responsible for moving the music
> >forward, and each individual. Not only that, we inherent a responsibility
> >as caretakers when we become participants within a tradition. I'm
> >interested in how I can get better at doing my job as a participant in
> >three living musical traditions, jazz, classical, and techno. You
> >participate in the tradition, FYI, by working with people in the tradition
> >and gaining their blessing, not just be declaring yourself to be a member.
> >I played with Detroit drummer Djallo Djakate's group, and recorded
> >keyboards with Alton Miller (it's supposed to come out on a Sound
> Signature
> >album eventually), so I'm actively involved with Detroit musicians
> recently
> >and have more projects in the works. So I have a direct stake in all this.
> >
> >I'm starting a record label, so I need to know, for instance, if I put out
> >a record by a talented Detroit cat, how can I help him sell more records?
> >And if people won't buy records, how can I get my artists paid???
> >
> >~David
> >
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:34 AM Fred Heutte <ph...@sunlightdata.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> For those who haven't seen it:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2017/06/drexciya-infinite-journey-to-inner-space
> >>
> >> fh
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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