what about starting a direct debate - the meaning of "underground" 2002 ?
and what this so often used word means to people here ? - and now again a bit of drifting - I think the fashion statement also was interesting to the underground-question in general, because it´s true that most music "categorys" connected with youth-movements also were connected to specific youth-fashion-rituals (the techno-movement in europe was also connected with certain fashion styles) and many culturez include the aspects of decoration, presenting sexuality, beauty, beauty-resistance, body politix, body moves, dancing styles ... - participation and connecting the full range of communication aspects... mixed with the nightlife aspects Though I also do think, that many conclusionz of "pop"-analyziz based on the observation of a short decade in history (from 50ies to 90ies) are not as timeless, as they pretend to be and things have changed a lot "loss of innocence" - as we live in a time were many people in the "civilized world" can get almost any "image" or style home on the computer with a simple mouseclick - this is the reason why for example the senile glamourizing of the uncoded neo-80ies-nu-wave-style is yawn galore to me (most of it is obvioulsy created on the background of too lazy copied strategies of pop and pop-models (mirror-images) for selling more records) I think this level of "cleverness" can hardly feed any movement (underground or whatever) with substance - blub, sorry - it´s late and it´s in english and where was the 313-link ? ohem: Underground Resistance ? yes - what means underground to you ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]