I was thinking... Detroit could capitalise on that Eminem song if they wanted to. Someone should do a techno answer record calling the shots on that Moby diss, which turns into a techno diss by default, clarifying that stuff, just knock it out, put it on the Internet, circulate some vinyls. A simple techno/electro record, catchy, with a rhyme. It would create a buzz and everybody would say, 'Hey, what's this underground techno thing?' Also people should send some CDs to Vibe, The Source, etc with a sticker "Detroit techno - too cool, too underground, for that muthaf*cker Eminem" or buy some pillows from the mall, some black silk pillow slips for them, tie a lovely CD like, say Stacey's Tomorrow, Derrick's Innovator, whatever, with a black ribbon and a red rose or something and attach a note, "If y'all gonna sleep on Detroit techno, do it in style." Bombard them with that stuff so they cannot ignore it. I think Mike Banks was onto something with the way he handled the Jaguar affair, basically creating all this press by subverting the media machine... You could take that further. I'm not sure it would work, but, there's some potential...
---------- >From: "Mike Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [313] demf website >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 5:06 PM > > It also helps that he is one of the hardest workers in Detroit. > > From my dealings with the people who have "made it" or whatever you want to > call it, the thing that separates all of them is that they work very hard. > Talent will only take you so far, it all comes down to how hard you work at > it. > > There are a lot of people who want to sit around, smoke dope, not return > phone calls and not work in the studio who think race is the reason they are > not blowing up. I do not care what color your skin is, your work ethic > determines where you end up. Hawtin sells more records than me for a reason, > he workers harder and smarter than I do. > > Where Kharris is coming from, and where I agree with her, it that his image > is much easier to market than say Juan Atkins. It is much easier for an A&R > or marketing exec to comprehend you and your weird science fiction music > when you are a skinny white dude who wears funny glasses and jump suits. The > larger music industry, in which Hawtin has an advantage, cannot comprehend > and sell an image of a middle aged black dude from Detroit making weird > electronic music from outer space. The only thing black they know how to > sell is rap music and sex jams, period. > > This is where race comes into it. Because of Hawtin's skin color, he can > play on stereotypes that black artists do not have access to. In the small > indie-dance scene, I do not think color is as big of an issue. In the larger > industry, where real money is made and where culture at large is > manufactured, black artists who do not play off of black stereotypes do not > get signed. Any good Detroit Techno artist is at odds with those racial > stereotypes in the US music industry, and therefore cannot get ahead. Black > people don't make sci-fi music, they make songs about sex, greed, and > violence(unless they are conscious brothers, and then they make typical > conscious brother music...) > > All of that being said, I think that if a lot of the black dudes who cry > race worked as hard and were as talented as Hawtin, they would be selling a > hell of a lot more records. The glass ceiling is definitely there, but most > dudes will never hit it because they do not have what it takes to get that > far. Juan is a perfect example of somebody who has hit that ceiling. Jeff > Mills has hit that ceiling. To avoid that ceiling Carl Craig is referencing > jazz and R&B. Race had nothing to do with why some people have not gotten as > far Mr. Mills, Mr. Craig, or Mr. Atkins. I do not care what color you are, > if you have talent and tenacity, you will get ahead in this business. > > Take care, > mt > >>From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "'neon tse tse'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> >>Subject: RE: [313] demf website >>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:21:19 -0700 >> >>i'll answer this one! >> >> >> > ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else >>in detroit. >> >> very interesting - >> >> how do you know that ? >> >> what are your facts, making you say this ? >> >>He is the only Detroit artist that I have seen lately that has had an ad in >>a magazine from Detroit lately. DJT-1000 had an ad for "The Last DJ on >>Earth" CD, but it only took up a quarter of the page from top to bottom. >>Richie Hawting on the other hand has thrown his picture out and made it >>recognizable with full page ads, huge posters, and stickers handed out all >>over the place. He has made the m_nus symbol almost as recognizable as his >>face. >> >>there is no point in arguing it...he just knows how to market himself. he >>isn't ge greatest ever....but he is damn good. >> >>Peace >> >> >>Jeff >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: neon tse tse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 5:02 PM >> > To: Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org >> > Subject: Re: [313] demf website >> > >> > am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> > >> > > ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in >> > detroit. >> > >> > very interesting - >> > >> > how do you know that ? >> > >> > what are your facts, making you say this ? >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
