"well, it Moby endorses it then it must be good enough
for me to buy." By allowing them to place their name and logo all over his
tours, etc.  he does endorse them... regardless of what he may do with the
money afterward."

i think meks hit the nail on the head here...people see the logos - they
dont see how he spends the cash. and i havn't exactly seen him standing up
as an anti-car spokesman - i'm sure if he did then those lucrative contracts
might just pass him by....


----- Original Message -----
From: "M Elliot-Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [313] about moby and his corporate money he receives...


> "it upholds his cleancut image."
>
> Interesting choice of words...
> I understand what you are trying to say but it's hypocritical of him to
take
> their money in the first place. Moby may think of it as a "Robin Hood"
sort
> of gesture/action but how many people who attend his shows will look at
the
> sponsor and think, "well, it Moby endorses it then it must be good enough
> for me to buy." By allowing them to place their name and logo all over his
> tours, etc.  he does endorse them... regardless of what he may do with the
> money afterward. You see, I think in the long run the car companies and
> others win because he gives a one time contribution to this or that cause
> but his fans continue to think that this or that product is good because
> they saw it at a Moby concert or advert. You're right when you say it's
> clever... he gets the money to tour (so he can sell more records later)
and
> then takes it and gives it (not all of it I'm sure, his record company and
> vendors are going to want some) to a charity and says "see what a sneeky
> fella I am."
> I don't and won't buy it.
>
> MEK
>
>
>
> >From: Nick Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 313@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [313] about moby and his corporate money he receives...
> >Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:45:49 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >
> >--- tim maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> >hmmmm..interesting, but can he reverse what he's
> > > done by becomming (in
> > > effect) an advocate for the car company he's worked
> > > for? wouldn't it be
> > > easier to just tell them to f*** off in the first
> > > place? and then maybe,
> > > make a big deal out of doing that, thus hopefully
> > > heightening awareness of
> > > the cause among his millions of fans?
> >
> >Nobody would get any money in that case... Those who
> >deserve it or those who don't. The way he's going is
> >clever, someone benefits and it upholds his cleancut
> >image.
> >
> >Later,
> >Nick:)
> >
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